Man, what a shot there...Wingels had Quick dead to rights. Too bad he hit the post. Can't believe how much he got on a wrister from that far out though.
- UIF

Every series the Kings are in has been exciting. This year and last. I love watching that team. Such exciting hockey.

He just missed winning a cup with that team. He's been in the league for a while and he will be in it for quite a while longer if you ask me. It was a good thing when he came to the Islanders. I figured he'd be the Isles next coach after last season and I wasn't too excited about the idea honestly but between last season and this season I think he's going to make a good coach. I'd be upset if he left but would still be happy for the guy if he did well elsewhere. BTW I don't think they drafted Amonte the same year and who is Rice?
- Cptmjl

No.. they had Amonte & Rice already in the system when they drafted Weight... I just remember those 3 being their 3 cant miss, blue chip prospects, I would hear about them all the damn time... Weight was awesome, Amonte wasnt too shabby & Steven Rice ended up being nothing special but he did net the Rags Messier as he was the "blue chip" that went back in that deal, Nicholes, Debrask & Rice if memory serves me well.
Weight went in the Tikkanen deal
Amonte went in the Noonan & Mattaeu deal

Pretty impressive that those 3 guys won the cup for the Rags.. if you look at it that way.

I still wish they would have won the bidding war for Lindros, they would be 73 without a cup

XxNYIxX

Anybody think there is a chance Lundqvist gets tired of playing for the Rangers and signs with the Brooklyn bound Isles after next year? Man that would be dandy.
Not gonna happen though, I think he is a lifelong Ranger. The guy is all heart but somehow I have to think he is getting sick of putting up huge efforts only to lose because of the lack of heart by some of his teammates. He could sign with the Isles and not have to leave his current Manhattan apartment.
- NewYawkIslandez

there is more of a chance of you winning the Norris!

XxNYIxX

The rangers are equally as boring to watch as the devils . They play a prevent/trap and the pace of the game is dull and boring

reposting since SOMEONE has to suddenly add two posts a day!



I cursed the moment I got home from Virginia that day and had a message from my brother (A Flyer fan) on my machine...it was just him laughing. THat's when I found out Luongo was dealt away. I was devastated. That said, I do understand what Milbury's train of thought was at that time..which I've posted before, but I'll do again because I love the look of my own arial font

Milbury was very big on following the blueprint of the New Jersey Devils. He wanted to change the team over to a full out trap team. The thing that made Jersey's trapping better than other teams was Broduer's ability to move the puck. When you clog up the neutral zone, other teams must dump the puck to establish a forecheck. If you have a fast athletic goaltender capable of passing the puck, he can retrieve the dump in and create transitiion.
Luongo for all the wonderful things he was projected to be was one of the worst goalies there were at actually handling the puck. So Milbury, in his own insane sort of way, dealt away a franchise goaltender, for what he thought was another franchise goaltender capable of playing in the only system that was consistently winniing during the clutch and grab era. Unfortunately for MM, the rule changes of 2004 changed the league and that vision went to crap along with DP's hip.

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- keaner17

The problem is DiPietro was never worth the stink in Brodeur's glove, not EVER. That said, my problem wasn't trading Luongo, it was the garbage we got in return.....and we threw in Olli Jokinen, who, like or hate him, was every bit as good and useful as Parrish, and probably for a longer period of time. This means Milbury traded Luongo STRAIGHT UP for Oleg Kvasha. Just reading that makes me want to spew my breakfast. A franchise goaltender STRAIGHT UP, for quite possibly the most useless, lazy, stupid hockey player I have ever seen in my life.

Oh, and Milbury's teams did not "improve", not ever. Over one off-season, Milbury mortgaged our entire future to get enough veteran players to be mediocre, and over the next four years, they went backward, and then stayed in that spot- the first round practice team for one of the contenders. They were boring and predictable, "made the playoffs" and did nothing, and he drafted cr*p with his middling picks, while other teams were drafting Parise, Carter, Richards, etc. "Improvement" is not a word I'd use to describe anything Milbury did.

