we don't. Bob MacKenzie was suggesting it. I don't see DP moving anywhere, nor do I see Luongo going anywhere. I wouldn't expect an asset back for DP's contract nor Luongo's. Both should be buy outs. The funny thing is that there will be no Islanders fans disappointed or surprised DP couldn't be traded and is bought out, but the vast majority of Canuck fans will be bitterly disappointed since most of them bought into what Gillis announced as his expected return.

My comments all along have been, we do not want Luongo on that contract. If he was traded to the Isles the Canucks would have to take back DP to buy him out and that because of Luongo's contract we do not want to give up an asset. Both of these guys are posterchildren for the new CBA and neither should be looked at as anything of value under their current contracts.

Luongo could be quite valuable if he was bought out, DP would be out of hockey if he was bought out.

-1 and -2 still is less than nothing.
- Isles_since_6

To bad you rambled on. This is location material. Sadly its just a troll post though, because its not possible to be that stupid and to remember to keep breathing

1) Bob MacKenzie
2) Starter in Bridgeport
3) he didnt start this Bobby Mac did
4) True but for the vanc fans to assume it would be a treasure trove of riches is silly
5)Im pretty sure he sees it

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

1 didnt see...just repost.....
2 AHL
3 ok true
4 only van trolls would say such
5 i guess you would know

I don't think Tanev will ever offer the point production that Yandle does.
- golfingsince

I can't see him scoring that much either...... but he may be more reliable defensively??? Not sure i don't watch Yandle except Van games.

Based on his vision/skating/passing & hockey IQ, I think his offensive potential is only limited by the opportunity/role he's given by the next staff. It's not like Yandle has anything skillset wise that Tanev doesn't. The difference between their games is experience, confidence & opportunity.
- DrChristianTroy

Tanev's shot sucks. Yandle has been a scorer wherever he has gone. 59 pts in the NHL is plenty for a Dman. I would be pleasantly surprised if Tanev ever went over 30.

Tanev's shot sucks. Yandle has been a scorer wherever he has gone. 59 pts in the NHL is plenty for a Dman. I would be pleasantly surprised if Tanev ever went over 30.
- golfingsince

Best first pass on the team that is 30pts guaranteed with a top 4 D gig and he will be top 4.

Best first pass on the team that is 30pts guaranteed with a top 4 D gig and he will be top 4.
- thundachunk

He won't get the PP time. He had 7 pts in 38 games this year, so even if you triple that amount to compensate for additional ice time he's still a ways from 30.

Tanev's shot sucks. Yandle has been a scorer wherever he has gone. 59 pts in the NHL is plenty for a Dman. I would be pleasantly surprised if Tanev ever went over 30.
- golfingsince

If sh!tty shots had anything to do with putting up points, the Sedins wouldnt be leading scorers on this team.

I think that's a steal for Avs. That trade makes them a playoff team instantly. It makes Buffalo a better team in 2017.
- bloatedmosquito

You know what they say about draft picks, value peaks just before the draft. To me, it would be a crazy move on the Sabres part. I really like Nate and think he'll be an all-star, and if Jones turns into a Norris calibre D-man than he's the pick.

However, Grigs is a top 10 pick that oozes skill. The pick at #8 could be a solid NHL player for 10-15 years, and who knows what pick they'll end up with next year? It could be a lottery winner FFS. Also, isn't Stasny set to become a UFA after next season? No chance in hell i'd make that trade.

If sh!tty shots had anything to do with putting up points, the Sedins would be (frank)ed.
- DrChristianTroy

Danny can snipe, Hank not so much. As for Tanev's shot %, that's because his shots never reach the net. I really like Tanev, especially his decision making and outlet pass. I just don't think he'll even come close to Yandle's 0.5 PPG production. If i had to bet on one of our young defenders i'd put my money on Corrado outscoring him.

As another poster said, I think he can be better defensively than Yandle but the point production is a reach. Also, Hank and Danny get so many points from in close. Somewhere Tanev won't be very often.

It's a good thing you're not the GM, the Isles would have been sold and moved to Hamilton by now.
- 1970vintage

It's an even better thing you're not their gm

So a few sabres fans are disscussing

To Buff

Stastny
1st overall

To A vs

Myers
Grigorenko
Miller
Buffalo 1st this yr and next

That's a pretty good offer
- Bieksa#3

I think that's a little too much for COL to receive. Keep in mind Stastny's getting paid 6.6M and is one year away from UFA. I'd at least take out one of BUF's 1sts

To bad you rambled on. This is location material. Sadly its just a troll post though, because its not possible to be that stupid and to remember to keep breathing
- Bieksa#3

hmm, facts to back it up? Point out something incorrect, a specific point. Let's make sure we get you on record for when Luongo's future is actually decided.

