Stastny only has 1 more year on his contract so its not as big of an issue as you would think. He is excellent on faceoffs and his Corsi numbers are great. He was the 2nd best player at worlds as the Captain of team USA putting up 15 points in 9 games and would be the best center on your team automatically if you were able to get him. I think a line with Kessel JVR and Stast would be nasty.

However with all of that said I would still ask for way more than any of you guys would be happy giving up.
- Meeqsb

How about Grabovski and Komisarek???

Stastny only has 1 more year on his contract so its not as big of an issue as you would think. He is excellent on faceoffs and his Corsi numbers are great. He was the 2nd best player at worlds as the Captain of team USA putting up 15 points in 9 games and would be the best center on your team automatically if you were able to get him. I think a line with Kessel JVR and Stast would be nasty.

However with all of that said I would still ask for way more than any of you guys would be happy giving up.
- Meeqsb

Bozak is better. There is no question. Even if Stastny is an upgrade offensivly, the line of Lupul / Kessel is pretty maxed out already. Basically in the last two seasons when healthy they are top five point getters, how can they hope to improve that? Kessel could get fifty with Bozak if luck is on his side, but he's unlikely to play any better than he has, the guys is awesome. So you are upgrading needlessly and giving back defense, face offs, the second best PKer on your team, and probably most importantly, the responsibility of a Bozak allows Kessle and Lupul (or JVR) to take certain risks, if you put Stastny there, they will be a defensive nightmare.

Finally, Corsi is a ridiculous stat. Its a plus minus for shots. It has some value, but I think more so team wise than individually. Plus, theoretically, Stastny could be taking more shots that are of a weaker variety since his corsi is up (according to the last poster) and his actual points are way down. So he's either been unluckey for four straight years or Corsi doesnt realy mean anything. They could make a cycling plus minus stat or a net driving plus minus stat and of course those activities will corellate with goals, but it won't mean anything really, since the roll of a Bozak on a line with two superstar wingers is something statistics may not adequatley illistrate.

How about Grabovski and Komisarek???
- lumlums

I see you put it like a joke, but if it was Grabovski for Stastney straight up, Colorodo would be getting the better player and saving some money. Well, Stastny is probably better, but grabovski is just pure heart, plus its not his fault Nazem Kadri is awesome. Its not like he was asked to play third line because he sucks, is just Bozak is clearly teamed up with Kessel and Grabovski and him don't seem to gel togehter anyways, so once Kadri shows he can be a ppg player - of which there are usually around 20 or less each year - you have no choice to play Grabovski low. He's still good.

I see you put it like a joke, but if it was Grabovski for Stastney straight up, Colorodo would be getting the better player and saving some money. Well, Stastny is probably better, but grabovski is just pure heart, plus its not his fault Nazem Kadri is awesome. Its not like he was asked to play third line because he sucks, is just Bozak is clearly teamed up with Kessel and Grabovski and him don't seem to gel togehter anyways, so once Kadri shows he can be a ppg player - of which there are usually around 20 or less each year - you have no choice to play Grabovski low. He's still good.
- Timmy_Bee

Kadri will not be a ppg player. 60-70 pts a year in this prime

Kadri will not be a ppg player. 60-70 pts a year in this prime
- XxHarounXx

He was a point per game in his second year, at what, 21? He's years away from his prime, he didnt get first line minutes and he wasnt on the first PP, so where is the logic in your statement?

Kadri will not be a ppg player. 60-70 pts a year in this prime
- XxHarounXx

What is with the pony? That is creepy dude.

Bozak is better. There is no question. Even if Stastny is an upgrade offensivly, the line of Lupul / Kessel is pretty maxed out already. Basically in the last two seasons when healthy they are top five point getters, how can they hope to improve that? Kessel could get fifty with Bozak if luck is on his side, but he's unlikely to play any better than he has, the guys is awesome. So you are upgrading needlessly and giving back defense, face offs, the second best PKer on your team, and probably most importantly, the responsibility of a Bozak allows Kessle and Lupul (or JVR) to take certain risks, if you put Stastny there, they will be a defensive nightmare.

Finally, Corsi is a ridiculous stat. Its a plus minus for shots. It has some value, but I think more so team wise than individually. Plus, theoretically, Stastny could be taking more shots that are of a weaker variety since his corsi is up (according to the last poster) and his actual points are way down. So he's either been unluckey for four straight years or Corsi doesnt realy mean anything. They could make a cycling plus minus stat or a net driving plus minus stat and of course those activities will corellate with goals, but it won't mean anything really, since the roll of a Bozak on a line with two superstar wingers is something statistics may not adequatley illistrate.
- Timmy_Bee

Corsi measures puck possession for a player and is brilliant at distinguishing between players that are for real or just get lucky. Bozak is not better than stastny, you are kidding yourself if you think that. Stastny is also constantly played in a defensive role versus the best players in the league, which compared to similar players makes him the 3rd best in the league for what he does.

Peoples opinions on stastny vary quite a bit but to say Bozak is better is just silly, he isnt.

I see you put it like a joke, but if it was Grabovski for Stastney straight up, Colorodo would be getting the better player and saving some money. Well, Stastny is probably better, but grabovski is just pure heart, plus its not his fault Nazem Kadri is awesome. Its not like he was asked to play third line because he sucks, is just Bozak is clearly teamed up with Kessel and Grabovski and him don't seem to gel togehter anyways, so once Kadri shows he can be a ppg player - of which there are usually around 20 or less each year - you have no choice to play Grabovski low. He's still good.
- Timmy_Bee

Grabo is a freakin joke and a useless player. He is single handedly responsible for losing that series against the bruins. He was what a -10 with barely any points and demands a 5 mil a year deal. I wouldn't take him if he was free and signed for 900k a year.

