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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
If you're going to hate on someone, hate on Malkin- he is solely to blame for that goal. That Michalek pass went through 3 Pittsburgh bodies, and Malkin stepped off of his post at LW, leaving his man wide open.
- Jordo

he is culprit number one for lack of a defensive awareness. but then again, if they want to play a passive defensive style there for the last thirty seconds, he should not be out there.
Jordo
Ottawa Senators
Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON
Joined: 06.27.2007

May 21 @ 4:02 PM ET
hell of a seam pass and redirection, ill give you that. however, it still should not have been even feasible given the circumstances. christ, even a semblance of back checking or defensive awareness could have made up for the fact that they had no idea what they were supposed to be doing out there
- stayinthefnnet


Maybe, but I don't think that's on Bylsma. Hard to imagine your players aren't focused with a PP and 1:45 left to go- especially when those players are all arguably your top players at their respective positions. They probably underestimated Ottawa's ability to close.

Bet they don't do that again.
Killian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Germantown, MD
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 21 @ 4:11 PM ET
Maybe, but I don't think that's on Bylsma. Hard to imagine your players aren't focused with a PP and 1:45 left to go- especially when those players are all arguably your top players at their respective positions. They probably underestimated Ottawa's ability to close.

Bet they don't do that again.

- Jordo


It was on Bylsma. He should've never had a PP unit out there (if the intention was to protect the lead). Letang/Martin were fine...but would've liked to see the normal pairing of Orpik/Martin along with Dupuis/Sutter/Cooke
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 4:13 PM ET
Maybe, but I don't think that's on Bylsma. Hard to imagine your players aren't focused with a PP and 1:45 left to go- especially when those players are all arguably your top players at their respective positions. They probably underestimated Ottawa's ability to close.

Bet they don't do that again.

- Jordo

certainly the players poop all over themselves. however, what falls on the coach is the mismatch of what the intended style of play was supposed to be and the player that were put out there. if you wanted to attack, put that group out there. if you wanted to play prevent, put in a different crew. still doesnt excuse the severe retardation by the guys on the ice, but still. there is blame to be placed on danny b
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

May 21 @ 4:31 PM ET
Wow, no respect. It's not like Pittsburgh pulled Vokoun and scored on their own net. We can agree that Pitts made some bad plays at the end of the game, but give your opponent a little more respect than that, get off your pedestal.

Both goalies stood on their heads, a few bounces either way and this game never gets to OT, or double OT- and that can be said for both sides.

Just be happy we get to see more games between these two- so far they've been great.

- Jordo


It's not about disrespect. We just feel if they would've ran their PP then it's 3-0. It was a bad plan and you guys are offended because we believe it would be 3-0 if not for it.
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

May 21 @ 7:33 PM ET
It's not about disrespect. We just feel if they would've ran their PP then it's 3-0. It was a bad plan and you guys are offended because we believe it would be 3-0 if not for it.
- lloyd095


Yeah man. I give Ottawa tons of respect. You just don't give up a shorty EVER in the last minute. To be in that position Ottawa had to play great and they did.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

May 21 @ 9:36 PM ET
I heard Vitale and Jokinen were working on the lines today. I hope they play next game. We need them!
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

May 21 @ 10:15 PM ET
Rags are toast. Refs still didn't give the visiting team a PP at MSG, but the Bruins didn't need one.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 21 @ 10:18 PM ET
Gutless performance from the rags tonight. Boston putting them to sleep pretty easily in this series. Funny how they're getting good contributions from young players but disco doesn't dare trust Despres.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 21 @ 10:38 PM ET
Kunitz Crosby Dupuis
Bennett Malkin Neil
Morrow Jokinen Iginla
Cooke Sutter Adams
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

May 21 @ 11:00 PM ET
Gutless performance from the rags tonight. Boston putting them to sleep pretty easily in this series. Funny how they're getting good contributions from young players but disco doesn't dare trust Despres.
- madmike71


Rags really limited offensively (partially self-inflicted by their knucklehead coach), not much ability to expose Boston's injuries on the back end. Agree that Depres should probably be playing for Pens, though.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 11:09 PM ET
Rags really limited offensively (partially self-inflicted by their knucklehead coach), not much ability to expose Boston's injuries on the back end. Agree that Depres should probably be playing for Pens, though.
- MadCap2008

richards seems to be a shell of his former shelf. too many good players on the rangers to be this bad. something has to give.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

