No offense or anything, but I dont know why the Flyers would rush to give Brayden Schenn an extension. The kid has that magic lala land potential, but has shown basically poop in his NHL career.

He needs to improve his game, and have a better season. Then give him an extension if he deserves it. Just my thoughts.
- flyer_nutter

Depends what you can sign him for right now.

If he'd sign something like 2 yrs/$4-6 million, I'd do it now and gamble that he'll finish that contract as a bargain.

If he's looking for his long-term, big money contract now, I definitely wait.

Frankly I'd be more looking at whether I want to keep the kid around at all, instead of giving him an extension.

Aside from his World Junior contributions, he hasnt really impressed me in any areas of his game.

Just another forward that is sub-par defensively. Woooo!
- flyer_nutter

he hasnt shown that he is worth a huge payday yet, but i would still be all over him if i was the flyers. some kind of bridge contract. 2 or 3 years at a slight increase. too much potential right now to totally walk away from.

yeah exactly. even among the supposed discounts, its not as if they are playing for peanuts. yeah crosby could have gotten a raise on his 8.7 from any team in the league and chose not to, but its not like he was like yeah mario make it an even 6 per year and we will call it a day
- stayinthefnnet

Even though I hate the media attention he has around him, its fun to watch him play. Really respect his drive more than anything.

Have to admit though, Sid doesnt seem the same anymore.

there's no question he's been a disaster in the playoffs since the cup. hard to imagine him significantly contributing to their playoff run at this point, but you never know. i don't know what's in the pens pipeline (aside from hartzell, but he can't be counted on to step in and be ready next season), but i'd think hard about moving on from fleury. i can see a trade or even a buyout. don't know if he's close to crosby or not, but if he is, sid's lobbying could go a long way to keeping him there.
- hammarby31

there is definitely merit to possibly moving on from him. if he mentally cant be there for this team, then how many more years can you wait for him to get it back? however, i still think there is a chance he turns it around. he is very talented, and has shown it before. its not as if the pens have a sure fire stud waiting in the wings.

he hasnt shown that he is worth a huge payday yet, but i would still be all over him if i was the flyers. some kind of bridge contract. 2 or 3 years at a slight increase. too much potential right now to totally walk away from.
- stayinthefnnet

Exactly. Perfect time this summer to bridge cooter and schenn out for 2 more years, need to start taking advantage of this down year.

I would personally deal Malkin and keep Letang if I was Pittsburgh.
- flyer_nutter

I'd buyout Fleury.

he hasnt shown that he is worth a huge payday yet, but i would still be all over him if i was the flyers. some kind of bridge contract. 2 or 3 years at a slight increase. too much potential right now to totally walk away from.
- stayinthefnnet

The Flyers love to rush and give out contracts.

How about the for one (frank)ing time let the kid prove he deserves a raise based on more than potential. I wouldnt walk away from his ass, but its time this organization properly and realistically evaluated the players it chooses to hang its hopes on.

If he has a solid season, then by all means. If he shows improvement in his defensive game first and foremost.

(Not angry at you or anything, just a little fired up haha)

Even though I hate the media attention he has around him, its fun to watch him play. Really respect his drive more than anything.

Have to admit though, Sid doesnt seem the same anymore.
- flyer_nutter

im going to have to disagree on that one. while i do think the mask may be bothering him a little more than he is letting on, i really dont see much of a drop off. yeah the freak injuries are a little disconcerting, but overall i really dont see a dip in his production when fully healthy on the ice.

The Flyers love to rush and give out contracts.

How about the for one (frank)ing time let the kid prove he deserves a raise based on more than potential. I wouldnt walk away from his ass, but its time this organization properly and realistically evaluated the players it chooses to hang its hopes on.

If he has a solid season, then by all means. If he shows improvement in his defensive game first and foremost.

(Not angry at you or anything, just a little fired up haha)
- flyer_nutter

no i totally understand. however, sometimes it pays off. its like stocks in a way. look at the grioux and letang contracts. largely based off of potential at the time, but are absolute steals now. when it works, those are the contracts that enable you to add other big ones. when it doesnt, well,...

I'd buyout Fleury.
- bradleyc4

Seem to be a few possible buyouts this summer.

That FA market could look slightly better than the back lane trash crew that it is now.

I've never been a huge fan of Luongo, but he has listed his condo in Vancouver. The guy is 34 I believe and would be a nice mentor for Mason. I've never been a huge fan of Roberto, but he has handled the BS in Vancouver, with a pretty good amount of class. I think Tampa will be gunning hard for him, but he would be a decent choice.

For once the Flyers could slowly develop their goalie, and not throw his ass into the fire.

im going to have to disagree on that one. while i do think the mask may be bothering him a little more than he is letting on, i really dont see much of a drop off. yeah the freak injuries are a little disconcerting, but overall i really dont see a dip in his production when fully healthy on the ice.
- stayinthefnnet

He just doesnt seem as dominant to me anymore thats all.

We will see, the injuries are unfortunate...

With the health such a question at this stage in his career...

Seem to be a few possible buyouts this summer.

That FA market could look slightly better than the back lane trash crew that it is now.

I've never been a huge fan of Luongo, but he has listed his condo in Vancouver. The guy is 34 I believe and would be a nice mentor for Mason. I've never been a huge fan of Roberto, but he has handled the BS in Vancouver, with a pretty good amount of class. I think Tampa will be gunning hard for him, but he would be a decent choice.

