Gillis & his RESET! button...who else is going??....
- Canuckfan2006

Does it really matter? The only thing that is for sure, is that there HAS TO BE changes, because as is they will not fit under the cap.

It's a good thing you're not the GM, the Isles would have been sold and moved to Hamilton by now.
- 1970vintage

Yeah OK. Ratner and the Barclays center might have had a problem with that? You guys need to read up a little.

Which underlines the point, trades are no longer assets for assets, its a whole bunch of other garbage now.....another example: the Mike Ryder for Erik Cole trade......like wtf was that?
- mykokes

Snow is not Mike Milbury. Giving up a top five pick in Nino who looks like will be a top 6 pwr forward, Strome who is one of the best blue chip prospects in the league so you guys can have a smaller payout in DP so we can get Luongo(who I like) for a servicable 3-4 years and have to buy out in return? The one thing you guys don't get is we need DP's contract just to reach the floor. Our mission every year is to reach the floor. We will be somewhere around 10 million below the FLOOR! Why do you think we have Thomas signed and not playing/paying him? Get a grip guys.

Yeah OK. Ratner and the Barclays center might have had a problem with that? You guys need to read up a little.
- Cptmjl

I'm just saying for Snow to be able to get what amounts to a NPV of almost $30million off the books for a player that can't even get a start in the AHL is worth giving up a prospect that doesn't seem too happy with the current situation.

Snow is not Mike Milbury. Giving up a top five pick in Nino who looks like will be a top 6 pwr forward, Strome who is one of the best blue chip prospects in the league so you guys can have a smaller payout in DP so we can get Luongo(who I like) for a servicable 3-4 years and have to buy out in return? The one thing you guys don't get is we need DP's contract just to reach the floor. Our mission every year is to reach the floor. We will be somewhere around 10 million below the FLOOR! Why do you think we have Thomas signed and not playing/paying him? Get a grip guys.
- Cptmjl

"If the Canucks are going to take back Rick DiPietro for the purposes of buying out the very first profoundly dreadful contract of all these long-term messes, there had better be one helluva lot more coming back for Luongo than that Nino Niederreiter and a couple of second-round picks, if you are the Aquilinis. If it’s going to cost them that much money, you’ve got to do better than a guy who didn’t even look remotely close when he was in the league in 2011-12. (He was in the AHL for the 2012-13 season.) Granted, he was young and, yes, he did very well against good competition at the world championship this year. But if you’re plunking down that kind of cash, you want more than a gamble on another Euro forward, of which you have entirely too many. Surely there must be a better way to offload Luongo than that, if you look at it from just the ownership perspective. And after two years of one-and-done in the playoffs, that’s likely how they’ll look at it."

The G-Man knows what's up.

Snow is not Mike Milbury. Giving up a top five pick in Nino who looks like will be a top 6 pwr forward, Strome who is one of the best blue chip prospects in the league so you guys can have a smaller payout in DP so we can get Luongo(who I like) for a servicable 3-4 years and have to buy out in return? The one thing you guys don't get is we need DP's contract just to reach the floor. Our mission every year is to reach the floor. We will be somewhere around 10 million below the FLOOR! Why do you think we have Thomas signed and not playing/paying him? Get a grip guys.
- Cptmjl

Hmmm, what to say here, you picked the wrong poster to reply to?

Even the trade engine in EA Hockey is laughing at these proposals and that facking guy will accept just about anything

Even the trade engine in EA Hockey is laughing at these proposals and that facking guy will accept just about anything
- Vukota

I was a bit surprised to see Strome's name here. That's one helluva reach. Strome's going to be a great NHL player.The only reason I might see Nino's name in a Luongo trade is the whole Nino wanting out crap last year. But he's also developing like he should, and should be a solid top 6 player, at worse an Okposo, but thats like 5 years away before we know for certain. If he's involved, then I would think the deal is going to be a big one. I do think the Islanders are after luongo, I don't think the trade is going to involve Dipietro.

"If the Canucks are going to take back Rick DiPietro for the purposes of buying out the very first profoundly dreadful contract of all these long-term messes, there had better be one helluva lot more coming back for Luongo than that Nino Niederreiter and a couple of second-round picks, if you are the Aquilinis. If it’s going to cost them that much money, you’ve got to do better than a guy who didn’t even look remotely close when he was in the league in 2011-12. (He was in the AHL for the 2012-13 season.) Granted, he was young and, yes, he did very well against good competition at the world championship this year. But if you’re plunking down that kind of cash, you want more than a gamble on another Euro forward, of which you have entirely too many. Surely there must be a better way to offload Luongo than that, if you look at it from just the ownership perspective. And after two years of one-and-done in the playoffs, that’s likely how they’ll look at it."

