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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 2:33 PM ET
But everyone can accept Pulock's skill and potential. Surely, unless something went drastically wrong developing him, he could land top 5 on that list, if not top 3.
- JAKEw1234


Everyone could accept Pitkanen being a future Norris contender, too....you never know in a draft where you're picking 18 year old kids.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

May 26 @ 2:53 PM ET
I have this sinking feeling Pulock is going to sit on the board only to fall to Dallas.
- hereticpride

I could see him going as early as 7th to Edmonton, or dropping as far as 19th to columbus.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 26 @ 3:20 PM ET
I have this sinking feeling Pulock is going to sit on the board only to fall to Dallas.
- hereticpride


Why are you settling on Pulock? Plenty to be excited about for the draft.
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

May 26 @ 3:39 PM ET
I think that the position of the player we draft doesn't matter much at all. What matters is developing the player in the years after drafting/acquiring them. The Flyers have been very good at that in recent years.

By having guys like Hatcher and Laperriere working with the kids in the system, and having veterans like Timonen and Briere, along with a great coach and a savvy GM, the Flyers have been able to support the development of young players like Claude Giroux, Sean Couturier, Matt Read, Wayne Simmonds, Scott Laughton...

If we could just get into the habit of keeping our picks instead of trading them I think we'll see good returns on our long term investments.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 26 @ 4:02 PM ET
I think that the position of the player we draft doesn't matter much at all. What matters is developing the player in the years after drafting/acquiring them. The Flyers have been very good at that in recent years.

By having guys like Hatcher and Laperriere working with the kids in the system, and having veterans like Timonen and Briere, along with a great coach and a savvy GM, the Flyers have been able to support the development of young players like Claude Giroux, Sean Couturier, Matt Read, Wayne Simmonds, Scott Laughton...

If we could just get into the habit of keeping our picks instead of trading them I think we'll see good returns on our long term investments.

- Coburns_Nose


I'm with you. A few years ago, when the talk was about how the Flyers had the best defense in the NHL, there wasn't much talk about how the defense was acquired. I don't care how it's done as long as it get's done. When Boston won the Cup, and most of their team was acquired by means other then drafting,. I'm sure their fans didn't care about that at the parade. Name of the game is to win. Just win. I don't care how you do it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 4:50 PM ET
Why are you settling on Pulock? Plenty to be excited about for the draft.
- ob18


Nope, if they don't get Pulock, we might as well kill ourselves
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 26 @ 4:51 PM ET
Why are you settling on Pulock? Plenty to be excited about for the draft.
- ob18


I'm very intrigued by Shinkaruk. What is your top 11 prospect list, curious if anything has changed now.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 26 @ 4:54 PM ET
[quote=flyav]
There's definitely a gray area to what I said and the Hamilton couturier ordeal is one that I concur with you on. I'm just saying that generally they've done a good job. They have certainly drafted some excellent forwards.
Pelle31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Johnstown, PA
Joined: 02.13.2007

May 26 @ 4:55 PM ET
if they don't take a defenseman with the top pick the city should burn. this is a pretty deep draft for defenseman....

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 26 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'm with you. A few years ago, when the talk was about how the Flyers had the best defense in the NHL, there wasn't much talk about how the defense was acquired. I don't care how it's done as long as it get's done. When Boston won the Cup, and most of their team was acquired by means other then drafting,. I'm sure their fans didn't care about that at the parade. Name of the game is to win. Just win. I don't care how you do it.
- MJL

I think if pronged never got injured we wouldn't even be discussing this.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 4:57 PM ET
if they don't take a defenseman with the top pick the city should burn. this is a pretty deep draft for defenseman....
- Pelle31


They should take the best player available in the first round. Defenseman, winger, center or goalie.

If they take a defenseman, but pass up a better player, then they are morons.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 26 @ 4:57 PM ET
if they don't take a defenseman with the top pick the city should burn. this is a pretty deep draft for defenseman....
- Pelle31

What if the dman they draft ends up being a 3-4 guy while the forward they pass on goes on to be a perrenial art Ross winner?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 4:58 PM ET
I think if pronged never got injured we wouldn't even be discussing this.
- JoeRussomanno


Nope. Wouldn't even be discussed, outside of getting a guy to groom as his replacement.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
They should take the best player available in the first round. Defenseman, winger, center or goalie.

If they take a defenseman, but pass up a better player, then they are morons.

- Jsaquella


I find it rather interesting that there already is a sentiment that Hamilton is assured to be the better player over Coots already. I suppose the career paths of Tyler Myers and Victor Hedman should at least put doubt in the discussion.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
Nope. Wouldn't even be discussed, outside of getting a guy to groom as his replacement.
- Jsaquella


Well grooming a guy for his replacement or at least Kimmo's
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
I find it rather interesting that there already is a sentiment that Hamilton is assured to be the better player over Coots already. I suppose the career paths of Tyler Myers and Victor Hedman should at least put doubt in the discussion.
- ravishingone


JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 26 @ 5:09 PM ET
I find it rather interesting that there already is a sentiment that Hamilton is assured to be the better player over Coots already. I suppose the career paths of Tyler Myers and Victor Hedman should at least put doubt in the discussion.
- ravishingone

This is another aspect to be considered. Even tho I wish they opted for Hamilton it could very well play out that Hamilton is only a 3-4 guy while coots is perennial selke winner.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
This is another aspect to be considered. Even tho I wish they opted for Hilton it could very well play out that Hamilton is only a 3-4 guy while coots is perennial selke winner.
- JoeRussomanno


Well, Hamilton saw pretty much the weakest competition among Bruins defensemen, and was outplayed by the lesser regarded Torey Krug during the playoffs.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 5:11 PM ET
Where is Eric Desjardins?
- LeafsNation89


Fishing in Quebec.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
This is another aspect to be considered. Even tho I wish they opted for Hamilton it could very well play out that Hamilton is only a 3-4 guy while coots is perennial selke winner.
- JoeRussomanno


Also, if you look at history, the Flyers have used their first and second round picks to bolster the blueline.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 26 @ 5:29 PM ET
With all the talk of drafting a D man I find this bizarre: There is talk of CAR buying out Pitkanen. He has only played 55 games in the past two years but has proven to still be a reliable offensive threat. He is 29 years old and makes 4.5M. Wouldn't it be intriguing if CAR buys him out to spend on Skinner and we picked him up to aid in our issue of more puck moving D? Unlikely, but it would be just how the universe works- in strange ways.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 26 @ 5:30 PM ET
Fishing in Quebec.
- Jsaquella

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
This is another aspect to be considered. Even tho I wish they opted for Hamilton it could very well play out that Hamilton is only a 3-4 guy while coots is perennial selke winner.
- JoeRussomanno


It's about the situation also. I bet if Hamilton was on the Flyers, with the Season they had. The talk would be about his struggles and he's a bust from some.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
With all the talk of drafting a D man I find this bizarre: There is talk of CAR buying out Pitkanen. He has only played 55 games in the past two years but has proven to still be a reliable offensive threat. He is 29 years old and makes 4.5M. Wouldn't it be intriguing if CAR buys him out to spend on Skinner and we picked him up to aid in our issue of more puck moving D? Unlikely, but it would be just how the universe works- in strange ways.
- coffee junkie


I think the entire situation is unpredictable. Who knows what's going to happen.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 26 @ 5:46 PM ET
I think the entire situation is unpredictable. Who knows what's going to happen.
- MJL

Yep, it's going to be one exciting off season. The buyouts are a total wildcard. I mean a LECAVALIER and/or THORTON could be bought out and looking for new contracts. I'm loving it.
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