think he's ready for a look at the top?

i like carrick's game a lot too.. sometimes i wonder about him is can he keep his scrappyness at bay.. from the few games i saw with him late in the year he looks like a bit of a wild card.. might go off at the wrong time type thing... but thats the type of thing age will teach

and i say late in the year because i dont remember him being with the marlies to start the year... ECHL i think? not certain
- Dozzer

He was in the ECHL until the NHL season started, then he was brought up and worked his way into the lineup, should be a full time Marlie next season.

kadri, Gardiner and the 21st pick for #1 - too much?

kadri, Gardiner and the 21st pick for #1 - too much?
- senstroll

For who?

kadri, Gardiner and the 21st pick for #1 - too much?
- senstroll

yes too much

He was in the ECHL until the NHL season started, then he was brought up and worked his way into the lineup, should be a full time Marlie next season.
- LeafMan

yeah.. one of the guys who saw ice time once the NHL season got going

be interesting to watch him for a full year

leafs had some of their prospects have very very good seasons, im hoping some of these guys continue to light it up and end up being gem's in the rough, so to say..

kadri, Gardiner and the 21st pick for #1 - too much?
- senstroll

Everyone thinks these draft picks are 100 point centres, reality is, very few crack 70 to 80 points.

For who?
- Fakepartofme

sorry #1 pick

Everyone thinks these draft picks are 100 point centres, reality is, very few crack 70 to 80 points.
- LeafMan

NO WAY LM!!! EVERY YEAR IS 2003!!!!

kadri, Gardiner and the 21st pick for #1 - too much?
- senstroll

Yes ... But I'd do Gardiner 21st pick and our 2nd rounder in 2014

NO WAY LM!!! EVERY YEAR IS 2003!!!!




- Dozzer

Only 1 100 point player from 2003

Everyone thinks these draft picks are 100 point centres, reality is, very few crack 70 to 80 points.
- LeafMan

Since 2000..these have been the first Centers taken in the top 5

Spezza, Staal, Malkin, Crosby, staal, Turris, Stamkos, Tavares, Seguin, Hopkins, Galchenyuk


with the exception of 2007 with the weakest draft ever probably...I might take my chances. and the year J. Staal went #2, Toews went #3

I think Mackinnon is pretty much cant miss in a strong draft

pipe dreams but worth discussing

kadri, Gardiner and the 21st pick for #1 - too much?
- senstroll

If my scouts tell me MacKinnon is anything close to a Tavares, Stamkos, Toews type of franchise guy - then I press the go button without hesitation.

Suicide Hotline,,,, Hold Please.
- bixll

Just make sure you don't have "Jump" by Van Halen playing while he's on hold.

Morning, my Leafy friends.

Only 1 100 point player from 2003
- AdamFrench

I have a much stricter criteria on what is called a franchise player, 70 to 80 points is elite not a franchise player.

Slightly different for defenseman but I only think there is a couple of those in the league.

If my scouts tell me MacKinnon is anything close to a Tavares, Stamkos, Toews type of franchise guy - then I press the go button without hesitation.
- The Law

I think it's definitely up for consideration if you think Rielly can replace Gardiner.

If my scouts tell me MacKinnon is anything close to a Tavares, Stamkos, Toews type of franchise guy - then I press the go button without hesitation.
- The Law

I have to agree. Maybe Col wants Jones and the deal can be made with #2 or #3 depending on the order they go

Only 1 100 point player from 2003
- AdamFrench

80 is the new 100.

80 is the new 100.
- The Law

I think we see now a 100 point Center is not the end all. a 70-80 point Toews or Tavares is ok

What's your dollar and years cap on Bozak?
- The Law

Three year @ 4 million

kadri, Gardiner and the 21st pick for #1 - too much?
- senstroll

Too much.

I'm not opposed to the idea - I don't think anyone is untouchable.

But Kadri looks to be a real keeper.

Gardiner is a wildcard, but I really like what he was doing in the playoffs.

And then you give up the 21st pick?

That's just a little too much, imho.

Too much.

I'm not opposed to the idea - I don't think anyone is untouchable.

But Kadri looks to be a real keeper.

Gardiner is a wildcard, but I really like what he was doing in the playoffs.

And then you give up the 21st pick?

That's just a little too much, imho.
- Atomic Wedgie

As much as I would love to have McKinnon, that would send the wrong message.

Three year @ 4 million
- honesthockey

To me, it's got to be under $4 million.

I don't care if it is $3,999,999.99

I just think you have to draw a line in the sand.

He's not a #1 centre, period. He never will be.

Leafs need to play hardball with this guy. You want to play for the Leafs or not?

Bottom line: he's never going to get the minutes on another club that he sees here.

He's just not that good.

Too much.

I'm not opposed to the idea - I don't think anyone is untouchable.

But Kadri looks to be a real keeper.

Gardiner is a wildcard, but I really like what he was doing in the playoffs.

And then you give up the 21st pick?

That's just a little too much, imho.
- Atomic Wedgie

thats Fair, I would be really on the fence about it. I would like to keep Kadri as a #2 option going forward..But (frank) me if thats behind Bozak for another 5 years.

a few things with Kadri concern me. His production was unsustainable, he probably settles in as a 50-60 point player. His first playoffs were just OK..but I would like to see more of course

I have a much stricter criteria on what is called a franchise player, 70 to 80 points is elite not a franchise player.

Slightly different for defenseman but I only think there is a couple of those in the league.
- LeafMan

The league has been blessed with the Stamkos', OV's, Crosby's and Malkin's walltzing in and destroying the league.