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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 21 @ 6:45 PM ET
I wish the Kings games were on earlier. Always fall asleep!
- MJL

so you admit to not watching them! LOL
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 21 @ 7:03 PM ET
So, do you think Black Hawk fans are starting to sweat a whole heck of a lot right now?

I still would like to see a Chicago/Boston final though, the fact that both teams have been around forever and have never met in the finals, would make it pretty cool.

BTW I am the only one who thinks Holmgren is going to pull off a trade for a defenseman that none of us will have seen coming?

Finally in the patting myself on the back dept: After 4 weeks of diet and exercise, I have lost 12 lbs and today ran a mile for the first time in about 20 years or so!
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 21 @ 7:06 PM ET
So, do you think Black Hawk fans are starting to sweat a whole heck of a lot right now?

I still would like to see a Chicago/Boston final though, the fact that both teams have been around forever and have never met in the finals, would make it pretty cool.

BTW I am the only one who thinks Holmgren is going to pull off a trade for a defenseman that none of us will have seen coming?

Finally in the patting myself on the back dept: After 4 weeks of diet and exercise, I have lost 12 lbs and today ran a mile for the first time in about 20 years or so!

- BiggE

congrats, MediumE
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 7:07 PM ET
So, do you think Black Hawk fans are starting to sweat a whole heck of a lot right now?

I still would like to see a Chicago/Boston final though, the fact that both teams have been around forever and have never met in the finals, would make it pretty cool.

BTW I am the only one who thinks Holmgren is going to pull off a trade for a defenseman that none of us will have seen coming?

Finally in the patting myself on the back dept: After 4 weeks of diet and exercise, I have lost 12 lbs and today ran a mile for the first time in about 20 years or so!

- BiggE


I think Chicago fans should definitely be concerned. Detroit took over the last game. And momentum is on their side.

I said it before that a deal made could be one that comes out of no where. That there was no speculation on.

Congrats on the weight loss. I know how hard that is to do.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 21 @ 7:11 PM ET
congrats, MediumE
- Crimsoninja

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 7:11 PM ET
So, do you think Black Hawk fans are starting to sweat a whole heck of a lot right now?

I still would like to see a Chicago/Boston final though, the fact that both teams have been around forever and have never met in the finals, would make it pretty cool.

BTW I am the only one who thinks Holmgren is going to pull off a trade for a defenseman that none of us will have seen coming?

Finally in the patting myself on the back dept: After 4 weeks of diet and exercise, I have lost 12 lbs and today ran a mile for the first time in about 20 years or so!

- BiggE

congrats on that! and yeah i would be going crazy as a blackhawks fan.

im sure holmgren is itching to do something. the one thing you cant accuse him of being is tentative.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 21 @ 7:12 PM ET
I think Chicago fans should definitely be concerned. Detroit took over the last game. And momentum is on their side.

I said it before that a deal made could be one that comes out of no where. That there was no speculation on.

Congrats on the weight loss. I know how hard that is to do.

- MJL


Thanks, it can be a female dog, but now I'm really getting into the whole workout thing. Gotta lose about 35 more and I will be back to where I was when I stopped playing hockey in my early 20s.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 7:15 PM ET
what are some realistic options you guys would target/be willing to part with?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 21 @ 7:22 PM ET
what are some realistic options you guys would target/be willing to part with?
- stayinthefnnet


what I part with depends on who is coming back. For a guy like Edler or Yandle, I would be willing to part with Read or Simmonds plus a prospect and this year's 2nd. Obviously for someone like Pietrangelo or Weber it would take a whole lot more most likely starting with this years 1st and Couturier.

I also would have no problem with just signing someone like Mark Streit if the deal is no more than 2 years and not too high a cap hit and holding on to all of our forwards. If Gustafsson continues to develop and Mezaros and Grossmann can return to health there may be no reason to rush into a deal.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 21 @ 7:29 PM ET
So, do you think Black Hawk fans are starting to sweat a whole heck of a lot right now?

I still would like to see a Chicago/Boston final though, the fact that both teams have been around forever and have never met in the finals, would make it pretty cool.

BTW I am the only one who thinks Holmgren is going to pull off a trade for a defenseman that none of us will have seen coming?

Finally in the patting myself on the back dept: After 4 weeks of diet and exercise, I have lost 12 lbs and today ran a mile for the first time in about 20 years or so!

- BiggE

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 7:30 PM ET
what I part with depends on who is coming back. For a guy like Edler or Yandle, I would be willing to part with Read or Simmonds plus a prospect and this year's 2nd. Obviously for someone like Pietrangelo or Weber it would take a whole lot more most likely starting with this years 1st and Couturier.