Jimmy_Timmy is back is he?

Jimmy_Timmy is back is he?



- robin_steele264

With a vengeance die hard 2 stylez yo

Jimmy_Timmy is back is he?



- robin_steele264

Yup

Fair enough I see your point but we also have next year to do buyouts. I think we have some surprise buyouts this year.
- Yeti1181

Only have 2 buyouts to be used over this summer and next.

Kadri will not be a ppg player. 60-70 pts a year in this prime
- XxHarounXx

Gonna guess 50-60 pts, decent 2nd line center.

I see you put it like a joke, but if it was Grabovski for Stastney straight up, Colorodo would be getting the better player and saving some money. Well, Stastny is probably better, but grabovski is just pure heart, plus its not his fault Nazem Kadri is awesome. Its not like he was asked to play third line because he sucks, is just Bozak is clearly teamed up with Kessel and Grabovski and him don't seem to gel togehter anyways, so once Kadri shows he can be a ppg player - of which there are usually around 20 or less each year - you have no choice to play Grabovski low. He's still good.
- Timmy_Bee

Just stop

Jimmy_Timmy is back is he?



- robin_steele264

Who is it really, Asp?

Stastny only has 1 more year on his contract so its not as big of an issue as you would think. He is excellent on faceoffs and his Corsi numbers are great. He was the 2nd best player at worlds as the Captain of team USA putting up 15 points in 9 games and would be the best center on your team automatically if you were able to get him. I think a line with Kessel JVR and Stast would be nasty.

However with all of that said I would still ask for way more than any of you guys would be happy giving up.
- Meeqsb

You wouldn't get much for a guy on the last year of a deal that he's overpaid in, in a year that the cap is going down, after another unimpressive year.

I like the guy, but he wouldn't get much in a trade. Not much at all.

That said, the Avs have tonnes of cap space, so I don't think he gets traded anyway.

Stastny only has 1 more year on his contract so its not as big of an issue as you would think. He is excellent on faceoffs and his Corsi numbers are great. He was the 2nd best player at worlds as the Captain of team USA putting up 15 points in 9 games and would be the best center on your team automatically if you were able to get him. I think a line with Kessel JVR and Stast would be nasty.

However with all of that said I would still ask for way more than any of you guys would be happy giving up.
- Meeqsb

Nasty in what way??? soft as butter?

Corsi measures puck possession for a player and is brilliant at distinguishing between players that are for real or just get lucky. Bozak is not better than stastny, you are kidding yourself if you think that. Stastny is also constantly played in a defensive role versus the best players in the league, which compared to similar players makes him the 3rd best in the league for what he does.

Peoples opinions on stastny vary quite a bit but to say Bozak is better is just silly, he isnt.
- Meeqsb

Corsi is a horrendous stat. Terribly flawed. There is a reason it's not universally accepted.

Stastny is 3rd best at what he does??? Seriously??? For real??? Is this a joke?? Where's the camera??

Bozak and Grabo aren't that far behind Stastny. Grabo has like 3 pts less than stastny the last 3 yrs, and played 4min/game less last year).

Grabo is a freakin joke and a useless player. He is single handedly responsible for losing that series against the bruins. He was what a -10 with barely any points and demands a 5 mil a year deal. I wouldn't take him if he was free and signed for 900k a year.
- Meeqsb

It's funny how you reference Corsi numbers for Stastny, but fail to realize Grabovski has way better Corsi numbers than Stastny. As in, not even close. In fact, Stastny's numbers aren't very good, I'm not sure why you say that.

Grabo is a freakin joke and a useless player. He is single handedly responsible for losing that series against the bruins. He was what a -10 with barely any points and demands a 5 mil a year deal. I wouldn't take him if he was free and signed for 900k a year.
- Meeqsb

Ok, sure.

It's funny how you reference Corsi numbers for Stastny, but fail to realize Grabovski has way better Corsi numbers than Stastny. As in, not even close.
- Dirte

But he singlehandedly lost the Bruins series.

Who is it really, Asp?
- Aetherial

No, it's Jimmy_tea

No, it's Jimmy_tea
- AdamFrench

I thought it was Jimmy_Tee??? totally different posters.

I thought it was Jimmy_Tee??? totally different posters.
- burn

There's been 6 or so renditions of him so take your pick.

Ok, I know it was a devastating loss and all that and there likely was some Fording going on to ease the pain, but:

- Grabovski is not getting bought out. He had a rough year, he'll bounce back. He's making too much, but if you shaved that cap hit down to $4.5M, is that extra 1M going to make a difference anywhere? Likely not. He'll be a 50 point player next year and we'll forget all about the buy out. A trade is also more likely in a year if he puts up career average points as cap will go up and contract will look better and Kadri has another year to improve.

- They will make every attempt to resign Bozak to a very reasonable contract because there just isn't a lot of options out there. Kessel wants to play with Bozak; it'll make it easier to resign Kessel next year if Bozak's there.

- They are not buying out Phaneuf. He's our best defenseman. He needs a better number 2.

- We need a veteran 1B/backup for Reimer (Ray Emery, unlikely; Mike Smith)

- We are not getting Stastny.