I don't get it either
- sbroads24

It especially doesn't makes sense seeing as how Rolston had Girgensons at the wing. This is a guy who's made his name thus far in development. He, of all people, should understand how much of a difference this could make to a young player.

It especially doesn't makes sense seeing as how Rolston had Girgensons at the wing. This is a guy who's made his name thus far in development. He, of all people, should understand how much of a difference this could make to a young player.
- HonkFortheGoose

The wing normally (I say normally because there are some bizarro systems out there where it can be different) has far fewer responsibilities than the center position. That's why it's not uncommon for centers to start out on the wing in the NHL. It's an easing in process. Get the kid used to the speed and nuances of the NHL game by giving him less to think about. As he progresses and mature, then give him the added responsibilities of a center.

The wing normally (I say normally because there are some bizarro systems out there where it can be different) has far fewer responsibilities than the center position. That's why it's not uncommon for centers to start out on the wing in the NHL. It's an easing in process. Get the kid used to the speed and nuances of the NHL game by giving him less to think about. As he progresses and mature, then give him the added responsibilities of a center.
- buffalofan19

Right. I just don't get why they would do it with Girgensons but not Grigorenko.

Right. I just don't get why they would do it with Girgensons but not Grigorenko.
- HonkFortheGoose

Personally, it was all a matter of confidence. For his first 20 games, I think he was absolutely terrified of making a mistake. Too hesitant the full 200 feet. He was always looking to pass no matter where he was on the ice. Always looked like a deer in headlights. Over thinking it too much.

The last 2-3 games he played, he started carrying the puck up the ice, driving the net, taking shots, moving around. I can remember like 2-3 prime scoring chances where he hit the post or the goalie made the save. Yeah he still has a lot to work in the physical department. I dont expect him to be hitting people like Foligno, Ott and Kaleta, but I at least expect him to engage physical battles by protecting himself and not shy away from it, like Malkin.

Personally, it was all a matter of confidence. For his first 20 games, I think he was absolutely terrified of making a mistake. Too hesitant the full 200 feet. He was always looking to pass no matter where he was on the ice. Always looked like a deer in headlights. Over thinking it too much.

The last 2-3 games he played, he started carrying the puck up the ice, driving the net, taking shots, moving around. I can remember like 2-3 prime scoring chances where he hit the post or the goalie made the save. Yeah he still has a lot to work in the physical department. I dont expect him to be hitting people like Foligno, Ott and Kaleta, but I at least expect him to engage physical battles by protecting himself and not shy away from it, like Malkin.
- theblueandgold

Was he the center those last 2-3 games though or were they using him on the wing? I feel like he was on the wing, but I wasn't playing that close of attention. Those were the games they were experimenting with Foligno at center.

Was he the center those last 2-3 games though or were they using him on the wing? I feel like he was on the wing, but I wasn't playing that close of attention. Those were the games they were experimenting with Foligno at center.
- HonkFortheGoose

Im positive I recall him playing center.

Leftwinglock.com has his linemates in the final 3 games at:

58% Hecht-Ott-Grigorenko
28% Stafford-Grigorenko-Hecht
3% Vanek-Grigorenko-Hecht.

I know Ott didnt play the center role (defensively). Looking at faceoffs, Grigo took 15,8,7 respectively, so I think Ott just ended up taking faceoffs.

I just watched highlights on Sabres.com real quick to see if any of them showed, and both in the NYI and PIT game its pretty clear that Grigorenko was the center of the Hecht-Grigorenko-Ott line that was 58% of his line combo his final 3 games.

Multiple highlights show him either back checking into the center role or breaking out from the center role.

I just watched highlights on Sabres.com real quick to see if any of them showed, and both in the NYI and PIT game its pretty clear that Grigorenko was the center of the Hecht-Grigorenko-Ott line that was 58% of his line combo his final 3 games.

Multiple highlights show him either back checking into the center role or breaking out from the center role.
- theblueandgold

Thanks.

I just hope he can come into camp this year and really prove he belongs here. I don't think having him go back to Jr for another year is even remotely beneficial at this point, especially since the coach he's been playing under isn't going to be there anymore either.

Right. I just don't get why they would do it with Girgensons but not Grigorenko.
- HonkFortheGoose

Because Girgensons is projected to be a winger and is obviously behind in skill where Grigorenko center is his natural position.

up late, did mom approve?
- homiedclown

Because Girgensons is projected to be a winger and is obviously behind in skill where Grigorenko center is his natural position.
- toddkac

They were both centers that had previously experimented on the wing with their junior clubs. Girgensons wasn't projected to be a winger, but he molded nicely to that area.