The G-Man knows what's up.
- hankthetank

The reality is the Islanders need a young goalie who can grow with the rest of the young guys. If they were contending for a title next year then you could make a case for Luongo but the Isles are still a couple of years away from being legit contenders and they are not going to trade a blue chip prospect for a 33 yr old goalie with a hideous contract. They will most likely buyout DP this summer and be done with the last bad contract they have

The reality is the Islanders need a young goalie who can grow with the rest of the young guys. If they were contending for a title next year then you could make a case for Luongo but the Isles are still a couple of years away from being legit contenders and they are not going to trade a blue chip prospect for a 33 yr old goalie with a hideous contract. They will most likely buyout DP this summer and be done with the last bad contract they have
- Vukota

If you guys had Luongo, you might've gotten by the Pens. Goalies today don't really establish themselves as elite till they're 27, so even if you have a young goalie in the system, it'll be time before he makes his mark. I think Luongo makes sense for you guys, but at a decent price, certainly not for strome or nino.

I was a bit surprised to see Strome's name here. That's one helluva reach.
The only reason I might see Nino's name in a Luongo trade is the whole Nino wanting out crap last year. If he's involved, then I would think the deal is going to be a big one. I do think the Islanders are after luongo, I don't think the trade is going to involve Dipietro.
- mykokes

The whole Nino wanting out scenario has been so blown out of proportion its comical. If the Isles are still holding a grudge with Nino's agent for starting that BS then they will trade him for a younger player like himself not an aging player

The reality is the Islanders need a young goalie who can grow with the rest of the young guys. If they were contending for a title next year then you could make a case for Luongo but the Isles are still a couple of years away from being legit contenders and they are not going to trade a blue chip prospect for a 33 yr old goalie with a hideous contract. They will most likely buyout DP this summer and be done with the last bad contract they have
- Vukota

The Islanders are interested in Luongo. We know that. And the Canucks are interested in moving Luongo. The Islanders have been bleeding money for years. They were one good goalie away from knocking off the Penguins in the first round this year. I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Dipietro will be bought out by the Islanders and a new, young goalie will be signed to another fair sized contract by them.

The whole Nino wanting out scenario has been so blown out of proportion its comical. If the Isles are still holding a grudge with Nino's agent for starting that BS then they will trade him for a younger player like himself not an aging player
- Vukota

ie. like hodgson for kassian. I agree. They'd probably be better off just buying out dipi (since they have to pay him anyways), then try using him in a trade for Luongo.

If you guys had Luongo, you might've gotten by the Pens. Goalies today don't really establish themselves as elite till they're 27, so even if you have a young goalie in the system, it'll be time before he makes his mark. I think Luongo makes sense for you guys, but at a decent price, certainly not for strome or nino.
- mykokes

Of course they can use him but there is no way they are giving up a blue chip prospect for him. It will never happen. You can't just disregard that contract. Especially with a cost conscious team like the Isles. A team that has a bankroll like the Rangers or some of the other big spending teams might do it, but the Isles won't.

Of course they can use him but there is no way they are giving up a blue chip prospect for him. It will never happen. You can't just disregard that contract. Especially with a cost conscious team like the Isles. A team that has a bankroll like the Rangers or some of the other big spending teams might do it, but the Isles won't.
- Vukota

Instead they would rather buy out DP and then spend more money on another UFA goalie?

I was a bit surprised to see Strome's name here. That's one helluva reach.
The only reason I might see Nino's name in a Luongo trade is the whole Nino wanting out crap last year. If he's involved, then I would think the deal is going to be a big one. I do think the Islanders are after luongo, I don't think the trade is going to involve Dipietro.
- mykokes

Luongo makes a little bit of sense for the Islanders. In the short term his salary is actually higher than his cap hit, which is not what the Isles would be looking for. BUT, after five years, the $ salary drops considerably while maintaining a nice juicy cap hit. Now, who's to say that in five years the Isles won't be spending to the cap and that ends up working against them...

One interesting thing in favour of the Islanders is that if the "cap recapture" clause does in fact kick in as it is currently written, and Luongo retires after five years (when his actual salary dips) the Islanders would get a bonus $1.675m cap hit without having to pay any salary. If he doesn't retire, then they are paying $3.3, $1.6, $1 and $1 million for $5.33 cap hit the final four years. At this point its a win/win.