I have yet to see any kind of actual argument or counter point from you in the last two threads. Just one liners that show absolutely no thought, have no facts, have no opinions other than "troll" or "stupid"

Let's hear it.

out of curiosity, any of you canuck fans here also post on:

forum.canucks.com

because this is where these beauties came from

What about Strome and Reinhart for Lou



Luongo for 1st (15th), 2nd and Neiderreiter. Essentially, they're giving up picks since Nino doesn't seem to wanna play there.



Luongo for Nino + 1st.

They want to dump Dipietro to the canucks? then add one of strome/reinhart/okposo/bailey



I would do Lu for Dipietro, Niderreiter and Brock Nelson. That would give us a big centre and a talented winger. With the Islanders, anything is possible. Didn't the Islanders have some crazy offer on the table last year at the draft?
This would show us how bad the ownership in Vancouver wants to win. That's a big chunk of money to pay to Dippietro for doing nothing for us.



VAN: Kyle Okposo, Brock Nelson, Nino Niederreiter, Scott Mayfield, Rick DiPietro (Compliance Buyout), 1st (2013)
NYI: Roberto Luongo, Alex Edler, Alex Burrows




To Vancouver:
Rick DiPietro
Nino Niederreiter
Rights to Mark Streit
Brock Nelson

To NY Islanders:
Roberto Luongo
Alexander Edler
Conditional 4th round pick- 2014- Pending Mark Streit re-signing





I'll give this a try:

To Vancouver: Nino Niederreiter, Travis Hamonic, 2013 1st, Rick DiPietro

To NY Islanders: Roberto Luongo, David Booth

If necessary throw our first in



bobby luo booth tanev 4rd rounder for nino niederreiter, travis hamonic and rick depietro 2nd rounder done deal nyi gets a solid allstar goalie and some scoring punch and rid of depietro we obtain a young left winger sniper and a great future right handed top four 4 and a possibly ok 2nd round prospect
buy out option on rick depietro will be painfull but owner raised ticket prices in playoffs and this season so the rich guy im sure can afford it


Now on that thread, now THAT is where I would throw up a troll post, because none of them have a (frank)ing clue what Luongo's actual market value is with that contract. While some of you here are reasonable, there are a few who have unrealistic expectations. Those guys..are batpoop insane.

out of curiosity, any of you canuck fans here also post on:

forum.canucks.com

because this is where these beauties came from

What about Strome and Reinhart for Lou



Luongo for 1st (15th), 2nd and Neiderreiter. Essentially, they're giving up picks since Nino doesn't seem to wanna play there.



Luongo for Nino + 1st.

They want to dump Dipietro to the canucks? then add one of strome/reinhart/okposo/bailey



I would do Lu for Dipietro, Niderreiter and Brock Nelson. That would give us a big centre and a talented winger. With the Islanders, anything is possible. Didn't the Islanders have some crazy offer on the table last year at the draft?
This would show us how bad the ownership in Vancouver wants to win. That's a big chunk of money to pay to Dippietro for doing nothing for us.



VAN: Kyle Okposo, Brock Nelson, Nino Niederreiter, Scott Mayfield, Rick DiPietro (Compliance Buyout), 1st (2013)
NYI: Roberto Luongo, Alex Edler, Alex Burrows




To Vancouver:
Rick DiPietro
Nino Niederreiter
Rights to Mark Streit
Brock Nelson

To NY Islanders:
Roberto Luongo
Alexander Edler
Conditional 4th round pick- 2014- Pending Mark Streit re-signing





I'll give this a try:

To Vancouver: Nino Niederreiter, Travis Hamonic, 2013 1st, Rick DiPietro

To NY Islanders: Roberto Luongo, David Booth

If necessary throw our first in



bobby luo booth tanev 4rd rounder for nino niederreiter, travis hamonic and rick depietro 2nd rounder done deal nyi gets a solid allstar goalie and some scoring punch and rid of depietro we obtain a young left winger sniper and a great future right handed top four 4 and a possibly ok 2nd round prospect
buy out option on rick depietro will be painfull but owner raised ticket prices in playoffs and this season so the rich guy im sure can afford it


Now on that thread, now THAT is where I would throw up a troll post, because none of them have a (frank)ing clue what Luongo's actual market value is with that contract. While some of you here are reasonable, there are a few who have unrealistic expectations. Those guys..are batpoop insane.
- Isles_since_6

Who cares?

Should we start taking the comments sections on TSN seriously?

I'd trade Schneider before I bought out Lu. I don't even think buying him out is an option.

Whos peoples fav pornstars?

not even a slight chance Ristolainen drops to 24. I'd be shocked if he dropped to 10
- TheNugeIsHuge

Huh?

I don't think Tanev will ever offer the point production that Yandle does.
- golfingsince

Agreed, but I hope he proves me wrong. IMO his upside is somewhat limited because he lacks a slap shot and isn't very physical.

