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hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

May 26 @ 4:10 PM ET
More like the sabres get a nice defender with the 8th slot and Bo Horavt, Curtic Lazar or Valentin Zykov with later one...unless they want two defenders.

If anyone doubts the strength of this upcoming draft, just look at Buffalo and what players will be their for them to select and try and compare that to any other draft.

It is rare that a team comes away with two high quality kids who aren't that far, aren't missing huge parts in their development.

Ask a freind who has seen any of the guys I mentioned and the ones in my 211 player mock on DraftSite, and you start to see the huge list of possibles. The very fact that teams will have to make big decisions with each pick (because if the miss the teams after them will make big "hits") will determine the course of franchise restocking in one swoop.
This is NOT a group that has teams scraping the bottom of their lists in the later stages...I have well over 500 possibles and only 211 will get picked.

You didn't hear that in 2003, because the field dropped off pick 49 when Shea Weber went off the board....this drfat is the gift that will keep on giving....

- wiz1901

They should get one more with a Vanek or a Miller trade. I say go all in and get the #2 pick. MacKinnon. Myers, Stafford, Armia, Pyszyk and 2 #2
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
Won't be there.

Doesn't get past Columbus at 14.

- dadeadhead


Agreed...in my soon to be updated I have Pulock lasting no later than 14, but he could go earlier.

A lot have to do with teams see the defense-first Nikita Zadorov, who doesn't look to be a big up-ice guy, If teams take a great players, Hunter Shinkaruk, and Max Domi, despite their size, if someone is weilling to select Valery Nichushkin so earlier, without any pre-draft idea that he coming soon (or that besides the international positive showings, he was a VHL player), if Elias Lindholm IS off the board based mostly on the vapors that were smoking last years international play, not this years...I think he goes early, but past drafts have seen guys like him drop. Alexander Wennberg may be the guy who goes, based on his size, not his dynamic performances.

So defenseman can move up, especially Pulock, and Morrisey, even the Swiss kid Mirco Müller who may not take any one out of their seat but is just so instinctive and solid.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 4:14 PM ET
They should get one more with a Vanek or a Miller trade. I say go all in and get the #2 pick. MacKinnon. Myers, Stafford, Armia, Pyszyk and 2 #2
- hafgod


There was some talk that Tallon was looking to move out of the slot.

This was a rumor circulating in late February, and it was based on an attempt to get a frontline scorer for the pick.

I just don't know if it was bullfeathers or real.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 26 @ 4:18 PM ET
There was some talk that Tallon was looking to move out of the slot.

This was a rumor circulating in late February, and it was based on an attempt to get a frontline scorer for the pick.

I just don't know if it was bullfeathers or real.

- wiz1901



Vanek?
HAMgerber
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 26 @ 4:27 PM ET
More like the sabres get a nice defender with the 8th slot and Bo Horavt, Curtis Lazar or Valentin Zykov with later one...unless they want two defenders.

If anyone doubts the strength of this upcoming draft, just look at Buffalo and what players will be their for them to select and try and compare that to any other draft.

It is rare that a team comes away with two high quality kids who aren't that far, aren't missing huge parts in their development.

Ask a freind who has seen any of the guys I mentioned and the ones in my 211 player mock on DraftSite, and you start to see the huge list of possibles. The very fact that teams will have to make big decisions with each pick (because if the miss the teams after them will make big "hits") will determine the course of franchise restocking in one swoop.
This is NOT a group that has teams scraping the bottom of their lists in the later stages...I have well over 500 possibles and only 211 will get picked.

You didn't hear that in 2003, because the field dropped off pick 49 when Shea Weber went off the board....this drfat is the gift that will keep on giving....

- wiz1901



Hey moron, you have buffalo taking 4 d out of our top 6 picks.


yeah....no.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 4:36 PM ET
Hey moron, you have buffalo taking 4 d out of our top 6 picks.


yeah....no.

- HAMgerber


I won't qualify the name calling but will see it as your lack of understanding that as I stated above, this is TEAM ME, and my draft list ranking the players as I see them in value.
It hasn't accounted for any teams yet.

We still don't know who drafts where in the top half with the playoffs on.

I will be then that it will be adjusted to fit teams.

I will repeat that post here with the hopes you can see past your missing it:
[Color=Blue]The list hasn't been updated and it is NOT TEAM based as of yet...we still have ot see who finisehd where, right?

The list you see generated on DraftSite, is TEAM me, picking in every slot, as I am the next team, taking you in my eyes is the next best player long term.[/color]

I am sorry that "my" ignorance cause you to fire out a name.