If the Islanders are truly considering bringing back Nabakov back for another year, who will be 38 by the start of the season, then Luongo at 34 isn't a bad risk IMO.

I doubt Snow would be willing to give up two high end prospects, but one and picks and/or other players on reasonable contracts could get it done if FA was willing to sink the $ into buying out RD.

I'm just saying for Snow to be able to get what amounts to a NPV of almost $30million off the books for a player that can't even get a start in the AHL is worth giving up a prospect that doesn't seem too happy with the current situation.
- 1970vintage

It was his agent. Nino has already stated he can't wait for camp to start and be a part of this team. If he is traded which of course is a possibility it's not going to be for Luongo. I think it's a hysterical that some of you guys turned your noses up to the idea of Nino, DP, + for Luongo. You guys can't be serious. You won't get close to that from anyone let alone Snow who is as cheap a GM as there is.

Of course they can use him but there is no way they are giving up a blue chip prospect for him. It will never happen. You can't just disregard that contract. Especially with a cost conscious team like the Isles. A team that has a bankroll like the Rangers or some of the other big spending teams might do it, but the Isles won't.
- Vukota

Preaching to the choir man. I do think they can use Luongo, and be able to afford him and his contract. There are other ways to unload dipietro.

"If the Canucks are going to take back Rick DiPietro for the purposes of buying out the very first profoundly dreadful contract of all these long-term messes, there had better be one helluva lot more coming back for Luongo than that Nino Niederreiter and a couple of second-round picks, if you are the Aquilinis. If it’s going to cost them that much money, you’ve got to do better than a guy who didn’t even look remotely close when he was in the league in 2011-12. (He was in the AHL for the 2012-13 season.) Granted, he was young and, yes, he did very well against good competition at the world championship this year. But if you’re plunking down that kind of cash, you want more than a gamble on another Euro forward, of which you have entirely too many. Surely there must be a better way to offload Luongo than that, if you look at it from just the ownership perspective. And after two years of one-and-done in the playoffs, that’s likely how they’ll look at it."

The G-Man knows what's up.
- hankthetank

Ok, keep going with this notion. Let me know how it all turns out

Instead they would rather buy out DP and then spend more money on another UFA goalie?
- hankthetank

Sure, why not?

The Islanders are interested in Luongo. We know that. And the Canucks are interested in moving Luongo. The Islanders have been bleeding money for years. They were one good goalie away from knocking off the Penguins in the first round this year. I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Dipietro will be bought out by the Islanders and a new, young goalie will be signed to another fair sized contract by them.
- hankthetank

DP will never play again for the Islanders. Even if that means finishing his career in the AHL. They have a couple of goalies in the system with potential granted they are a few years away but the isles will not bring in another stupid contract. Looks they finally learned their lesson with Yashin & DP. Luongo is good but not worth that contract. The days of the Isles going for a quick fix are over.

It was his agent. Nino has already stated he can't wait for camp to start and be a part of this team. If he is traded which of course is a possibility it's not going to be for Luongo. I think it's a hysterical that some of you guys turned your noses up to the idea of Nino, DP, + for Luongo. You guys can't be serious. You won't get close to that from anyone let alone Snow who is as cheap a GM as there is.
- Cptmjl

All GM's are stingy. The Canucks will be even more so than usual this offseason. Like the article said, Canucks ownership would want a lot more than a gamble on a european player who has shown nothing at the NHL level and a buy out in DP.

Instead they would rather buy out DP and then spend more money on another UFA goalie?
- hankthetank

Rather then trade for Luongo and in the process give up a blue chip prospect. Yes I believe they would

All GM's are stingy. The Canucks will be even more so than usual this offseason. Like the article said, Canucks ownership would want a lot more than a gamble on a european player who has shown nothing at the NHL level and a buy out in DP.
- hankthetank

THe Canucks did with Luongo what we did with McCabe. It might not end as well as you hope. Might being the key word. Not looking to debate, but I think somewhere in the middle between you and the Islanders fans is where this will all end up.

The Islanders are interested in Luongo. We know that. And the Canucks are interested in moving Luongo. The Islanders have been bleeding money for years. They were one good goalie away from knocking off the Penguins in the first round this year. I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Dipietro will be bought out by the Islanders and a new, young goalie will be signed to another fair sized contract by them.
- hankthetank

Again, we are below the floor. So far below the floor we are going to have trouble reaching it which we do every year. Stop