So the #1 that is grown on tree's is who? His stats are nothing in regard to the value he brings. I know that is tough to comprehend but I'm glad Leaf brass see's it bc he's on the ice all the time so they see the value.
- honesthockey

Thats for Nonis to figure out. Or sign bozak for 3-3.5, thats fine.

2 half seasons if i recall
- big_dion

Ok

- AdamFrench

Leadership, something this team has none of, for two years only contract.

Yet after 3 years he's still in the same spot
- honesthockey

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for lack of better personnel only

your argument is weak and pathetic.

Leadership, something this team has none of, for two years only contract.
- LeafMan

I know but he's old, slow and kinda sucks.

I will stay with my original stand, been saying it for a few months

Clarkson
Murray or Scuderi
Bickell

Backup plan: Brenden Morrow

New addition: Gordon
- LeafMan

Ok
- honesthockey

well there was 48 games this year in a lockout year, and did he not come to the leafs organization after Wilson was fired about 3/5 through the year?

I know but he's old, slow and kinda sucks.
- AdamFrench

Backup plan if all else fails. Need a guy like him on this team.

Leadership, something this team has none of, for two years only contract.
- LeafMan

Lupul has more leadership that Phaneuf if you ask me!

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for lack of better personnel only

your argument is weak and pathetic.
- Dozzer

Mine is? Yet Carlyle had him on the ice more then anyone. If he was that bad why?

Backup plan if all else fails. Need a guy like him on this team.
- LeafMan

Vinny Prospal one year 3.75?

well there was 48 games this year in a lockout year, and did he not come to the leafs organization after Wilson was fired about 3/5 through the year?
- big_dion

In another 5 years he'll be able to better evaluate.

Vinny Prospal one year 3.75?
- AdamFrench

vinny was really good for CLB - i will give you that

Vinny Prospal one year 3.75?
- AdamFrench

Why not just go for Filppula instead.

edit: didn't see the one year.

In another 5 years he'll be able to better evaluate.
- honesthockey

i guess that means im right, 2 half seasons.

doesnt it just irritate the poop out of you that i proved you to be an idiot once again?

Why not just go for Filppula instead.
- LeafMan

I think he will be looking at 4.5 a year, but V. Filppula does have some talent

Time to spend on real talent in the right positions.
- honesthockey

I gotta hear this ....

And GO

Mine is? Yet Carlyle had him on the ice more then anyone. If he was that bad why?
- honesthockey

because of the draw proficiency.

carlyle had only 2 guys he trusted in the dot at key times

AND

bozak was on one of the PK units.. and guess who was the most penalized team in the league?

wait for it...

TORONTO

you keep pointing at ice time but you simply fail to recognize the WHY part of it.. its weak.. and unsubstantiated.

yay for him.. he got a lot of ice time.. was it because of his play? no.. it was because the leafs lack a true number one centre and they took a (frank) load of penalties.

it wasnt because bozak is so incredibly skilled or deserving at all.

because of the draw proficiency.

carlyle had only 2 guys he trusted in the dot at key times

AND

bozak was on one of the PK units.. and guess who was the most penalized team in the league?

wait for it...

TORONTO

you keep pointing at ice time but you simply fail to recognize the WHY part of it.. its weak.. and unsubstantiated.

yay for him.. he got a lot of ice time.. was it because of his play? no.. it was because the leafs lack a true number one centre and they took a (frank) load of penalties.

it wasnt because bozak is so incredibly skilled or deserving at all.
- Dozzer

Kinda misleading, most were major penalties for fighting.

I think he will be looking at 4.5 a year, but V. Filppula does have some talent
- big_dion

Probably, I just noticed your wife has the same name as my daughter, lol.

Kinda misleading, most were major penalties for fighting.
- LeafMan

maybe true, but regardless when your getting #1 PK time, default #1C time, and some PP time...well, your going to have a lot of ice time!

because of the draw proficiency.

carlyle had only 2 guys he trusted in the dot at key times

AND

bozak was on one of the PK units.. and guess who was the most penalized team in the league?

wait for it...

TORONTO

you keep pointing at ice time but you simply fail to recognize the WHY part of it.. its weak.. and unsubstantiated.

yay for him.. he got a lot of ice time.. was it because of his play? no.. it was because the leafs lack a true number one centre and they took a (frank) load of penalties.

it wasnt because bozak is so incredibly skilled or deserving at all.
- Dozzer

How is it weak? Are you saying his faceoff capabilities and that he can play on the PK and PP have no value? If it's not points you can't measure it? Jesus it's not rocket science.

Kinda misleading, most were major penalties for fighting.
- LeafMan

fair enough.. but the point still stads.. bozak was used a lot out of necessity.. not because he is deserving of it

the man is not a 5million dollar player.. not even close

let him walk.

I gotta hear this ....

And GO
- .HOHO.

I've posted my lineup 10 (frank)ing times.

How is it weak? Are you saying his faceoff capabilities and that he can play on the PK and PP have no value? If it's not points you can't measure it? Jesus it's not rocket science.
- honesthockey

you can get a PK specialist for 2million or less

see: mcclement

and bozak would be, at best, a 20 point player if he didnt have all stars on his line

3 million or let him walk.. thankfully nonis understands basic player value