The rangers are equally as boring to watch as the devils . They play a prevent/trap and the pace of the game is dull and boring
- Danformo

The problem with them is that they are SLOOOOOWWWWWW. Zuccarello and Hagelin are so much faster than the rest of them that they have no idea how to even get the puck to them. The Bruins essentially play the same game they do- they're just bigger, stronger AND faster (how it took them so long to beat the Loafs, I have no idea). This series thus far has been like one team showing the other how it's done, when you do it correctly. If Biron was playing net for the rag$, they'd not only lose, they'd be getting buried every night.

Anyone not an Islanders fan doesn't even know how to pronounce "Joensuu"...I wouldn't put much stock in anything they say. They were just trying to find some reason...any reason...to explain the Islanders. "Must be the coach" is an easy out for them.

Second winningest coach isn't much of an accomplishment when you look at the competition...the only good coaches were here for a cup of coffee. But man, I'm shocked he was able to surpass the brilliant hockey mind that is Steve Stirling


I do agree that he seems well-liked. And I give him credit for finding a message that the players bought into. He's an awful in-game coach though, and his instincts aren't much better. This is the guy who was positive Reasoner was going to justify his spot in the lineup for game 1. The only thing of note he did was try to knee-on-knee someone...and he couldn't even do that right.

Worst coach ever? Nah, he rises above that on the strength of his motivation skills. But worthy of a defense from X for keeping his job? Nope.

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- UIF

Cappy is not a great coach. But, he did coach this team into the playoffs when everyone thought this was a lottery team again. The team turned it on in the last six weeks of the season and performed well in the playoffs. This all occurred with Cappy running the show. There is no way Cappy isn't brough back on at least a 2-3 year deal.

Anybody think there is a chance Lundqvist gets tired of playing for the Rangers and signs with the Brooklyn bound Isles after next year? Man that would be dandy.
Not gonna happen though, I think he is a lifelong Ranger. The guy is all heart but somehow I have to think he is getting sick of putting up huge efforts only to lose because of the lack of heart by some of his teammates. He could sign with the Isles and not have to leave his current Manhattan apartment.
- NewYawkIslandez

Anything is possible, I mean Wayne Gretzky was traded. Twice. That being said, Lundqvist retires a Ranger. I can't see him being moved or wanting out of NY.

same buddy I hear most from

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- XxNYIxX

Not to be a d**k, but is the guy telling you about the Cappy extension the same guy who told you that the Isles weren't leaving Nassau and wouldn't move to Brooklyn under any circumstance other than a short-term arrangement?

The rangers are equally as boring to watch as the devils . They play a prevent/trap and the pace of the game is dull and boring
- Danformo

Yeah, they play a pretty boring game.

The problem is DiPietro was never worth the stink in Brodeur's glove, not EVER. That said, my problem wasn't trading Luongo, it was the garbage we got in return.....and we threw in Olli Jokinen, who, like or hate him, was every bit as good and useful as Parrish, and probably for a longer period of time. This means Milbury traded Luongo STRAIGHT UP for Oleg Kvasha. Just reading that makes me want to spew my breakfast. A franchise goaltender STRAIGHT UP, for quite possibly the most useless, lazy, stupid hockey player I have ever seen in my life.

Oh, and Milbury's teams did not "improve", not ever. Over one off-season, Milbury mortgaged our entire future to get enough veteran players to be mediocre, and over the next four years, they went backward, and then stayed in that spot- the first round practice team for one of the contenders. They were boring and predictable, "made the playoffs" and did nothing, and he drafted cr*p with his middling picks, while other teams were drafting Parise, Carter, Richards, etc. "Improvement" is not a word I'd use to describe anything Milbury did.