But my list can stand on it's merit, as your actions.

I would much more wonder why Buffalo decided on Mark Pysyk, who wasn't in my first round in 2010, when it was clear he was afriad on any physicality.
He wasn't in my first round at all.
Maybe you need to direct your moron to the Buffal Scouting staff, who missed that in their viewings, or in you management team by wasing a contract year by keeping Mikhail Grigorenko with the parent club.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

May 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
I won't qualify the name calling but will see it as your lack of understanding that as I stated above, this is TEAM ME, and my draft list ranking the players as I see them in value.
It hasn't accounted for any teams yet.

We still don't know who drafts where in the top half with the playoffs on.

I will be then that it will be adjusted to fit teams.

I am sorry that "my" ignorance cause you to fire out a name.

But my list can stand on it's merit, as your actions.

I would much more wonder why Buffalo decided on Mark Pysyk, who wasn't in my first round in 2010, when it was clear he was afriad on any physicality.
He wasn't in my first round at all.

Maybe you need to direct your moron to the Buffal Scouting staff, who missed that in their viewings, or in you management team by wasing a contract year by keeping Mikhail Grigorenko with the parent club.

- wiz1901



We're terribly sorry that Buffalo didn't draft how you thought they would. Also, nobody is talking about the Grigorenko situation. The bottom line is we're not going to be wasting high picks on D men in an offense-heavy draft.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
: The bottom line is we're not going to be wasting high picks on D men in an offense-heavy draft.
- LetsGoBuffalo75


The bottom line is you STILL don't understand how to read the list.

Just take the forward below the defenseman that is there then.

Understand that?
Maybe?
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

May 26 @ 4:44 PM ET
The bottom line is you STILL don't understand hwo to read the list.

Just take the forward below the defenseman that is there then.

Understand that?
Maybe?

- wiz1901

If the list didn't figure in team needs, then why make it a mock draft and assign players to each team? Why not make it a simple player rank list if you're going to completely ignore what each team needs?

Also, you have Max Domi ranked 10th in your player list. Above Shinkaruk.
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

May 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
Here's my mock for the top 211 players.
If you click on the name you can see a nice evaluation of the lad.

http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2013/

Also I have two pertinent my blogs set up here.

The first is about if Patrick Roy will get to influence the Colorad franchise away from their home town dee-man guy to a QMJHL scorer.


- wiz1901http://my.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=14847&user_id=45749

The second speaks to the very strength of this draft:

http://my.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=14847&user_id=45749



"We’re sitting here, and I’m supposed to be the draft expert, and we’re talking about mock drafts. I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about the mock draft, not the actual draft, not the actual draft, not the actual draft, but we’re talking about mock drafts. Not the actual draft that I go out there and die for and predict every pick like it’s my last but we’re talking about mock drafts man. How silly is that? … Now I know that I’m supposed to lead by example and all that but I’m not shoving that aside like it don’t mean anything. I know it’s important, I honestly do but we’re talking about mock drafts. We’re talking about mock drafts man. We’re talking about mock drafts. We’re talking about mock drafts. We’re not talking about the actual draft. We’re talking about mock drafts"
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 4:49 PM ET
:The bottom line is we're not going to be wasting high picks on D men in an offense-heavy draft.
- LetsGoBuffalo75


http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/buffalo/72/

Maybe I read this different than you do:

Picks38 and 48 are both forwards,

Andre' Burakowsky
Conner Hurley

and if you apply the idea of dropping aslot to the next best (that is forward, because "Buffalo would NEVER draft a defender!" you see the following as the top four Buffalo picks

Max Domi
Valentin Zykov
Andre' Burakowsky
Conner Hurley

and I am willing to come abck here after the draft (as I hope you will) and see if what I am about to say hold up:

If they don't like the players at 8 & 18 because they are defenser, they will trade out, and gain picks.

There will be more than a few really good long term options in the 2-4th round that extra picks will get you of you drop a few slots.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 4:53 PM ET
If the list didn't figure in team needs, then why make it a mock draft and assign players to each team? Why not make it a simple player rank list if you're going to completely ignore what each team needs?

- LetsGoBuffalo75


You have to have somewhere to start right?

All year long the list and positions of the teams in them altered.

Can I pigeon hole a player for the Balckhawks and place in neatly in slot 30?

