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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 25 @ 2:42 PM ET
when was the last time lupul dropped the gloves?

i cant remember either.. and power forwards fight.. with some frequency

lupul is not a physical enough player to be considered a power forward

- Dozzer




Thank you.

He's a skill/speed guy. I have no problem with how he plays.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
O.K.Subban, last year I think.
- A_Tree


exactly

power forwards are feared in the corners and along the boards.. they have balanced mix of physical and skill play

lupul uses power moves, like driving the net, but that alone doesnt make a guy a power forward
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
Thank you.

He's a skill/speed guy. I have no problem with how he plays.

- burn


people sometimes mistake power moves (like driving the net as i mentioned) as the definition of power forward.

power forward..... think iginla in his late twenties early thirties
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
when was the last time lupul dropped the gloves?

i cant remember either.. and power forwards fight.. with some frequency

lupul is not a physical enough player to be considered a power forward

- Dozzer


When did you guys link fighting with PF? Nash is the typical PF and he doesn't fight!
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 25 @ 2:49 PM ET
people sometimes mistake power moves (like driving the net as i mentioned) as the definition of power forward.

power forward..... think iginla in his late twenties early thirties

- Dozzer


Dozzer, c'mon, was Neely a big fighter?
Canadian kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.28.2006

May 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
Dozzer, c'mon, was Neely a big fighter?
- aminnes


Not really. But he scared the crap outta players. Guys wouldn't instigate with him out there.

The question is would Lupul and co. exact the same response?

As much as I love the guy the answer is no. I see Lups as a skilled forward with some sandpaper to his game.

Which we are very, very lucky to have.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 25 @ 2:55 PM ET
Okay. Your getting semantic but okay. He's not a power forward cause he didn't drive into and through the defense? And when Nash was drafted as a power forward because of plays like this it really was his "speed and skill"? Its how speed and skill are used that denotes a power forward, it's not fighting - at all, if it was there would be one guy you could call a PF, it is hitting, but not exclusively. Buff was a power forward for the Hawks because of plays just like this one, in the playoffs, net drive combined with speed and skill and a willingness to play a rough game, Lupes isn't as rough as some guys but he doesn't shy away, and his speed and skill are used just like many PF before him.
- aminnes

Power forward denotes a player that hits and uses his strength to play.

poop Wussy Forward these days are guys who can protect the puck and claim they are 6'2 and above.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
When did you guys link fighting with PF? Nash is the typical PF and he doesn't fight!
- aminnes

Nash is a 6'4 softie with ultra skill, put him in Rickus Nasha and he's hated by the hockey world for underachieving.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
Not really. But he scared the crap outta players. Guys wouldn't instigate with him out there.

The question is would Lupul and co. exact the same response?

As much as I love the guy the answer is no. I see Lups as a skilled forward with some sandpaper to his game.

Which we are very, very lucky to have.

- Canadian kid


He scared some guys but there weren't many guys Neely went after to fight, and there games are very similar when you watch Neely. There are some PF's who fight and some who don't. By your criteria every hockey mind out there would be wrong for saying Nash is a PF, no?
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
Nash is a 6'4 softie with ultra skill, put him in Rickus Nasha and he's hated by the hockey world for underachieving.
- AdamFrench


He's considered a PF, by the people in hockey is all I'm saying. If HockeyBuzz chat room is defining PF then yes, Nash is not a PF, if the NHL players and managers are defining PF then he is. All I'm saying.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 25 @ 3:06 PM ET
He's considered a PF, by the people in hockey is all I'm saying. If HockeyBuzz chat room is defining PF then yes, Nash is not a PF, if the NHL players and managers are defining PF then he is. All I'm saying.
- aminnes

Boston loves your definition.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

May 25 @ 3:11 PM ET
He's considered a PF, by the people in hockey is all I'm saying. If HockeyBuzz chat room is defining PF then yes, Nash is not a PF, if the NHL players and managers are defining PF then he is. All I'm saying.
- aminnes




This is a Power Forward by definition.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 25 @ 3:17 PM ET
Can't wait till this guy hits the market and sees what teams are willing to pay for small, soft centres with limited offensive upside. Leafs should let him walk. They'll be fine without him.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 25 @ 3:19 PM ET


This is a Power Forward by definition.

- A_Tree


I hear ya, but if anyone thinks Fransons tough because he roughs up guys like Kane thats poopty. He's a power forward for how he USES his skill and speed, which is similar to other guys.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 25 @ 3:22 PM ET
Boston loves your definition.
- AdamFrench


Lucic fits the definition guys on here are saying, and he is a great PF. He does it all, and he can dominate games when he wants to, much like other PFs. But Lucic lacks in certain areas that other PFs are better at. He hits and fights, and certainly intimidates, but he doesn't score as much any more and isn't going to be a top ten scorer probly ever. So certain PFs do certain things better than others.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 25 @ 3:23 PM ET
Lucic fits the definition guys on here are saying, and he is a great PF. He does it all, and he can dominate games when he wants to, much like other PFs. But Lucic lacks in certain areas that other PFs are better at. He hits and fights, and certainly intimidates, but he doesn't score as much any more and isn't going to be a top ten scorer probly ever. So certain PFs do certain things better than others.
- aminnes

So OV is the only PF left...?
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 25 @ 3:24 PM ET
So OV is the only PF left...?
- AdamFrench


No way! He is one though, and he's another one that doesn't fight. Lucic is probly the best overall PF - when he wants to be.
WafflesAtACC
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: L'eggo my eggo!
Joined: 12.22.2010

May 25 @ 3:45 PM ET
Definitely not worth it, especially with the cap going down.
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears.
Joined: 09.23.2008

May 25 @ 4:00 PM ET
What is the fourth period and who is David Pinata?
Mattjd123
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.01.2009

May 25 @ 4:05 PM ET
So OV is the only PF left...?
- AdamFrench


Bertuzzi was the last true Power Forward...

robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 25 @ 4:26 PM ET
What is the fourth period and who is David Pinata?
- honesthockey




It's a rumor site where things aren't made up.


lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 25 @ 4:35 PM ET
It's a rumor site where things aren't made up.
- robin_steele264


That sir, is an oxymoron
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

May 25 @ 4:36 PM ET
That sir, is an oxymoron
- lumlums

robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 25 @ 4:37 PM ET
That sir, is an oxymoron
- lumlums




I made it up


lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 25 @ 4:49 PM ET
I made it up
- robin_steele264


TROLL!!!!!
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