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Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

May 28 @ 11:26 AM ET
I'll make it short

Offence - Daniel, Henrik, Kassian, Jensen, Hansen, Gaunce, Higgins, Weise, and Kesler or Burrows ( I'd trade them if the offer was right ).

Defence - Hamhuis, Garrison, Tanev, Corrado, and Bieksa.

Goalie - Luongo. Schnieder will get us a bigger return and Lack shoul be able to hold it Down in a few years.

- Juggie_Hundal


Luongo isn't staying. Can we all wrap our f*cking heads around this and let it go!!!!!!! He's not staying. Schneider is our guy.
GadesnSens
Ottawa Senators
Location: 'isn't cheatin if ur wf is watchin, ON
Joined: 06.12.2008

May 28 @ 11:26 AM ET
Yes, one game away from the winning the cup. That's the discrepancy. you sound like such a tool.
- Boinker


love you too buttmunch ..... still hurts that you are out in the first round AGAIN .....

Ottawa had to learn the hard way that thier core of 2007 couldn't do it ... I guess you just havent come to that realization ....yet
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

May 28 @ 11:27 AM ET
love you too buttmunch ..... still hurts that you are out in the first round AGAIN .....

Ottawa had to learn the hard way that thier core of 2007 couldn't do it ... I guess you just havent come to that realization ....yet

- GadesnSens


Our core needs help and we need an offensive weapon. A blowup is not needed. We need a better third and fourth line and a better winger for Kesler.
GadesnSens
Ottawa Senators
Location: 'isn't cheatin if ur wf is watchin, ON
Joined: 06.12.2008

May 28 @ 11:33 AM ET
Our core needs help and we need an offensive weapon. A blowup is not needed. We need a better third and fourth line and a better winger for Kesler.
- Boinker


and .... that's what Ottawa thought in 2008 ...... and 2009, before they re-tooled....

Vancouver made their run in 2011, and then were ousted in the first round the last two years....... its time to re-tool

I'm not saying they should trade the Sedins..... I'm just saying that they shouldnt be off limits - they would offer the best return of what you have on your roster.......
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

May 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
Who's the C, who are the A's?
- John Jaeckel


C- Hank
A- Daniel
A- Kesler
A- Garrison (I find him more vocal the Hamhuis)
lkeh73
Vancouver Canucks
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.29.2012

May 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
Peter Andersson is in your "Core"?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
C- Hank
A- Daniel
A- Kesler
A- Garrison (I find him more vocal the Hamhuis)

- IanEsplen


Mine would be:

C: Burrows
A: Kesler
A: Garrison
A: Higgins
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
The most important thing the Canucks can do is get permission to talk to Eakins, and then hire him.

It will be a huge loss for the Leafs organization if he leaves.

- Aetherial


I thought they got permission yesterday.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
I didn't see a Tanev? Anyways don't like your list. My core.

Sedins
Kesler
Hansen
Kassian
Gaunce
Jensen

Hamhuis
Garrison
Edler (trade possibility for a guy like Bobby Ryan)
Tanev
Corrado

Schneider

Bubble

Burrows
Higgins
Booth
Bieksa
Schroeder
Lack(lets see what he can do in the NHL)

- Boinker



I think this list is more realistic
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

May 28 @ 12:09 PM ET
and .... that's what Ottawa thought in 2008 ...... and 2009, before they re-tooled....

Vancouver made their run in 2011, and then were ousted in the first round the last two years....... its time to re-tool

I'm not saying they should trade the Sedins..... I'm just saying that they shouldnt be off limits - they would offer the best return of what you have on your roster.......

- GadesnSens


not hating on the nucks, but totally agree with this post. Look to 2 things - the pont production of the sedins last few years; the playoff record of the canucks the last 2 years.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 28 @ 12:12 PM ET
not hating on the nucks, but totally agree with this post. Look to 2 things - the pont production of the sedins last few years; the playoff record of the canucks the last 2 years.
- clark_griswold


As much as some people think this team is close to a cup and just need a coach and a center, I am on the opposite side and think we need about 5-6 position changes.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

May 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
For me, Tanev really depends on what kind of contract he wants.

If he's looking for more than 2million - see yah!

If he'll play around that 2 million mark then he is in unless there is a deal out there for him.

How much do people see him signing for? How long?
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

May 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
Tanev, should be a lock.......i wouldn't trade him
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

May 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
As much as some people think this team is close to a cup and just need a coach and a center, I am on the opposite side and think we need about 5-6 position changes.
- VANTEL


well you guys are in a tough spot. You definately have a competitive roster, but the window is closing (if not closed). You can tweak it or go all in...but if you come up short you end up in shambles. Or you might strike gold and end up like the nucks did 2 years ago.

As a complete outsider, i'd move schneider for a forward (luongo is all but done trade wise, especially with the other options out there) and then buy out some junk and hope to hell kesler stays healthy.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 28 @ 12:25 PM ET
well you guys are in a tough spot. You definately have a competitive roster, but the window is closing (if not closed). You can tweak it or go all in...but if you come up short you end up in shambles. Or you might strike gold and end up like the nucks did 2 years ago.

As a complete outsider, i'd move schneider for a forward (luongo is all but done trade wise, especially with the other options out there) and then buy out some junk and hope to hell kesler stays healthy.

- clark_griswold


The Sedins have earned the right to retire Canucks if they wish. I would only extend them another two years at 4.6 Mil per same as the rest of the core. They don't need the money and would take a home town discount.

I would start surrounding them with talent and create a second scoring line like the Hawks have.