...and if they are out on Monday, their slot changes right?




wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 4:54 PM ET
We’re talking about mock drafts"
- PinkSock


and we have a baseball team as our first love as an avatar/icon....
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 5:01 PM ET

Also, you have Max Domi ranked 10th in your player list. Above Shinkaruk.

- LetsGoBuffalo75


Yes, I do...after watching the Memorial Cup I don't think you can downgrade "little" Domi.

He is in my top ten as of Tuesday.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 5:07 PM ET
Hou have buffalo taking 4 d out of our top 6 picks.

- HAMgerber


Over the course of the past three drafts I have heard from plenty an outraged fans from Carolina who told me they weren't taking Murphy, From Montreal fans who said they wouldn't take Nathan Beaulieu or Tinordi the next year, because "we" don't need defensemen.

These pro scouting staffs and GM actually do sometimes that the best player available despite they fanbase thinking differently. I will be anxious to see the Buffalo selections!

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
and then 2003 disappears

This 2013 draft has a pronounced strong top middle and bottom first round that extends farther inot the second than any in the history of the draft.
The very fact that there are so many late bloomers and good long term prospects teams will get a chance to pass that 2003 group from the top six rounds.
There has never been an all around thicker draft.

- wiz1901

potential

it's a bad word on so many levels

get back to me in ten years if this draft class produces at a level near the 2003 draft class

I mean this with no disrespect of course
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 26 @ 5:12 PM ET


get back to me in ten years if this draft class produces at a level near the 2003 draft class

I mean this with no disrespect of course

- homiedclown


None taken, my friend!

Glad to see something that isn't a flame!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 26 @ 5:22 PM ET
MikeyOz
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Melbourne
Joined: 11.22.2006

May 26 @ 5:32 PM ET
Zherdev is a difference maker ? Still quite a few players in that draft that are busts, amazing looking at the draft order in retrospect and the players that went later and how they turned out.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 5:55 PM ET
I won't qualify the name calling but will see it as your lack of understanding that as I stated above, this is TEAM ME, and my draft list ranking the players as I see them in value.
It hasn't accounted for any teams yet.

We still don't know who drafts where in the top half with the playoffs on.

I will be then that it will be adjusted to fit teams.

I will repeat that post here with the hopes you can see past your missing it:

- wiz1901[Color=Blue]The list hasn't been updated and it is NOT TEAM based as of yet...we still have ot see who finisehd where, right?

The list you see generated on DraftSite, is TEAM me, picking in every slot, as I am the next team, taking you in my eyes is the next best player long term.[/color]

I am sorry that "my" ignorance cause you to fire out a name.

But my list can stand on it's merit, as your actions.

I would much more wonder why Buffalo decided on Mark Pysyk, who wasn't in my first round in 2010, when it was clear he was afriad on any physicality.
He wasn't in my first round at all.

Maybe you need to direct your moron to the Buffal Scouting staff, who missed that in their viewings, or in you management team by wasing a contract year by keeping Mikhail Grigorenko with the parent club.


Did you watch Pysyk play at all?
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

May 26 @ 6:08 PM ET
and we have a baseball team as our first love as an avatar/icon....
- wiz1901



WTF are you talking about??? Random BS
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

May 26 @ 6:30 PM ET
I strongly doubt the Devils take a Defender in the first round this year ( not because they aren't a Defensive team or because they often do) but strickly based on our Team our prospect pool, having to forfeit our first round next year and the draft is in NJ plus we are still looking to replace Parise possibly even Clarkson and likely Elias in a few years to retirement
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 26 @ 6:33 PM ET
I strongly doubt the Devils take a Defender in the first round this year ( not because they aren't a Defensive team or because they often do) but strickly based on our Team our prospect pool, having to forfeit our first round next year and the draft is in NJ plus we are still looking to replace Parise possibly even Clarkson and likely Elias in a few years to retirement
- blizzzard

You guys should trade down, the run on d will come around where you pick, you could move back and take A forward
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

May 26 @ 6:36 PM ET
"It" is me, lol!

The list hasn't been updated and it is NOT TEAM based as of yet...we still have ot see who finisehd where, right?

