I'm surprised Bjugstad is the one you would want no interest in Shore, Trocheck, Howden, Knight? I'm not saying I'm really open to trading them but we have a lot of decent size centers and other prospects bjugstad is biggest.
- Crazycaboose

Bjugstad is Olesz 2.0. Have faith in Tallon tho!!! he's our savior lol

I was thinking 4th/5th rounder. IMO Gudbranson desperately needs a change in scenery.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

I think Bjugstad is overrated and I'm not so big on Gudbranson either but I agree a change of scenery would help.

Personally I'd take Howden or Grimaldi before Bjugstad.

no he doesn't. I wouldn't trade him only because young dmen take time to develop, even tho he's extremely slow, there might still be something there. Def a waste of a 3rd overall draft pick tho, it's sad Fowler goes to the ducks in the mid 20's. Bust of a pick gudy has been up till now.
- BallardHitsHard22

I was actually surprised at his lack of mobility from the few times I've seen him play, I assumed he was a bit faster for such a high pick.

Bjugstad is Olesz 2.0. Have faith in Tallon tho!!! he's our savior lol
- BallardHitsHard22

Can you even give any reason on how you came up with he is Olesz 2.0? Because I want to hear this one!

AV getting fired is no surprise, unless there is a very good return Miller is staying in Buffalo.

AV getting fired is no surprise, unless there is a very good return Miller is staying in Buffalo.
- Thehabsfan93

wrong

I think Bjugstad is overrated and I'm not so big on Gudbranson either but I agree a change of scenery would help.

Personally I'd take Howden or Grimaldi before Bjugstad.
- Sabresfan-365

Just wondering why do you think bjugstad is overrated? Because I would take him over howden or grimaldi any day.

I'm surprised Bjugstad is the one you would want no interest in Shore, Trocheck, Howden, Knight? I'm not saying I'm really open to trading them but we have a lot of decent size centers and other prospects bjugstad is biggest.
- Crazycaboose

I wouldn't say no interest, just that I think we'd be leaning more toward Bjugstad.

I wouldn't say no interest, just that I think we'd be leaning more toward Bjugstad.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

Well of course always shoot for the moon you never know what some gms would part with.

Edit: and the only reason I wouldn't do the offer you said is that both contracts are close to ending both great players but that's a lot of cap to eat and even of vanek resigned it would be 7-8 mill which I don't think the cats would do. For him since we could be losing out on a potential #1 center who is 6'6. and gudbranson who I think will be very good I'm not one to give up on young D men I like a lot about his game.

Kari>miller

Why would we want him

Can you even give any reason on how you came up with he is Olesz 2.0? Because I want to hear this one!
- Crazycaboose

Both big bodies. Both drafted as centers. Both drafted in the 1st round. Both extremely slow, Olesz ended up a bust (something I said the first year he played but of course got killed by ppl like you, ppl that don't see things clearly). Bjugstad isn't worthy of a 1st rounder, neither was Gudt and neither was Howden. Tallon really fudged this one up. I don't need to say anymore, it will be clear to ppl like you in years to come when you watch these kids not produce and miss the playoffs year in and year out.

Bjugstad's the next joe colborne

Just wondering why do you think bjugstad is overrated? Because I would take him over howden or grimaldi any day.
- Crazycaboose

Grimaldi is hit or miss. He's a finisher which would but him ahead of Howden. Ull see. Howden won't last in the NHL either.

Both big bodies. Both drafted as centers. Both drafted in the 1st round. Both extremely slow, Olesz ended up a bust (something I said the first year he played but of course got killed by ppl like you, ppl that don't see things clearly). Bjugstad isn't worthy of a 1st rounder, neither was Gudt and neither was Howden. Tallon really fudged this one up. I don't need to say anymore, it will be clear to ppl like you in years to come when you watch these kids not produce and miss the playoffs year in and year out.
- BallardHitsHard22

Whatever you say big guy you know everything. And know the cats will go no where but yet will still try to say your a fan of the team...

Grimaldi is hit or miss. He's a finisher which would but him ahead of Howden. Ull see. Howden won't last in the NHL either.
- BallardHitsHard22

I really don't give a poop what your opinion is!

Whatever you say big guy you know everything. And know the cats will go no where but yet will still try to say your a fan of the team...
- Crazycaboose

I'm a fan that objects to the direction the team is headed. Sorry, it's a shame Florida media doesn't push and put pressure on them to win. Chicago was different. Places like NY, Boston, they want to win, pressure on them all the time. It's the opposite in South Florida. No one cares about hockey down there, Tallon doesn't get any pressure from media. You don't hear a peep. That's certainly not a good thing. Even the idiot season ticket holders keep their mouths shut. They pay top dollar for a losing product every season. Big woop they got one playoff appearance in over a decade and now back to rock bottom. Keep paying the Yormarks your hard earned money, they really put a product to be proud of out on that ice!!

Whatever you say big guy you know everything. And know the cats will go no where but yet will still try to say your a fan of the team...
- Crazycaboose

I have the right as a fan to be critical. I've seen this rebuilding process fail THREE TIMES since 97, and it's happening again. Sorry you just took an interst in the team what? 5 years ago?? You no nothing if you think this team is headed upward. One great prospect (huby) doesn't account for all the other needs on this team. Sorry to break it to you but I'm only trying to show how and why this organization is failing once again.

I have the right as a fan to be critical. I've seen this rebuilding process fail THREE TIMES since 97, and it's happening again. Sorry you just took an interst in the team what? 5 years ago?? You no nothing if you think this team is headed upward. One great prospect (huby) doesn't account for all the other needs on this team. Sorry to break it to you but I'm only trying to show how and why this organization is failing once again.
- BallardHitsHard22

It's one thing to be critical but you just make a complete ass out of yourself. I know the team has sucked Richard for a long time but I'm not going to let past history affect how I support my team!

It's not going to be over night that we become contenders we got set back almost a decade by kennan and Martian. How about giving Tallon a chance before pooping on every move he does even the one that's haven't been in the NHL for more then 10-20 games or none at all before they are busts. Not everyone can jump right in it takes time.

So Vancouver loses Schneider and gets Miller? How does this make any sense from a Vancouver stand point?
- hankthetank

They should also be getting a pick/prospect...

Hey Lard A S S, you can't keep changing your favorite team. Pick one. Flyers? Leafs? Now Canucks? Did I miss any?
- AL SEC0RD

Nah, that's about it...

Hi weirdoh.
- mhp

Hello old friend...

Miller for Moulson straight up!
- Buffalo--Sabres

Why would the Islanders trade their 2nd leading scorer who happens to be on a good cap deal next year?

God, I hope not!
- Nucker101

You've hung out on our boards enough to know just how much we think Ruff sucks.

I'd rather have nothing than Clemmensen. He was good when he saved New Jersey's ass after the Marty injury. Also, the only good prospect that you guys could give up is Bjugstad (no way you give up Huberdeau)... Not worth it unless there are picks involved.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

Have you researched our prospect pool? Trochek, Howden, Shore, Grimaldi, Matheson, etc...

how do you figure? sounds like you are trying to be smart but you are not.
- toddkac

I was not talking to you. Im not trying to sound smart. I dont think there is a big market for high priced goalies. You little female dog