For once the Flyers could slowly develop their goalie, and not throw his ass into the fire.
- flyer_nutter

I honestly don't know what Tampa is doing with their goalies. They have Lindback, Bishop, and Vasilevsky. Why add Lou? Just curious...

If I'm Ray Shero, I go in to next season with a clean slate and say MAF is my starting goaltender.
- bradleyc4

Agreed.

no i totally understand. however, sometimes it pays off. its like stocks in a way. look at the grioux and letang contracts. largely based off of potential at the time, but are absolute steals now. when it works, those are the contracts that enable you to add other big ones. when it doesnt, well,...
- stayinthefnnet

My thing is that Giroux showed at lot more to me when he got his contract.

Brayden Schenn doesnt really have any aspect of his game standout. I hope he has a solid season, and then he is given an extension, but the kid just pisses me off. Not really even sure why.

I honestly don't know what Tampa is doing with their goalies. They have Lindback, Bishop, and Vasilevsky. Why add Lou? Just curious...
- Flyers_V88

Yzerman loves Luongo, and I think the Lindback experiment is over.

Bishop hasnt looked too hot outside of Ottawa's system. In Tampa or international hockey. Ottawa got a Matt Read of their own in Conacher.

Luongo would probably love the decreased spotlight and drama in Tampa, and there is the Florida connection.

what would you guys expect/be willing to drop on giroux' next deal?

No offense or anything, but I dont know why the Flyers would rush to give Brayden Schenn an extension. The kid has that magic lala land potential, but has shown basically poop in his NHL career.

He needs to improve his game, and have a better season. Then give him an extension if he deserves it. Just my thoughts.
- flyer_nutter

Brayden Schenn has a lot of reason$ to have a great year next year.

There shouldn't be a rush on the part of the Flyers to extend him and if you're Schenn and you think you are better (or can be better) than you've shown, why would you sign an extension now anyway when the possibility exists to make more money after a break out year?

what would you guys expect/be willing to drop on giroux' next deal?
- stayinthefnnet

Something just north of the Getzlaf/Perry deals.

My thing is that Giroux showed at lot more to me when he got his contract.

Brayden Schenn doesnt really have any aspect of his game standout. I hope he has a solid season, and then he is given an extension, but the kid just pisses me off. Not really even sure why.
- flyer_nutter

The Flyers have had Brayden Schenn for 2 years (ok, 1.5 years) and he's still finding his game. No way does he deserve an extension right now.

That said, he seems to have the proper amount of skill to have a breakout year this year.

Seem to be a few possible buyouts this summer.

That FA market could look slightly better than the back lane trash crew that it is now.

I've never been a huge fan of Luongo, but he has listed his condo in Vancouver. The guy is 34 I believe and would be a nice mentor for Mason. I've never been a huge fan of Roberto, but he has handled the BS in Vancouver, with a pretty good amount of class. I think Tampa will be gunning hard for him, but he would be a decent choice.

For once the Flyers could slowly develop their goalie, and not throw his ass into the fire.
- flyer_nutter

i've never been on the lu train either, but if the flyers buyout bryz, and lu gets bought out in vancouver, i'd love to have him.

Something just north of the Getzlaf/Perry deals.
- bradleyc4

I would normally agree, but with the cap so tight now, and the uncertainty of growth. I'd give G 7 years at $8 mil/yr. If he has another decent to all-star year next season, the value is approaching $9mil/yr.

The Flyers love to rush and give out contracts.

How about the for one (frank)ing time let the kid prove he deserves a raise based on more than potential. I wouldnt walk away from his ass, but its time this organization properly and realistically evaluated the players it chooses to hang its hopes on.

If he has a solid season, then by all means. If he shows improvement in his defensive game first and foremost.

(Not angry at you or anything, just a little fired up haha)
- flyer_nutter

I guess you value the meaning of a contract more than I do. Say the Flyers extend Schenn for 2 yrs a total of 3.5 mil. Are they really tied to this kid? No it just buys them more time to make a decision on him. Really it makes the situation more flexible bc I think we can all agree he is worth that and the Flyers would have him for 2 more years. That is a tradeable asset.

Now in the real world if the Flyers were to approach his agent this summer with that type of extension, I'm not sure what would happen I would guess the Schenn camp would wait on it

My thing is that Giroux showed at lot more to me when he got his contract.

Brayden Schenn doesnt really have any aspect of his game standout. I hope he has a solid season, and then he is given an extension, but the kid just pisses me off. Not really even sure why.
- flyer_nutter

haha he certainly pisses me off, but that is more as an opposing fan hating the fact that he leaves his feet for every check. from a flyers perspective i can see why youd get exasperated. he should be delivering a little more on his potential, but he is still young. like i said, perfect player for a bridge contract. he really hasnt shown much to merit more than 3 or so

i've never been on the lu train either, but if the flyers buyout bryz, and lu gets bought out in vancouver, i'd love to have him.
- hammarby31

At the right price, I think you can do a heckuva lot worse than Roberto Luongo as one of your goaltenders.

At the right price, that is.

Something just north of the Getzlaf/Perry deals.
- bradleyc4

not saying he isnt worth it, but yeah that is steep. i guess thats the reality for star players now