Gaunce Kassian Tanev Schneider Garisson and Corrado will be the beginning of our future.

Everyone else is expendable.

With some buyouts that happen throughout the league guys like Richards Vinny Heatly and others will be available for cheap money. Instead of UFA teams will go hunting for bargains top end players for 2 year contracts. That should also reduce the cost of UFAs . This is a good year to have cap space .
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 28 @ 12:43 PM ET
The Sedins have earned the right to retire Canucks if they wish. I would only extend them another two years at 4.6 Mil per same as the rest of the core. They don't need the money and would take a home town discount.

I would start surrounding them with talent and create a second scoring line like the Hawks have.

Gaunce Kassian Tanev Schneider Garisson and Corrado will be the beginning of our future.

Everyone else is expendable.

With some buyouts that happen throughout the league guys like Richards Vinny Heatly and others will be available for cheap money. Instead of UFA teams will go hunting for bargains top end players for 2 year contracts. That should also reduce the cost of UFAs . This is a good year to have cap space .

- VANTEL


I don't think much is going to change, this year will definitely be a lean year for UFAs/RFAs, but next year the cap should go up significantly, so you might see some of those bought out players refusing any contract significantly less than what they were making before and holding out a year until the cap is up again and teams have much more money/cap space available.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

May 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
14 guys has got to be the biggest core in all of sports

NFL teams dont have a core of 14 players
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

May 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
I thought they got permission yesterday.
- Scooby_Doo


They don't need permission. Eakins has a clause that allows him to talk to NHL teams about Head Coaching roles at the end of his season. The Canucks "asked for permission" as a courtesy to the Leafs.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

May 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
I don't think much is going to change, this year will definitely be a lean year for UFAs/RFAs, but next year the cap should go up significantly, so you might see some of those bought out players refusing any contract significantly less than what they were making before and holding out a year until the cap is up again and teams have much more money/cap space available.
- DariusKnight


I don't think they will holdout, but they might look at shorter term deals.

robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
The only reason Colorado would take Seth Jones is because he's a sexy pick being from Colorado, all things being equal he was shown up in the Memorial Cup by McKinnon and Drouin and McKinnon would be their pick. The Twins would give Colorado an extremely dangerous second line behind Landeskog and Duchene and would lift Colorado to playoff status immediately. But since Colorado has issues with attendance and no real face of the franchise is why they would never trade the first overall pick and pick Jones.
- DariusKnight

i woulnt trade any of the top 3 for both sedins. those teams dont need to make the playoffs next year, theres no point of going all in on two players who are aleady as old as they are when theres potential superstar to build a team around for the future
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

May 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
The most important thing the Canucks can do is get permission to talk to Eakins, and then hire him.

It will be a huge loss for the Leafs organization if he leaves.

- Aetherial


They don't need permission. Eakins has a clause that allows him to talk to NHL teams about Head Coaching roles at the end of his season. The Canucks "asked for permission" already as a courtesy to the Leafs.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

May 28 @ 12:57 PM ET
For me, Tanev really depends on what kind of contract he wants.

If he's looking for more than 2million - see yah!

If he'll play around that 2 million mark then he is in unless there is a deal out there for him.

How much do people see him signing for? How long?

- IanEsplen


PK Subban got $2.875 for 2 years. Tanev can't get close to that. He provides little to no offense, has little experience, and is restricted. Defencemen who provide so little offense can't be paid huge amounts.

I say Tanev for 2 years at $1.75M per year.
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

May 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
wonders how creative Gillis is going to Be with LUONGO...?
... will he be delt before Draft?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 28 @ 1:11 PM ET
and .... that's what Ottawa thought in 2008 ...... and 2009, before they re-tooled....

Vancouver made their run in 2011, and then were ousted in the first round the last two years....... its time to re-tool

I'm not saying they should trade the Sedins..... I'm just saying that they shouldnt be off limits - they would offer the best return of what you have on your roster.......

- GadesnSens


I'm just curious, which members of the Ottawa "core" did they move in the re-tool? Is it Danny "I killed my best friend" Heatley you are referring to?

If the Sens had moved Alfredson at any point in the past five years I could see your point, but moving the Sedin's is not a "re-tool".
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

May 28 @ 1:11 PM ET
This list is just way too long for a team who's gone 1-8 the last 2 playoffs who have so few legitimately tradeable assets.

Sedins are only "safe" if they sign extensions (or don't waive no trade clauses of course).

With our defensive depth NO defenceman is "safe." The Canucks can afford to trade Edler or Garrison. Hamhuis or Bieksa. Corrado or Tanev (although I would desperately try to keep both if possible, would need huge return on either).

Kassian, Gaunce & Jensen are only "safe" because I don't think anyone would offer up enough to make it worthwhile trading them. None have shown enough to warrant the type of return the Canucks need to make them available. Kassian & Jensen especially, both have top line potential.

Schroeder??? Are you kidding me??? I'd trade him in a heartbeat if I got a player who could contribute.

Weise? Once again, I'd keep him cause he isn't worth trading. Can't get paid more than $800k though.

Higgins? Like Higgins, but he's a 3rd line player who can fill in at times on the 2nd line. I prefer Hansen, but I'd trade either for the right price.

A Goalie. Well, we definitely need to keep Schneider or Luongo! Agreed!

Kesler. Probably the most "safe" player the Canucks have. He is the straw that stirs the drink. He affects every situation (even strength, PP, PK). He is their best defensive forward and easily their 3rd best offensive player. He's also a center. But for the right price...
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