Danny can snipe, Hank not so much. As for Tanev's shot %, that's because his shots never reach the net. I really like Tanev, especially his decision making and outlet pass. I just don't think he'll even come close to Yandle's 0.5 PPG production. If i had to bet on one of our young defenders i'd put my money on Corrado outscoring him.

As another poster said, I think he can be better defensively than Yandle but the point production is a reach. Also, Hank and Danny get so many points from in close. Somewhere Tanev won't be very often.
- golfingsince

We'll see... I think Tanev will put up numbers similar to Yandle's 3rd NHL season (4 goals, 26 assists, 30 points) this season... something will click, and he'll be a double digit goal, 40 assist guy in 2014/15.

His pass to Tanner Glass in the SCF (whiffed on an open net) is a pass I wouldn't expect to see from any other dman on our team (and very few in the league). With more opportunity, I think we'll see him making "wow" passes on the reg.

hmm, facts to back it up? Point out something incorrect, a specific point. Let's make sure we get you on record for when Luongo's future is actually decided.

I have yet to see any kind of actual argument or counter point from you in the last two threads. Just one liners that show absolutely no thought, have no facts, have no opinions other than "troll" or "stupid"

Let's hear it.
- Isles_since_6

Lets see. Lets says Nabby gets a modest 3 yr 12 mill deal. The next 3 yrs you pay your starting goalie 8.5 mill when you include Rocky D contract in Bridgeport. Assuming you pay a very low 4 mill for your starting goalie for the following 4 yrs. So that's over 70 mill for your starting goalie and RD for the next 8 yrs.
Luongo who is day and night better then Nabby. Would cost you around 40 mill. So The islanders save over 30 and have a huge upgrade in goaltending for the next 6 yrs. Toss in a starting goalie for the last 3 yrs at the 4 mill. Islanders save 20 mill and have a way better goalie for the next half decade.
Now how are the 2 contracts equally bad? If Snow was able to pull this off with the cost of Nino Niederieder he would be the smartest man in hockey

Lets see. Lets says Nabby gets a modest 3 yr 12 mill deal. The next 3 yrs you pay your starting goalie 8.5 mill when you include Rocky D contract in Bridgeport. Assuming you pay a very low 4 mill for your starting goalie for the following 4 yrs. So that's over 70 mill for your starting goalie and RD for the next 8 yrs.
Luongo who is day and night better then Nabby. Would cost you around 40 mill. So The islanders save over 30 and have a huge upgrade in goaltending for the next 6 yrs. Toss in a starting goalie for the last 3 yrs at the 4 mill. Islanders save 20 mill and have a way better goalie for the next half decade.
Now how are the 2 contracts equally bad? If Snow was able to pull this off with the cost of Nino Niederieder he would be the smartest man in hockey
- Bieksa#3

You just aren't able to see Luongo's worth nothing are you? We operate at the floor and are forced by the NHL to spend to that. We don't take contracts that pay out more than their cap hit (luongo's 6.7 mil salary compared to 5.3 cap hit) and we don't give up quality prospects who we'll love paying next to nothing on an entry level deal for them.

Luongo is going to be a buyout unless Gillis can repair that situation enough to be able to move Schneider. PS, at 9.3 mil cap hit for your goalies all year coming into an offseason where the cap drops, Gillis didn't think was a problem. We have 30 mil in cap space right now, I'm pretty sure Snow's okay with the situation.

Lets see. Lets says Nabby gets a modest 3 yr 12 mill deal. The next 3 yrs you pay your starting goalie 8.5 mill when you include Rocky D contract in Bridgeport. Assuming you pay a very low 4 mill for your starting goalie for the following 4 yrs. So that's over 70 mill for your starting goalie and RD for the next 8 yrs.
Luongo who is day and night better then Nabby. Would cost you around 40 mill. So The islanders save over 30 and have a huge upgrade in goaltending for the next 6 yrs. Toss in a starting goalie for the last 3 yrs at the 4 mill. Islanders save 20 mill and have a way better goalie for the next half decade.
Now how are the 2 contracts equally bad? If Snow was able to pull this off with the cost of Nino Niederieder he would be the smartest man in hockey
- Bieksa#3

You guys HAVE to get rid of Lou, we dont have to do anything but sign a FA goalie as a stop gap to one of our 3 prospects takes the job.

XxNYIxX

I wonder what Patrick Roy thinks of Lu.

We'll see... I think Tanev will put up numbers similar to Yandle's 3rd NHL season (4 goals, 26 assists, 30 points) this season... something will click, and he'll be a double digit goal, 40 assist guy in 2014/15.

His pass to Tanner Glass in the SCF (whiffed on an open net) is a pass I wouldn't expect to see from any other dman on our team (and very few in the league). With more opportunity, I think we'll see him making "wow" passes on the reg.
- DrChristianTroy

Edler used to make similar passes on a regular basis

Curtis Lazar. Id take if he's at 24. Canucks wouldn't be disappointed.