The list you see generated on DraftSite, is TEAM me, picking in every slot, as I am the next team, taking you in my eyes is the next best player long term...i will revise as I do every couple weeks since November with the next couple days.
In fact an update is due on Tuesday with the rearranged first round.
BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE to Buffalo or ANY TEAM DRAFTING in any slot:
Seth Jones
Nathan MacKinnon
Jonathan Drouin
Alexsander Barkov
Sean Monahan
Valery Nichushkin
Elias Lindholm
Darnell Nurse
Rasmus Ristolainen
Max Domi
Adam Erne
Hunter Shinkaruk
Nikita Zadorov
Ryan Pulock
Ryan Hartman
Bo Horvat
Samuel Morin
Josh Morrissey
Valentin Zykov
Curtis Lazar
Alexander Wennberg
Kerby Rychel
Mirco Müller
J.T. Compher
Steve Santini
Morgan Klimchuk
Tom Vanelli
Anthony Mantha
Shea Theodore
Robert Hägg
Frederick Gauthier
Emile Poirier
William Carrier
Andre' Burakowsky
Zack Fucale
Tristan Jarry
Madison Bowey
Nick Sørenson
Ian McCoshen
Keaton Thompson
Anthony Duclair
Jacob De La Rose
Jackson Houck
Justin Bailey
Pavel Buchnevich
Jason Richardinson
Marc-Olivier Roy
Tyler Hill
Laurent Dauphin
Connor Hurley
Jimmy Lodge
Nic Petan
Oliver Bjorkstrand
Ryan Fitzgerald
Eric Comrie
Chris Bigras
Brett Pesce
Ryan Kujawinski
Dillon Heatherington
Adam Tambellini
Rinat Valiyev
Artturi Lehkonen
Nick Baptiste
Evan Allen
Will Butcher
Matt Murphy
Michael Brodzinski
Eric Roy
Linus Arnesson
Philippe Desrosiers
Austin Lotz
Marko Dano
Alex Henriksson
Sean Malone
Gustav Olofsson
Micheal Downing
Avery Peterson
Carl Dahlström
Jesse Lees
Michael McCarron
John Hayden
Hudson Fasching
Zach Sanford
Zach Natasiuk
Gabryel Paquin-Boudreau
Gage Ausmus
Niklas Hansson
Ross Olsson
Nick Moutrey
Mason Geertsen
Blaine Byron
Roberts Lipsbergs
J. C. Lipon
Spencer Martin
Wiley Sherman
MacKenzie Weegar
Sergei Stetsenko
Anton Slepyshev
Vyacheslav Leshchenko
Bogdan Yakimov
Sergei Tolchinsky
Eric Locke
Jaimen Yakublowski
Martin Reway
Greg Chase
Brendan Harms
Jordan Subban
Jean-Sébastien Dea
Matt Campagna
Cole Ully
Peter Cehlarik
Nicholas Paul
Teemu Kivihalme
Jackson Whistle
Tyler Lewington
Colby Cave
Robin Press
Ryan Graves
Connor Rankin
Yan-Pavel Laplante
Remi Elie
Saku Mäenalanen
Marcus Högberg
Fredrik Bergvik
Vincent Dunn
Thomas Ebbing
Cole Cassels
Ben Harpur
Evan Cowley
Jan Kostalek
Viktor Crus-Rydberg
Cal Petersen
Kyle Burroughs
Marc McNulty
Eamon McAdam
Eddie Ellis
Macoy Erkamps
Jonathan-Ismael Diaby
Juuse Saros
Parker Reno
Antoine Bibeau
Alexandre Belanger
Jared Hauf
Kurt Etchegary
Carter Verhaege
Stephen Harper
Carter Rigby
Sven Andrighetto
Anthony Florentino
Taylor Cammarata
Jaedon Descheneau
Jerret Smith
Axel Blomqvist
Matt Buckles
Tyler Motte
Juuso Ikonen
Tyler Bertuzzi
Brody Silk
Justin Auger
Connor Honey
Jørgen Karterud
Markus Söberg
Conner Clifton
Clint Lewis
Wilhelm Westlund
Parker Bowles
Gabe Guertler
Viktor Arvidsson
Louis-Phillippe Guindon
Andrei Sigarev
Tommy Veilleux
Jayden Hart
Scott Savage
Lukas Klok
Luke Ripley
Riley Sheen
Jérémy Grégoire
Mitchell Wheaton
Ruslan Pedan
Brett Boehm
Ty Stanton
Erik Bradford
Brett Pederson
Kayle Doetzel
John Edwardh
Chris Clapperton
Tim McGauley
Jason Salvaggio
Jerome Verrier
Colby Williams
Dwyer Tshantz
Jeff Corbett
Jordan Maletta
Bronson Beaton