- dcb1

Understand, I'm not defending the trade, just providing a bit of rationalization that I think has gotten lost over the years. Jokinen was a very unpolished player, much like Joensuu now. In his one season with us, Jokinen put up 11 goals and 10 assists in 82 games. In fact, he didn't break 10 goals over his next two seasons in Florida. Meanwhile, Parrish had scored 24 and 26 goals in his first two seasons before being traded to us. He then scored 118 goals for us over the next 5 seasons. So while I would have rather kept Jokinen, that portion of the trade wasn't quite as bad as many remember...Kvasha on the other hand. Plenty of talent...NO DESIRE. Making Yashin his inspiration would be like choosing Lindsay Lohan as an AA sponser.
With DP, it's all hindsight now. For one season he showed us some pretty good play to the point that when he got his concussion against Montreal, folks were immediately saying the season was over due to his loss. Of course at the time of the trade, it was about skillset and potential, which Rick had plenty. My biggest issue was that he had really yet to prove anything since his only experience was a freshman season in Boston. I'll still say he was ruined by terrible coaching and was in heavy need of an iron-fisted coach.
As for the bolded part, I don't think many people were calling us boring and predictable in that 2001 season. That team had a good bit of personality and one wicked playoff series. Of course this is my point, Milbury was bad and made some God-Awful trades, but those trades seem to become worse to the memory with every year that passes.

I just pray that Wang uses his brain for once and signs Captain Jack to one year. Let us see how great he is in a long season. It could be possible the players like playing for him since he hardly teaches them and lets them learn on your own. Country Club

I just pray that Wang uses his brain for once and signs Captain Jack to one year. Let us see how great he is in a long season. It could be possible the players like playing for him since he hardly teaches them and lets them learn on your own. Country Club
- kasperrko

Well, I will say this, coaches are signed to longer contracts than their actual terms all the time. So even if he signs a three year deal, he could be fired at the end of the year if it were a colossal fail.

I just pray that Wang uses his brain for once and signs Captain Jack to one year. Let us see how great he is in a long season. It could be possible the players like playing for him since he hardly teaches them and lets them learn on your own. Country Club
- kasperrko

nope

nope
- Cptmjl

I just don't get it and this is what I hate about this organization. In half a season he gets the team to the playoffs. He has proved nothing during an 82 year season. I mean lets be honest here. The Columbus Blue Jackets almost made it. I don't know what this team would have done with a full season but knowing the Islanders and Captain Jacks track record I honestly feel they would not have made it. The Islanders did play real well towards the end but it was still in reach. a full season not so. I just think they should sign him to a year and be smart. He takes them back next year then he should get a big contract. This year pretty much a lot of teams got a bye in a short season

Cappy is not a great coach. But, he did coach this team into the playoffs when everyone thought this was a lotter team again. The team turned it on in the last six weeks of the season and performed well in the playoffs. This all occurred with Cappy running the show. There is no way Cappy isn't brough back on at least a 2-3 year deal.
- Jethro09

I think there's probably something to the Cappy-Thompson-Weight trio that works. I'm not sure if Thompson is more of a tactical coach or not, but he seems to see things in-game as he's constantly talking off Capuano's ear (I feel like sometimes it looks as though Cappy wants to throw him into the stands). Weight appears to bring a lot of the fire and expertise on offense/power play. Capuano appears to be the one that ties it all together and reinforces an overall message and gets the players to believe.

I have no idea if that's how it all really works, just what it looks like to me watching the games and the coaches. If it actually is a situation like that...where the sum of the parts are greater than the whole...then I hope they keep all three guys right where they are at least in the near term. Let's see if the team can work some magic again next season.

EDIT -- I better fix my mistake on the overused saying before LGI sees it!...the whole is greater than the sum of the parts

I just don't get it and this is what I hate about this organization. In half a season he gets the team to the playoffs. He has proved nothing during an 82 year season. I mean lets be honest here. The Columbus Blue Jackets almost made it. I don't know what this team would have done with a full season but knowing the Islanders and Captain Jacks track record I honestly feel they would not have made it. The Islanders did play real well towards the end but it was still in reach. a full season not so. I just think they should sign him to a year and be smart. He takes them back next year then he should get a big contract. This year pretty much a lot of teams got a bye in a short season
- kasperrko

I don't like Capuano as our coach. I have no idea why he was our coach this year after last season? He prob makes some of the worst decisions I've seen a coach make. Every single one of us on here will say he's making another horrible decision which will be followed by us being proven right. Now how can EVERY single poster on an Islanders thread be right about a decision he's making with a team he actually knows and he be wrong? To me it's mind boggling. Making the playoffs or not this past season doesn't change the FACT that Capuano is just not a good coach. I'll stand by my belief that this team performed the way it did in spite of him.

