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therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

May 25 @ 7:13 PM ET
Hartnell & Simmonds can play on my team any day & if i'm the Flyers GM, no way am I parting with either player. Those are guys that win in the clutch, those are the type of players built for the playoffs & those are the type of players that also free up space for the more skilled players.

The Oilers could use these type players & I think MacT would offer up the 7th overall for Simmonds in a heart-beat. The guy does everything & that well worth the first rounder. People sometimes get enamored with first round picks but to add a proven player who can score, hit & fight - how is that a worse trade-off - it's not.

To me Simmonds is the better player so i'm not sure the Oilers would move the 7th for Hartnell straight across, I know I would but again it takes some guts but if you believe that's the type of player your team is missing, then go ahead and do it and don't worry about what the fans & media are going to say.

Again, players like that are so hard to find & that's why it's so difficult to get them in a trade.

- newmy


You're not getting Simmonds out of Philly. Hartnell is a heart and soul guy who won't be traded. They're not rebuilding. Briere, Mezaros and Coburn will be in play. Edmonton could use any of those three but not for a 1st.

Gagner, Hemsky, Smid to Boston
Lucic, Caron, Boston's 1st to Edmonton

Oilers package their 1st + Boston's 1st to Nashville to get Barkov.






ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 25 @ 7:15 PM ET
You're not getting Simmonds out of Philly. Hartnell is a heart and soul guy who won't be traded. They're not rebuilding. Briere, Mezaros and Coburn will be in play. Edmonton could use any of those three but not for a 1st.

Gagner, Hemsky, Smid to Boston
Lucic, Caron, Boston's 1st to Edmonton

Oilers package their 1st + Boston's 1st to Nashville to get Barkov.

- therealagent


I wish but leaves a big hole at centre and on D.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

May 25 @ 7:17 PM ET
I wish but leaves a big hole at centre and on D.
- ystoil



we'll give you edler for eberle. the names are similar enough that they can just switch jerseys. solves problems for both teams.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 25 @ 7:18 PM ET
You're not getting Simmonds out of Philly. Hartnell is a heart and soul guy who won't be traded. They're not rebuilding. Briere, Mezaros and Coburn will be in play. Edmonton could use any of those three but not for a 1st.

Gagner, Hemsky, Smid to Boston
Lucic, Caron, Boston's 1st to Edmonton

Oilers package their 1st + Boston's 1st to Nashville to get Barkov.

- therealagent


Why is Boston doing this ???
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 25 @ 7:23 PM ET
we'll give you edler for eberle. the names are similar enough that they can just switch jerseys. solves problems for both teams.
- therealagent


I've always liked edler. What about paajarvi and two seconds
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

May 25 @ 7:25 PM ET
Why is Boston doing this ???
- Redmile247


because they'll lose to the pens and need to change their team. kreji and hemsky are magic together. gagner adds a lot and his scrappy style fits in. smid does for them what seidenburg did. boston's window with their core is now. it gives them protection at center ice should bergeron bolt to the nordiques (i.e. Avs who with Roy/Sakic will get a roster of french canadiens) in 2014/2015.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

May 25 @ 7:26 PM ET
I've always liked edler. What about paajarvi and two seconds
- ystoil

nope. don't want a project for a guy who looks like a norris candidate for stretches. eberle or gagner +
Forsberg4Prez
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kamloops, BC
Joined: 11.05.2012

May 25 @ 7:29 PM ET


you're right. EDM should trade Eberle. A 23YO who had a 76 point season 1 year ago, +a 7th overall pick in the deepest draft in a decade..for..wait for it...a top 6 centre.

Not even a 1st line C, just someone who can play in a scoring role. Canucks fans once again with their everflowing hockey knowledge on full display

- TheNugeIsHuge

Exactly what I was thinking. The only way I'm getting rid of Eberle is for what MacT said.. A massive overpayment. We didn't suck this long just so we could give away our stars. I'd like somebody of Kesler's skill set, minus the diving, little b!tch.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 25 @ 7:42 PM ET
because they'll lose to the pens and need to change their team. kreji and hemsky are magic together. gagner adds a lot and his scrappy style fits in. smid does for them what seidenburg did. boston's window with their core is now. it gives them protection at center ice should bergeron bolt to the nordiques (i.e. Avs who with Roy/Sakic will get a roster of french canadiens) in 2014/2015.
- therealagent


Haha good one
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 25 @ 7:43 PM ET
You're not getting Simmonds out of Philly. Hartnell is a heart and soul guy who won't be traded. They're not rebuilding. Briere, Mezaros and Coburn will be in play. Edmonton could use any of those three but not for a 1st.

