Lupul and JVR don't fight, but if thats the criteria there aren't any. Maybe Lucic, and thats it. Nash was a PF or at least considered so. JVR isn't a big hitter but he doesn't shy away and goes to the net. Lupul powers by guys wide and drives the net, he went through whole teams this way this year.
- aminnes

This mind set of players thinking they deserve raises simply because their current deals are coming to an end is kinda ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as owners paying it.
- weirdoh

yup. agreed

oh yeah.. his agent wouldnt be doing his job if he didnt.

however.. if they cant get him down to 3.5mill or so.. let him walk. thats the exaxt type of signing that got the leafs into the muskoka 5 mess
- Dozzer

Agreed. I don't want him at that much (rumored $$) but that's where I saw him coming in.

- lumlums

The best "throw in/cap hit" ever.

because you are trying to justify bozak's mediocre abilities as good
- Dozzer

Wait...what?

His abilities are good...... relative to me.

I'm lucky if I get the right skate on each foot
- lumlums

you arent asking to be paid 5.5 million tho

- lumlums

This is what a power forward does, if anyone wants to know.

you arent asking to be paid 5.5 million tho
- Dozzer

Nope. I did find out yesterday that I get a 4% raise though...


Now I make next to nothing as opposed to essentially nothing

Agreed. I don't want him at that much (rumored $$) but that's where I saw him coming in.
- burn

well his agent is likely starting high obviously

but that still means his agent wants 4.5 and no less

still an overpayment

nice part is if his agent tries to use grabo's contract as a basis all nonis has to say is "hey, i didnt sign him, that was burke"

He hits a lot, mixes it up a lot willing to fight.

Kormorov isn't as big.
- burn

Okay true.

Komorov may not be big but he uses his body like a heavy weight.

Nope. I did find out yesterday that I get a 4% raise though...


Now I make next to nothing as opposed to essentially nothing
- lumlums

nice.. 4 point raise is alright

Lupul and JVR don't fight, but if thats the criteria there aren't any. Maybe Lucic, and thats it. Nash was a PF or at least considered so. JVR isn't a big hitter but he doesn't shy away and goes to the net. Lupul powers by guys wide and drives the net, he went through whole teams this way this year.
- aminnes

That's why I said he's debatable. He drives the net and stands there, but he rarely initiates.

Lupul doesn't power past guys, he uses his speed and skill. He deosn't overpower guys. He is most definitely not a PF.

Agreed we don't really know how true the rumor is, but the rest just doesn't make sense. If bozak isn't on the same page as his agent maybe he needs to get a new one.
- burn

Word.

nice.. 4 point raise is alright
- Dozzer

Unless it's 4% of (frank) all...

YOU HIDE BRUCE!!


YOU HIDE!!

YOU HIDE BRUCE!!


YOU HIDE!!
- AdamFrench

wha?

The best "throw in/cap hit" ever.
- weirdoh

Probably one of the worst hockey trades (relatively) in the 21st century.

That's why I said he's debatable. He drives the net and stands there, but he rarely initiates.

Lupul doesn't power past guys, he uses his speed and skill. He deosn't overpower guys. He is most definitely not a PF.
- burn

Okay.

This is what a power forward does, if anyone wants to know.
- aminnes

Not much of a power move in there..... speed a skill.

yup. agreed
- Dozzer

They're not going to give into the pressure. At least I doubt it very much.

Okay true.

Komorov may not be big but he uses his body like a heavy weight.
- A_Tree

Sign that geeedy bastard up! 1.85/yr for 3 years

Love that guy.

Not much of a power move in there..... speed a skill.
- burn

Okay. Your getting semantic but okay. He's not a power forward cause he didn't drive into and through the defense? And when Nash was drafted as a power forward because of plays like this it really was his "speed and skill"? Its how speed and skill are used that denotes a power forward, it's not fighting - at all, if it was there would be one guy you could call a PF, it is hitting, but not exclusively. Buff was a power forward for the Hawks because of plays just like this one, in the playoffs, net drive combined with speed and skill and a willingness to play a rough game, Lupes isn't as rough as some guys but he doesn't shy away, and his speed and skill are used just like many PF before him.

Okay. Your getting semantic but okay. He's not a power forward cause he didn't drive into and through the defense? And when Nash was drafted as a power forward because of plays like this it really was his "speed and skill"? Its how speed and skill are used that denotes a power forward, it's not fighting - at all, if it was there would be one guy you could call a PF, it is hitting, but not exclusively. Buff was a power forward for the Hawks because of plays just like this one, in the playoffs, net drive combined with speed and skill and a willingness to play a rough game, Lupes isn't as rough as some guys but he doesn't shy away, and his speed and skill are used just like many PF before him.
- aminnes

Buff didn't make moves like that!!


To me a PF has to overpower guys. Impose his physical will on them. Use his size and strength. Lupul doesn't do that. Lupul is a speed/skill guy, not a PF.

Buff didn't make moves like that!!


To me a PF has to overpower guys. Impose his physical will on them. Use his size and strength. Lupul doesn't do that. Lupul is a speed/skill guy, not a PF.
- burn

when was the last time lupul dropped the gloves?

i cant remember either.. and power forwards fight.. with some frequency

lupul is not a physical enough player to be considered a power forward

when was the last time lupul dropped the gloves?

i cant remember either.. and power forwards fight.. with some frequency

lupul is not a physical enough player to be considered a power forward
- Dozzer

O.K.Subban, last year I think.