May 21 @ 11:16 PM ET
richards seems to be a shell of his former shelf. too many good players on the rangers to be this bad. something has to give.
- stayinthefnnet


How much is he stealing from the Rags with that contract? He hasn't been the answer in NY.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

May 21 @ 11:36 PM ET
Top PP Line at Practice

14 87 71
18 58

2nd Unit

9 36 48
12 7

- Killian

someone explain it to me. please. someone do it.

how an entire message board can see the problems, but the coach refuses to fix it is just unbelievable. even torts isn't this stubborn or arrogant. truly unbelievable that this man will cost us a Cup.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

May 21 @ 11:36 PM ET
Dupuis-Crosby-Iginla
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Morrow-Jokinen-Adams

not that hard gentlemen...
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 21 @ 11:39 PM ET
Maybe, but I don't think that's on Bylsma. Hard to imagine your players aren't focused with a PP and 1:45 left to go- especially when those players are all arguably your top players at their respective positions. They probably underestimated Ottawa's ability to close.

Bet they don't do that again.

- Jordo


It's certainly on Bylsma. His fault we lost due to an idiotic mistake.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 21 @ 11:41 PM ET
Gutless performance from the rags tonight. Boston putting them to sleep pretty easily in this series. Funny how they're getting good contributions from young players but disco doesn't dare trust Despres.
- madmike71



I will tell you what, Boston's fourth line is the best in the business and its not close. That said, the Rags suck. Nash, Richards an absolute zero in the play-offs.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 11:57 PM ET
I will tell you what, Boston's fourth line is the best in the business and its not close. That said, the Rags suck. Nash, Richards an absolute zero in the play-offs.
- Oneonta Penguin

richards i cant explain how bad he is. its embarrassing. he may be done. and ive long been a supporter or rick nash, and thought he had a good regular season, but he was pretty houdini like these playoffs.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

May 22 @ 12:03 AM ET
Dupuis-Crosby-Iginla
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Morrow-Jokinen-Adams

not that hard gentlemen...

- SuperHenderson13

Agree with all the players put on the ice. Just would pair Adams with Cooke/Sutter and TK with Morrow/Jokinen. Done for me. Go beat some senators now
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

May 22 @ 12:08 AM ET
richards i cant explain how bad he is. its embarrassing. he may be done. and ive long been a supporter or rick nash, and thought he had a good regular season, but he was pretty houdini like these playoffs.
- stayinthefnnet

Hard to believe B.Richards is done. He's a great player...just need to get away from Tortorella. Btw, the Rags better run away from him, FAST
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 22 @ 8:35 AM ET
Hard to believe B.Richards is done. He's a great player...just need to get away from Tortorella. Btw, the Rags better run away from him, FAST
- Orpik44


It's odd that he put up good numbers under Torts in Tampa Bay, and was the leader of a Cup winning team (and Conn Smyth winner).

Obviously Torts' system has changed greatly from the "safe is death" days, but you'd think Richards would at least look like an NHL player.

Torts has taken any and all creativity out of his players. Their whole approach is play defense, block shots, and hope to get a goal on a 3 on 2 coming back. Players who play a straight, north/south type game do ok, but anyone who wants to create is doomed.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 22 @ 9:44 AM ET
Boston is playing great hockey. If we get through Ottawa, this team better get their sh*t together quickly. All the mental errors and poor personnel decisions won't fly against them.
Killian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Germantown, MD
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 22 @ 10:03 AM ET
Boston is playing great hockey. If we get through Ottawa, this team better get their sh*t together quickly. All the mental errors and poor personnel decisions won't fly against them.
- madmike71


Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

May 22 @ 10:11 AM ET
It's odd that he put up good numbers under Torts in Tampa Bay, and was the leader of a Cup winning team (and Conn Smyth winner).

Obviously Torts' system has changed greatly from the "safe is death" days, but you'd think Richards would at least look like an NHL player.

Torts has taken any and all creativity out of his players. Their whole approach is play defense, block shots, and hope to get a goal on a 3 on 2 coming back. Players who play a straight, north/south type game do ok, but anyone who wants to create is doomed.

- rival22


You won't create 3 on 2's when all of your players are sagged down low. They can't get up ice quick enough and will never generate odd man rushes. Further damning them is the fact that the Bruins are one of the best teams at backchecking through the neutral zone and limiting odd man rushes as it is. Rangers system couldn't be more doomed to fail against the Bruins if they tried.
Killian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Germantown, MD
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 22 @ 10:15 AM ET
I have a feeling Torts time is up

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