Gagner, Hemsky, Smid to Boston
Lucic, Caron, Boston's 1st to Edmonton

Oilers package their 1st + Boston's 1st to Nashville to get Barkov.

- therealagent



I'm not saying the Oilers would get either of them but what i'm saying is those are the type of players teams need & those are the type of players you move the 7th overall for(again Simmonds more than Hartnell)
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 25 @ 7:46 PM ET
nope. don't want a project for a guy who looks like a norris candidate for stretches. eberle or gagner +
- therealagent


Worth a shot

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 25 @ 7:46 PM ET


you're right. EDM should trade Eberle. A 23YO who had a 76 point season 1 year ago, +a 7th overall pick in the deepest draft in a decade..for..wait for it...a top 6 centre.

Not even a 1st line C, just someone who can play in a scoring role. Canucks fans once again with their everflowing hockey knowledge on full display

- TheNugeIsHuge

well I guess you'd have to read between the lines to guess that kind of payment would get you one of the TOP center's in the league...but it doesn't surprise me that it flew over your head.

I'm not sure there is a star center out there to be had, but if there was, that would certainly get it done for you.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 25 @ 7:50 PM ET
nope. don't want a project for a guy who looks like a norris candidate for stretches. eberle or gagner +
- therealagent


for very short stretches not very often
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

May 25 @ 7:52 PM ET
You're not getting Simmonds out of Philly. Hartnell is a heart and soul guy who won't be traded. They're not rebuilding. Briere, Mezaros and Coburn will be in play. Edmonton could use any of those three but not for a 1st.

Gagner, Hemsky, Smid to Boston
Lucic, Caron, Boston's 1st to Edmonton

Oilers package their 1st + Boston's 1st to Nashville to get Barkov.

- therealagent

I can see one of hartnell Simmonds or brayden schenn being traded for a guy like Edler. I don't see anyone trading for briere when its pretty evident he's going to be bought out.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

May 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
I'm not saying the Oilers would get either of them but what i'm saying is those are the type of players teams need & those are the type of players you move the 7th overall for(again Simmonds more than Hartnell)
- newmy



eberle, smid and this year's 1st for marc staal, kreider and hagelin

therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

May 25 @ 7:55 PM ET
for very short stretches not very often
- TheNugeIsHuge


this is why canuck fans wanted a new staff. the kid is lost at times and needs a better tutor. losing Salo was the biggest mistake gillis has made and he's made many.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 25 @ 7:55 PM ET
nope. don't want a project for a guy who looks like a norris candidate for stretches. eberle or gagner +
- therealagent


Have you actually watched edler this year ?? Norris candidate ?
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

May 25 @ 7:57 PM ET
eberle, smid and this year's 1st for marc staal, kreider and hagelin
- therealagent

Kind of a gamble for edm, depending on how staals peripheral vision is coming. I've heard that his pcs is still pretty terrible.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 25 @ 8:00 PM ET
we'll give you edler for eberle. the names are similar enough that they can just switch jerseys. solves problems for both teams.
- therealagent

Sorry dude but stretches aren't enough. The stretches where he doesn't look like a Norris candidate are brutal and too frequent.
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

May 25 @ 8:04 PM ET
Lucic
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

May 25 @ 8:06 PM ET
Why not go for something a bit more substantial?

NSH 1st + Ellis

Oil 1st + Pajaarvi + Omark/Rajala + ANAs 2nd

not sure if we need to throw in the 2nd
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 25 @ 8:09 PM ET
Why not go for something a bit more substantial?

NSH 1st + Ellis

Oil 1st + Pajaarvi + Omark/Rajala + ANAs 2nd

not sure if we need to throw in the 2nd

- BigDre

Would have more value than Omark.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 25 @ 8:42 PM ET
Nurse won't make any sort of immediate difference. Chances are we wouldn't even see him in Oilers silks for 2-3 years. What they really need is some proven talent on the back end.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


What your mom needs is some proven talent on the back end.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 25 @ 8:49 PM ET
What your mom needs is some proven talent on the back end.
- laughs2907

Maybe your sister can teach her.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 25 @ 8:58 PM ET
Maybe your sister can teach her.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


There's no doubt about it.
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