William Haag
Charlie Lindgren
Emil Djuse
Jake Montgomery
Rushan Rafikov
Dylan Labbe'
Maxim Mamin
Nolan De Jong
Lucas Wallmark
Edgars Kulda
Trevor Murphy
Jordan Gross
Dominik Kubalik
Anthony DiFruscia
Alexei Bereglazov
Frank Palazzese
Markus Eisenschmid
Peter Quenneville
Sergei Kuptsov
Joshua Burnside
Nick Betz
Max Becker
Leon Bristedt
Jamal Watson
Felix Westermarck
Mathieu Lemay
Mikael Johansson
Zach Hall
Jake Guentzel
Jonatan Tanus
Conor McGlynn
Matt Weis
Mads Eller
Matthew Needham
Brandon Magee
Jay Merkley
Miles Liberati
Maxime Gravel
Keegan Kanzig
Blake Heinrich
Anton Cederholm
Spenser Jensen
Adam Bateman
Justin Guenette
Alex Coulombe
Andrei Mironov
Dominik Kahun
Oliver Cooper
Jacob Pritchard
Patrik Zdrahal
Daniel Vanderwiel
Alex Talcott
Zach Glienke
Dawson Cook
Mitchell Dempsey
Tomas Török
Patrik Bartosak
Mack Shields
Samuel Ward
Jake Patterson
Michael Gulgovaz
Brendan Burke
Maros Mikolas
Eetu Laurikainen
Thorsten Knorr
Jordan DeKort
Alex Fotinos
Sean Romero
Ville Husso
Domenic Graham
Arthur Brey
Brendan Jensen
Jacob Blair
Nicola Aeberhard
Ivan Bocharov
Eric Brassard
Andrei Filonenko
Wyatt Hoflin
Joel Lassinantti
Janne Juvonen
Marcus Messier
Hunter Miska
Ebbe Sionas
Rene Svoboda
Atte Tolvanen
Luka Gracner
Melvin Nyffeler
Mackenzie Skapski
Brett Zarowny
Eric Vierkant
Miro Aaltonen
Austin Adam
Thomas Aldworth
Julius Andersson
Sven Andrighetto
Joose Antonen
Eliot Antonietti
Viktor Arvidsson
Henri Auvinen
John Baiocco
Cole Bardreau
Alex Basso
Nicolas Beaudin
Brett Beauvais
Myles Bell
Matthieu Bellerive
Tim Bender
Matej Beran
Aaron Berisha
Greg Betzgold
Dane Birks
Alexandre Boivin
Conor Boland
Igor Boldin
Dylan Bowen
Eric Bradford
Ian Brady
Chance Braid
Nikolas Brouillard
Davis Brown
Joshua Brown
Vlad Bryukvin
Taylor Burke
Austin Cangelosi
Ryan Callahan
Chris Carlisle
Peter Cehlarik
Bryson Cianfrone
Chris Clapperton
Dawson Cook
Andrew Coop
Cody Corbett
Jeff Corbett
Jason Cotton
Joshua Couturier
Shane Dallaire
Dexter Dancs
Cam Darcy
Anthony DeLuca
Frank DiChiara
Leon Draisaitl
Sheldon Dries
Steven Duda
Jean Dupuy
Niclas Eklöw
Jake Evans
Luca Fazzini
Austin Farley
Taylor Fernandez
Sam Fioretti
Dakota Ford
Chris Forney
Alex Forsberg
Simon Fortier
Dane Fox
Jason Fram
Jesper Frödén
Ruzal Galeyev
Garrett Gamez
Hunter Garlent
Thomas Gobeil
Alex Gudbranson
Jake Guentzel
Keith Guiltinan
Nikolai Glukhov
Fabian Gunnarsson
Evgeni Gureyev
Henrik Haapala
Dante Hahn
Mark Hamilton
Trevor Hamilton
Markus Hännikäinen
Carter Hansen
Joshua Hanson
Justin Hamonic
Jayden Hart
Adam Helewka
Adam Henry
Jens Högbom
Fabio Hogger
Mitch Holmberg
Marcus Hinds
Nick Hutchinson
Max Iafrate
Henri Ikonen
Roman Ilyin
Ryan Ivey
Jacob Jackson
Nikita Jevpalovs
Adam Johnson
Luke Johnson
Ross Johnston
Michael Joly
Mitch Jones
Troy Josephs
Jørgen Karterud
Tyler Kelleher
Alex Kile
Justin Kloos
Martin Kokeš
Pavel Koledov
Ilya Korenev
Amil Krupic
Dean Kukan
Edgars Kulda
Joel L'Esperance
Daniel Labosky
Michael Laffin
Daniel Lafontaine
Matti Lamberg
Robert Leino
Mathieu Lemay
Connor Lemirande
Vinni Lettieri
Craig Leverton
Mikke Levo
Erlend Lesund
Tyler Lewington
Anthony Lewis
Clint Lewis
Connor Light
Tobias Liljendahl
Roberts Lipsbergs
Trent Lofthouse
Ramon Lopez
Rob Lubos
Emil Lundberg
Michael Lyle
Vladislav Lysenko
Atte Mäkinen
