Have no interest in keeping Vanek.
- theblueandgold

He has no interest in the sabres as well. Homer said he turned down an 8 yr deal for stupid money.

hopefully they don't pay him like he is ready.. if he actually said that it was a stupid comment.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Just said it in an interview with Brian Duff on Hockey Hotline. Side note, I think Duff should do this show regularly. He is 100x's better than Sylvester.

Arbitration here they come.
- dadeadhead

3 years 7-7.5 mil total

Rumor is he already turned down 8 for 8.


Take it for what it's worth.
- dadeadhead

Its not worth much

Andrey Makarov in Rochester next year?

Andrey Makarov in Rochester next year?
- homiedclown

Thats what Darcy said. He will compete. IMO, that would mean Hackett is with the big club next year.

Thats what Darcy said. He will compete. IMO, that would mean Hackett is with the big club next year.
- ImThatGuy

If memory serves me, Hackett would have to clear to remain in Rochester.

3 years 7-7.5 mil total
- homiedclown

At least

If memory serves me, Hackett would have to clear to remain in Rochester.
- dadeadhead

More it more it points to Miller being moved. I would be willing to put a guarantee on it at this point.

If memory serves me, Hackett would have to clear to remain in Rochester.
- dadeadhead

Nope, Hackett is not waiver eligible, has not completed requirements. They've discussed this on hfboards

Nope, Hackett is not waiver eligible, has not completed requirements. They've discussed this on hfboards
- theblueandgold

He does have one year left.

For some reason I thought he was already 24 in which case waivers would then apply.

Enroth to arb. and signs
Hackett pulled up

Makarov is in Rochester with Knapp
Leggio is a UFA

Miller is traded for god knows what and same with Vanek by draft


sound good?

Also maybe they buy out Leino and trade Stafford and get to the floor some other way

Did I miss all the John Scott Gifs?

Enroth to arb. and signs
Hackett pulled up

Makarov is in Rochester with Knapp
Leggio is a UFA

Miller is traded for god knows what and same with Vanek by draft


sound good?

Also maybe they buy out Leino and trade Stafford and get to the floor some other way
- Beezer33

Can't, he's injured.... At least I think that's the rule.

3 years 7-7.5 mil total
- homiedclown

sounds about right..

Enroth to arb. and signs
Hackett pulled up

Makarov is in Rochester with Knapp
Leggio is a UFA

Miller is traded for god knows what and same with Vanek by draft


sound good?

Also maybe they buy out Leino and trade Stafford and get to the floor some other way
- Beezer33

All depends on what Miller and vanek are traded for.

I think between Enroth and Hackett we can get a decent enough goalie, it is not like are going to win it all next year anyway.

Stafford I don't think I could care much less about, he is so useless I don't think we will get anything in a trade for. hell just hold on to him see if he turns it around long enough to make him a deadline deal that gets you a 2nd.

Going to be hard to move Vanek and Miller with 1 year left on there contracts and the cap coming down, most cup challenging teams are at the cap. But then again most GM's in this league find ways to get it done, all but our GM.

i wouldnt be surprised if darcy was close to moving miller at the deadline but it turned into a "call us back after the season"

he seems pretty confident that he can make the moves, considering how hes talking about miller and enroth

Going to be hard to move Vanek and Miller with 1 year left on there contracts and the cap coming down, most cup challenging teams are at the cap. But then again most GM's in this league find ways to get it done, all but our GM.
- SABRES 89

I have a feeling we will not be getting as good of a trade for miller as we did for JPom. And Vanek might be back on the team next season at least till the deadline

Going to be hard to move Vanek and Miller with 1 year left on there contracts and the cap coming down, most cup challenging teams are at the cap. But then again most GM's in this league find ways to get it done, all but our GM.
- SABRES 89

I think in at least on of those two trades we would have to take salary back, not just for the other team but to keep us above the floor too.

And yea if a guy like Holland wants Vanek he'll find a way to make it work, our guy would probably screw it up

Going to be hard to move Vanek and Miller with 1 year left on there contracts and the cap coming down, most cup challenging teams are at the cap. But then again most GM's in this league find ways to get it done, all but our GM.
- SABRES 89

We have the ability to retain a max of 50% of each of their contracts. We can only retain salary on 3 contracts, and it cannot exceed 15% of upper limit (64.3M = 9.645M) This new ability helps us reach the cap floor and also gives more value to those players.

A team could add Miller for $3.125M or Vanek for $3.57M for a year before they hit UFA.

With 50% of Miller and Vanek, plus the .795M we are retaining on Pominville, that would put us at 7.49M in salary retained. It opens up room to resign Enroth, Hodgson, Weber, Tropp, Flynn and Hackett for about the same money it took to sign Miller and Vanek.

I think in at least on of those two trades we would have to take salary back, not just for the other team but to keep us above the floor too.

And yea if a guy like Holland wants Vanek he'll find a way to make it work, our guy would probably screw it up
- Sabresfan-365

why do people talk about the cap floor like it is some sort of problem? Come on.....

why do people talk about the cap floor like it is some sort of problem? Come on.....
- toddkac

I'm not talking about it like it's some big deal. I'm just saying there is a floor that we have to maintain and there is a cap that other teams have to maintain. Consider how close to the cap a contender might be and how close to the floor we are, it makes perfect sense for us to some salary back.

I'm not talking about it like it's some big deal. I'm just saying there is a floor that we have to maintain and there is a cap that other teams have to maintain. Consider how close to the cap a contender might be and how close to the floor we are, it makes perfect sense for us to some salary back.
- Sabresfan-365

sign a d man for a year year deal with insane money

problem solved

We have the ability to retain a max of 50% of each of their contracts. We can only retain salary on 3 contracts, and it cannot exceed 15% of upper limit (64.3M = 9.645M) This new ability helps us reach the cap floor and also gives more value to those players.

A team could add Miller for $3.125M or Vanek for $3.57M for a year before they hit UFA.

With 50% of Miller and Vanek, plus the .795M we are retaining on Pominville, that would put us at 7.49M in salary retained. It opens up room to resign Enroth, Hodgson, Weber, Tropp, Flynn and Hackett for about the same money it took to sign Miller and Vanek.
- theblueandgold

how would you create the roster for next season, if vanek and miller are gone?

serious question, and assume no big additions