I also would have no problem with just signing someone like Mark Streit if the deal is no more than 2 years and not too high a cap hit and holding on to all of our forwards. If Gustafsson continues to develop and Mezaros and Grossmann can return to health there may be no reason to rush into a deal.

- BiggE

yeah. i cant see a guy like pietrangelo or weber being moved at all. the package of simmonds plus for edler could be really tempting to give up, but could pay off handsomely. i dont think streit is a bad stopgap, but eventually i think this team needs a long term above average d man to really improve
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 7:40 PM ET
yeah. i cant see a guy like pietrangelo or weber being moved at all. the package of simmonds plus for edler could be really tempting to give up, but could pay off handsomely. i dont think streit is a bad stopgap, but eventually i think this team needs a long term above average d man to really improve
- stayinthefnnet


I keep hearing all the talk and rumors that Vancouver is going to move Edler. I still can't understand why. He's exactly what the Flyers need. And I would pay a quality price within reason to obtain him.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 21 @ 7:42 PM ET
I keep hearing all the talk and rumors that Vancouver is going to move Edler. I still can't understand why. He's exactly what the Flyers need. And I would pay a quality price within reason to obtain him.
- MJL

id be pissed if they trade assets for edler that they refused to trade for weber

but we'll never know
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 7:47 PM ET
I keep hearing all the talk and rumors that Vancouver is going to move Edler. I still can't understand why. He's exactly what the Flyers need. And I would pay a quality price within reason to obtain him.
- MJL

im not sure why they would either. seems like a change just to make a change, but definitely moving a quality part. he would make a HUGE difference on the flyers. young, mobile, decent shot, can pass, hard hitting, and not a liability positionally.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 7:48 PM ET
id be pissed if they trade assets for edler that they refused to trade for weber

but we'll never know

- Crimsoninja

yeah that is true. i dont think the nucks would be able to pry coots or schenn out of philadelphia though. but yeah that wouldnt make sense to move them for edler but not weber, if that was the case
huks99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Austin, TX
Joined: 10.05.2007

May 21 @ 7:49 PM ET
I keep hearing all the talk and rumors that Vancouver is going to move Edler. I still can't understand why. He's exactly what the Flyers need. And I would pay a quality price within reason to obtain him.
- MJL



You say u keeping hearing these rumors ...... We're u in the room???

I kid, I kid........
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 21 @ 7:55 PM ET
id be pissed if they trade assets for edler that they refused to trade for weber

but we'll never know

- Crimsoninja


Are you checking out Halifax vs London sir?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 21 @ 8:01 PM ET
Are you checking out Halifax vs London sir?
- ob18

nah im at work sir

my heads doing good?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 8:01 PM ET
what are some realistic options you guys would target/be willing to part with?
- stayinthefnnet


There's rumors Edler could be moved and the Canucks and Flyers seem like ideal trade partners. At the deadline, the Panthers were supposedly entertaining offers for Kulikov. He'd be a great fit

I'd be open to a guy like Streit in FA, on a short term deal to buy some time. Obviously he's not a long term answer, but for a couple three years, he should be more than adequate.

I'd also be open to buying low on a younger guy who might have fallen out of grace to some extent. Jamie McBain or Rafe Diaz come to mind in this respect.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 21 @ 8:02 PM ET
nah im at work sir

my heads doing good?

- Crimsoninja


Game will be starting shortly maybe 10 minutes away.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 21 @ 8:02 PM ET
CSP looks amazing
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 8:08 PM ET
There's rumors Edler could be moved and the Canucks and Flyers seem like ideal trade partners. At the deadline, the Panthers were supposedly entertaining offers for Kulikov. He'd be a great fit

I'd be open to a guy like Streit in FA, on a short term deal to buy some time. Obviously he's not a long term answer, but for a couple three years, he should be more than adequate.

I'd also be open to buying low on a younger guy who might have fallen out of grace to some extent. Jamie McBain or Rafe Diaz come to mind in this respect.

- Jsaquella

hadnt heard about kulikov. hes another one id be curious as to why theyd be looking to move him. i think hes pretty decent and still young enough to get better
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 21 @ 8:13 PM ET
nah im at work sir

my heads doing good?

- Crimsoninja


Gordie Howe is however doing a ceremonial puck drop.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 8:20 PM ET
You say u keeping hearing these rumors ...... We're u in the room???

I kid, I kid........

- huks99


Trade rumors. Not rumors concerning a player character or behavior, that are unsubstantiated.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 8:20 PM ET
CSP looks amazing
- Marc D


He had a phenomenal period.
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