oh christ....
- stayinthefnnet

The good news is that means Jussi is back in the fold.

Morrow left the ice early at practice...is working out with the athletic trainer

Morrow left the ice early at practice...is working out with the athletic trainer
- Killian

Don't like that at all.
Maybe, he is, at dare I say it; only at 70%!!!!!

The good news is that means Jussi is back in the fold.
- nbartley9

i realize practice lines dont guarantee game lines, but that powerplay is absolutely retarded on so many levels.

Pens lines today:

14 87 9
18 71 12 (they did swap)
24 14 48 (morrow left practice)
15 36 27

44 7
58 2
3 4

92

i realize practice lines dont guarantee game lines, but that powerplay is absolutely retarded on so many levels.
- stayinthefnnet

Yeah it sure is.

Yeah it sure is.
- nbartley9

it screams just rape us short handed. it also means neal will be essentially useless back there. guy scores like 20 goals a year in the slot on the powerplay, yeah put him in the back. iginla's only contribution has been his point shot. why would we want him back there? i realize the change just for the sake of change, but at least think about it a little bit first guys

it screams just rape us short handed. it also means neal will be essentially useless back there. guy scores like 20 goals a year in the slot on the powerplay, yeah put him in the back. iginla's only contribution has been his point shot. why would we want him back there? i realize the change just for the sake of change, but at least think about it a little bit first guys
- stayinthefnnet

Yeah but to be honest Martin has been very solid he makes me worry very little when he is on the ice in any situation.

^ THIS
- TheRat14

Flyer fans wish they had our problems. It's been a long time since you won the Cup if I recall.

Throw him in antartica?
- Oilers4Life14

Antartica wouldn't want him.

Yeah but to be honest Martin has been very solid he makes me worry very little when he is on the ice in any situation.
- nbartley9

i feel that as well, but he is missing from the ice in that arrangement. neal and letang back there at the same time is very worrisome. not only that, but i just think its a waste of neal back there in the first place. hes not a rip it from the point type guy, nor exactly known as a playmaker. i dont know what he can do back there except get beat short handed. at least when iggy is back there, other teams must respect the threat of his blast.

Flyer fans wish they had our problems. It's been a long time since you won the Cup if I recall.
- Oneonta Penguin

I don't recall..maybe that's because it hasn't happened in my lifetime

Ottawa fans are delusional. They've won a game because we GAVE IT away. We were dumb.

I'm still mad at Bylsma & Co.
- Orpik44

Wow, no respect. It's not like Pittsburgh pulled Vokoun and scored on their own net. We can agree that Pitts made some bad plays at the end of the game, but give your opponent a little more respect than that, get off your pedestal.

Both goalies stood on their heads, a few bounces either way and this game never gets to OT, or double OT- and that can be said for both sides.

Just be happy we get to see more games between these two- so far they've been great.

Wow, no respect. It's not like Pittsburgh pulled Vokoun and scored on their own net. We can agree that Pitts made some bad plays at the end of the game, but give your opponent a little more respect than that, get off your pedestal.

Both goalies stood on their heads, a few bounces either way and this game never gets to OT, or double OT- and that can be said for both sides.

Just be happy we get to see more games between these two- so far they've been great.
- Jordo

the pens did give it away at the end. there is no way you can deny that. however, the game should have ended 1-0. how someone can look at that and say that either side drastically outplayed the other is beyond me

the pens did give it away at the end. there is no way you can deny that. however, the game should have ended 1-0. how someone can look at that and say that either side drastically outplayed the other is beyond me
- stayinthefnnet

Correction: Vokoun should've scored on the empty net and it should've ended 2-0 pens

the pens did give it away at the end. there is no way you can deny that. however, the game should have ended 1-0. how someone can look at that and say that either side drastically outplayed the other is beyond me
- stayinthefnnet

I guess we have different definitions of "give it away". Pittsburgh sat back and Ottawa attacked. One team outworked the other. Not surprisingly that resulted in a goal for the attacking team.

By your definition, I suppose Ottawa "gave away" the first game.

I guess we have different definitions of "give it away". Pittsburgh sat back and Ottawa attacked. One team outworked the other. Not surprisingly that resulted in a goal for the attacking team.

By your definition, I suppose Ottawa "gave away" the first game.
- Jordo

I think by "give it away" he meant that with 1 minute left and a power play for the remainder of the game, there is no reason why the penguins should've allowed ottawa to tie the game.

I think by "give it away" he meant that with 1 minute left and a power play for the remainder of the game, there is no reason why the penguins should've allowed ottawa to tie the game.
- Killian

Totally agree with that- but the initial poster who said that Ottawa fans were delusional, and essentially gave the Sens team zero credit for pulling that victory off was out to lunch. This is what they've been doing all year- they never quit.

Wow, no respect. It's not like Pittsburgh pulled Vokoun and scored on their own net. We can agree that Pitts made some bad plays at the end of the game, but give your opponent a little more respect than that, get off your pedestal.