I think there's probably something to the Cappy-Thompson-Weight trio that works. I'm not sure if Thompson is more of a tactical coach or not, but he seems to see things in-game as he's constantly talking off Capuano's ear (I feel like sometimes it looks as though Cappy wants to throw him into the stands). Weight appears to the bring a lot of the fire and expertise on offense/power play. Capuano appears to be the one that ties it all together and reinforces an overall message and gets the players to believe.

I have no idea if that's how it all really works, just what it looks like to me watching the games and the coaches. If it actually is a situation like that...where the sum of the parts are greater than the whole...then I hope they keep all three guys right where they are at least in the near term. Let's see if the team can work some magic again next season.
- UIF

I believe this is the part that's working

I think there's probably something to the Cappy-Thompson-Weight trio that works. I'm not sure if Thompson is more of a tactical coach or not, but he seems to see things in-game as he's constantly talking off Capuano's ear (I feel like sometimes it looks as though Cappy wants to throw him into the stands). Weight appears to bring a lot of the fire and expertise on offense/power play. Capuano appears to be the one that ties it all together and reinforces an overall message and gets the players to believe.

I have no idea if that's how it all really works, just what it looks like to me watching the games and the coaches. If it actually is a situation like that...where the sum of the parts are greater than the whole...then I hope they keep all three guys right where they are at least in the near term. Let's see if the team can work some magic again next season.

EDIT -- I better fix my mistake on the overused saying before LGI sees it!...the whole is greater than the sum of the parts
- UIF

I have a feeling that Weight will be finding a team of his own to coach, that's the one part we don't want to lose. That would leave us with Thompson and Capuano who together don't have the intellect to match up against a chimp. Where is my new pal LGI?

I believe this is the part that's working
- Cptmjl

There is an article on IPB this morning about University of Maine looking to pull Cappy as their head coach. Not sure if I am in the minority here but I would be thrilled if he left. I just dont buy into the "Cappy got us into the playoffs" gig. Some of his decisions leave me scratcing my head and he totoally misuses players, ala Grabs. Would love for this guy to move onto Maine and to give Weight a shot. He is a well respected guy in the league and has had a lot of success in the NHL. He has been an assistant for 2 years now, why not give him a shot?

There is an article on IPB this morning about University of Maine looking to pull Cappy as their head coach. Not sure if I am in the minority here but I would be thrilled if he left. I just dont buy into the "Cappy got us into the playoffs" gig. Some of his decisions leave me scratcing my head and he totoally misuses players, ala Grabs. Would love for this guy to move onto Maine and to give Weight a shot. He is a well respected guy in the league and has had a lot of success in the NHL. He has been an assistant for 2 years now, why not give him a shot?
- NewYawkIslandez

I think most people agree with this entire post.

I think most people agree with this entire post.
- Cptmjl

Yup, lets hope Snow does too. Doubtful though.

Yup, lets hope Snow does too. Doubtful though.
- NewYawkIslandez

not happening

There is an article on IPB this morning about University of Maine looking to pull Cappy as their head coach. Not sure if I am in the minority here but I would be thrilled if he left. I just dont buy into the "Cappy got us into the playoffs" gig. Some of his decisions leave me scratcing my head and he totoally misuses players, ala Grabs. Would love for this guy to move onto Maine and to give Weight a shot. He is a well respected guy in the league and has had a lot of success in the NHL. He has been an assistant for 2 years now, why not give him a shot?
- NewYawkIslandez

OH GOD!! I would be jubilant!! He should go he is better off coaching college since he has no NHL knowledge. I agree Thompson and WEight ran this team last year. They are the motivators and are always giving interviews from the heart where Cappy says the same thing over and over again

OH GOD!! I would be jubilant!! He should go he is better off coaching college since he has no NHL knowledge. I agree Thompson and WEight ran this team last year. They are the motivators and are always giving interviews from the heart where Cappy says the same thing over and over again
- kasperrko