Jake Marchment
Michal Moravcik
Russell Maxwell
Alec McCrea
Dylan McLaughlin
Logan McVeigh
Drew Melanson
Marcus Messier
Dakota Mermis
Corey Millette
Andrei Mironov
Zack Mitchell
Alexander Mokshantsev
Dan Molenaar
Meirs Moore
Trevor Moore
Michal Moravcik
Douglas Morris
Aidan Muir
Cole Murphy
Aleksi Mustonen
Daniel Nikandrov
Ayrton Nikkel
Mikhail Naumenkov
Robin Norell
Stephen Nosad
Thomas Nykopp
Matty O'Donnell
Andrew Oglevie
Victor Öhman
Hampus Olsson
Vyacheslav Osnovin
Ben Ostlie
Chad Otterman
Valtteri Parikka
Charlie Pelnik
Carson Perreaux
Avery Peterson
Steve Pietrobon
Brian Pinho
Neal Pionk
Zack Pittman
Kyle Platzer
Tucker Poolman
Stuart Pomeroy
Quin Pompi
Gustav Possler
Adam Power
Jacob Pritchard
Janne Puhakka
Willie Raskob
Alec Rauhauser
Mark Raycroft
Jurij Repe
Juuso Riikola
Lucas Rosendahl
Jeremy Boyce-Rotevall
Andrew Ryan
Michael Sabatini
Santeri Saari
Sami Salminen
Saku Salminen
Landon Schiller
Nicholas Schilkey
Jalen Schulz
Justin Scott
Ryan Segalla
Nikita Setdikov
Kiefer Sherwood
Quentin Shore
Timotej Sille
Ryan Siroky
Craig Skudalski
Dylan Smoskowitz
Alex Smith
Robin Söderqvist
David Soltes
Mikey Soucier
Carson Soucy
Thomas Stavert
Jan Stencel
J.T. Stenglein
Tommy Stenqvist
Josh Sterk
John Stevens
Ben Storm
Paul Stoykewych
Scott Teskey
Frederik Tiffels
Devin Tringale
Simon Tremblay
Ruslan Trubkin
Wil Tomchuk
Philip Tot
Dwyer Tshantz
Tyler Andrew
Juuso Vainio
Joonas Valkonen
Steven Varga
Curtis Valk
Philippe Venne
Jerome Verrier
Tyler Vesel
Layne Viveiros
Michael Vlajkov
Luke Voltin
Kirill Vorobyev
Anthony Walsh
Spencer Wand
Sam Ward
Grant Webermin
Christian Weidauer
Riley Whittingham
Joe Widmar
Brian Williams
Andreas Wingren
Joshua Winquist
Justin Woods
Tyler Wood
Andre Yerofeyev
Egor Yudov
Alex Yuill
Evgeni Zakurin
Adam Zboril
Patrik Zdrahal
Stanislav Zinchenko
Pavel Zykov

There are still many many guys from the last two years who teams may also have on their sleeper lists...IF they get past the strong stable of horses above!


I could go on but the point is the above names DWARF the ones after the top 49 in 2003...

My list of 210 has been posted since November while Craig button and the others where reaching for their bottom 20-30 with players that will be there in the third round. This also speaks to the strength of this group of prospects.

I think Samuel Morin is a reach, as you think Nurse is...but teams will always see a bigger fluid defender and no matter how much is missing from the product now, they will be willing to watch the kid grow the rest of his game if they feels he is able.

- wiz1901


If thats your order of best available, and that mock is not team based, then why do you have FLA taking Drouin over MacKinnon who is 3rd not 2nd, and everything from the 9th to 16th pick is pretty much completely out of order. You have players falling (Ristolainen) players jumping (Zadarov) and players back or up a spot or 2.

Disagree that you didnt put SOME team thought into it.



theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

May 26 @ 6:39 PM ET
And little Gerbe man, you must have been smoking some crack if you think Nashville is going to skip on MacKinnon for Barkov in that one mock draft.
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