Both goalies stood on their heads, a few bounces either way and this game never gets to OT, or double OT- and that can be said for both sides.

Just be happy we get to see more games between these two- so far they've been great.
- Jordo

When a game ends like that, an egregious error by a head coach on the power play with 1:29 left in regulation in the play-offs in game three with a 2-0 game lead and with the second best power play in the world, I can't give much credit. What credit is there to give? The game was blown away by that error. It wasn't a turnover either.

I'm sorry, I can't give credit to a game that was tanked on a ridiculous error in judgment by a head coach. Sorry.

Totally agree with that- but the initial poster who said that Ottawa fans were delusional, and essentially gave the Sens team zero credit for pulling that victory off was out to lunch. This is what they've been doing all year- they never quit.
- Jordo

yeah thats my point. with the way the game stood with a minute left, the pens one hundred percent gave it away. i dont care how much you hustle in that minute, no team should lose it like that. however, for the other 59 minutes of the game, it was essentially a coin toss that had landed in the pens favor. tons of shots and saves, but really very few quality chances. the game was up for grabs by anyone. but once the pens did have it, yes, they gave it away at the end.

When a game ends like that, an egregious error by a head coach on the power play with 1:29 left in regulation in the play-offs in game three with a 2-0 game lead and with the second best power play in the world, I can't give much credit. What credit is there to give? The game was blown away by that error. It wasn't a turnover either.
- Oneonta Penguin

i give the sens credit for a lot of things in that game. having the pens go 0 for 6 on the powerplays, holding crosby continuously to the outside, anderson making big saves, hanging in against the pens and only surrendering a single goal. the game was up for grabs in its entirety. however, everything in that final minute is about what the pens did/did not do as opposed to what the sens did do.

It wasn't totally his fault, but as much as the guys love him, he lost them in that last game. You could see it on their faces, after two different soft goals, I saw both Craig Adams and Brooks Orpik (both great team guys) just drop their shoulders and look up to the sky, like "ahhhh... not again..." They had lost their confidence in him.

I like Fleury A LOT, but you can't give him a charity chance in the playoffs just to see if he can redeem himself. Unless Vokoun puts a couple bad games together, you need to stick with him, he gives you the best chance to win right now.
- rival22[/quote]

This!!!

When a game ends like that, an egregious error by a head coach on the power play with 1:29 left in regulation in the play-offs in game three with a 2-0 game lead and with the second best power play in the world, I can't give much credit. What credit is there to give? The game was blown away by that error. It wasn't a turnover either.

I'm sorry, I can't give credit to a game that was tanked on a ridiculous error in judgment by a head coach. Sorry.
- Oneonta Penguin

I agree to an extent, but I'm struggling a little bit to figure out where the coaching error is. Is it the players he had on the ice, or the defensive nature you think he told him to play with. I believe it was Malkin-Kunitz-Crosby with Letang and Martin who started it off- which is a typical PP, is it not? I think Sutter might have subbed out for Crosby by the time the goal was scored.
Are you suggesting he should have put a more defensive lineup?

Personally, I think it was a result of (a) everybody on Pittsburgh collapsing towards the puck, which was at the blue line, and (b) an excellent seam pass from Michalek to Alfredsson, and (c) a great re-direction from Alfie. I think a lot of you are ignoring the last two points.

I agree to an extent, but I'm struggling a little bit to figure out where the coaching error is. Is it the players he had on the ice, or the defensive nature you think he told him to play with. I believe it was Malkin-Kunitz-Crosby with Letang and Martin who started it off- which is a typical PP, is it not? I think Sutter might have subbed out for Crosby by the time the goal was scored.
Are you suggesting he should have put a more defensive lineup?

Personally, I think it was a result of (a) everybody on Pittsburgh collapsing towards the puck, which was at the blue line, and (b) an excellent seam pass from Michalek to Alfredsson, and (c) a great re-direction from Alfie. I think a lot of you are ignoring the last two points.
- Jordo

If you're going to hate on someone, hate on Malkin- he is solely to blame for that goal. That Michalek pass went through 3 Pittsburgh bodies, and Malkin stepped off of his post at LW, leaving his man wide open.

I agree to an extent, but I'm struggling a little bit to figure out where the coaching error is. Is it the players he had on the ice, or the defensive nature you think he told him to play with. I believe it was Malkin-Kunitz-Crosby with Letang and Martin who started it off- which is a typical PP, is it not? I think Sutter might have subbed out for Crosby by the time the goal was scored.
Are you suggesting he should have put a more defensive lineup?

Personally, I think it was a result of (a) everybody on Pittsburgh collapsing towards the puck, which was at the blue line, and (b) an excellent seam pass from Michalek to Alfredsson, and (c) a great re-direction from Alfie. I think a lot of you are ignoring the last two points.
- Jordo

hell of a seam pass and redirection, ill give you that. however, it still should not have been even feasible given the circumstances. christ, even a semblance of back checking or defensive awareness could have made up for the fact that they had no idea what they were supposed to be doing out there