They were both centers that had previously experimented on the wing with their junior clubs. Girgensons wasn't projected to be a winger, but he molded nicely to that area.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

Actually he was from day one with Rochester. I know they WERE both centers. Read the scouting reports and watch the regier and ruff interviews....

Actually he was from day one. I know they WERE both centers. Read the scouting reports and watch the regier and ruff interviews....
- toddkac

No, Girgensons was not a winger from day 1. At all. He transitioned from C to LW. He wasn't a LW the whole time.









(Now's about the time when you do your usual "you know nothing about hockey" skit.)

No, Girgensons was not a winger from day 1. At all. He transitioned from C to LW. He wasn't a LW the whole time.









(Now's about the time when you do your usual "you know nothing about hockey" skit.)
- LetsGoBuffalo75

I am talking about with Rochester.....

PS. I don´t need to tell you....I listen to Regier say they will play him as a winger....you just look at the C beside his name on a web page and think....hmmmmm center.

No, Girgensons was not a winger from day 1. At all. He transitioned from C to LW. He wasn't a LW the whole time.









(Now's about the time when you do your usual "you know nothing about hockey" skit.)
- LetsGoBuffalo75

Don't forget to add these

No, Girgensons was not a winger from day 1. At all. He transitioned from C to LW. He wasn't a LW the whole time.









(Now's about the time when you do your usual "you know nothing about hockey" skit.)
- LetsGoBuffalo75

I will tell you what....if I can find a clip from Ruff or Reiger saying they see him as a winger in the NHL then you never post here again.

If you can find a clip where they say he is not going to be a winger I will never post here again....back it up big boy.

Don't forget to add these

- jochfr

or these

I will tell you what....if I can find a clip from Ruff or Reiger saying they see him as a winger in the NHL then you never post here again.

If you can find a clip where they say he is not going to be a winger I will never post here again....back it up big boy.
- toddkac

Nobody ever said "he'll never be a winger". I don't know why you'd pull that one out of your ass. Ruff/Regeir OBVIOUSLY saw him as a potential winger. That's why they TRANSITIONED him from his natural center position. Holy poop.

And to another reply to another comment from you above, Girgensons was NOT LW from day one for Rochester. He started out at C, and he did mediocre. They switched him to LW and he started play MUCH better. After that, they just ran with him on the wing, and his play kept getting better.

Nobody ever said "he'll never be a winger". I don't know why you'd pull that one out of your ass. Ruff/Regeir OBVIOUSLY saw him as a potential winger. That's why they TRANSITIONED him from his natural center position. Holy poop.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

Too bad the goose was asking about NHL but you jump half way in the conversation.....not interested in the USHL....were talking Grigs and Girgs PRO.

Nobody ever said "he'll never be a winger". I don't know why you'd pull that one out of your ass. Ruff/Regeir OBVIOUSLY saw him as a potential winger. That's why they TRANSITIONED him from his natural center position. Holy poop.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

so don´t want to take the bet then?

Too bad the goose was asking about NHL but you jump half way in the conversation.....not interested in the USHL....were talking Grigs and Girgs PRO.
- toddkac

No, I absolutely did not. I jumped in when you said Girgensons was projected as a LW from the beginning, which is COMPLETELY false.

so don´t want to take the bet then?
- toddkac

Holy (frank)ing Christ, you're clearly just a troll now.

They were both centers that had previously experimented on the wing with their junior clubs. Girgensons wasn't projected to be a winger, but he molded nicely to that area.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

So your original arguement were you try to correct me....Regier and Ruff didn´t go on WGR and say the see him as a winger in the NHL?

I don´t know everything but I know what they said...

Holy (frank)ing Christ, you're clearly just a troll now.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

If I am a troll then why not take the opportunity to get rid of me? Wanting to bet means your a troll? I remember when the word troll actually ment something.

I can say I have never called anyone a troll in the 12 years of my interneting...
disagree with me....troll
leaf fan?.....troll
want to bet.....troll.

You called me a troll that means your a troll..

So your original arguement were you try to correct me....Regier and Ruff didn´t go on WGR and say the see him as a winger in the NHL?

I don´t know everything but I know what they said...
- toddkac

And I never argued against what Ruff and/or Regeir said. Seeing him as a winger like R/R did is completely different from him being projected as a LW. Being projected as a LW is something done by scouting departments come draft time. Regardless of what R/R thought and when they thought it, Girgensons was a projected C that was transitioned completely to LW after mediocre play at C in Rochester.