mrhattrick27
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Location: NJ Joined: 02.01.2008
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Amazing how all the focus should be on Game 3 and trying to get back in this series in general and yet all the conversation is on if Torts should be fired. - airjan23
Meh whats there to discuss with that though? Don't make mistakes and we need Girardi and Hank to play at their elite level. |
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Pete V
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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Thats a good point. It would have tpo be a clear upgrade. There is no indication that the players don't like playing for Tortorella. Is a failing PP and his lack of media tact enough to fire him? We will find out. We will find out as soon as tonight, if they go out and completely quit on the guy, you might get me to change my tune but does anyone here really think that will happen? - Blueshirts4ever
There is no way that will happen.
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mrhattrick27
New York Rangers |
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Location: NJ Joined: 02.01.2008
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But isn't replacing players easier then replacing coaches? I mean the whole team recieves a brand new mindset when someone new gets hired. And it usually doesn't happen overnight. A new coach could be a positive but it just as easily could set them back a few more years
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I disagree. It isnt football. Coaches can easily be recycled in the NHL. |
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There is no way that will happen. - Pete V
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Amazing how all the focus should be on Game 3 and trying to get back in this series in general and yet all the conversation is on if Torts should be fired. - airjan23
It could be worse, like talking about Obama and the IRS scandal
But seriously, it's a hot button issue everyday til he goes. Unfortunately |
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I disagree. It isnt football. Coaches can easily be recycled in the NHL. - mrhattrick27
and to be fair, with success, how many times was Claude Julien hried and fired. Mike Keenan for gods sake. Football it seems so hard to win in a second city and most of them get one or two chances. Jim Fassel, Brian Billick even are 2 classic examples. |
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Pete V
New York Rangers |
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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But isn't replacing players easier then replacing coaches? I mean the whole team recieves a brand new mindset when someone new gets hired. And it usually doesn't happen overnight. A new coach could be a positive but it just as easily could set them back a few more years
- Slimtj100
I don't agree with that. I think it is much easier to replace a coach then to turn over a roster. But, I don't want this team turned over to some newbie. IMO, it would have to be a guy with significant experience and a track record. Team is too good to experiment. |
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It could be worse, like talking about Obama and the IRS scandal
But seriously, it's a hot button issue everyday til he goes. Unfortunately - Slimtj100
I want to see him win not just b/c I am a Ranger fan but these guys who hate his guts will have to watch him get inducted into the Hall of Fame lol |
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Meh whats there to discuss with that though? Don't make mistakes and we need Girardi and Hank to play at their elite level. - mrhattrick27
true, but at least on this blog, the Torts Watch has been going for a while |
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I don't agree with that. I think it is much easier to replace a coach then to turn over a roster. But, I don't want this team turned over to some newbie. IMO, it would have to be a guy with significant experience and a track record. Team is too good to experiment. - Pete V
So at the end of the day, you might have to send Torts to sensitivity training and just keep him! |
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Pete V
New York Rangers |
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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I want to see him win not just b/c he is a Ranger fan but these guys who hate his guts will have to watch him get inducted into the Hall of Fame lol - Blueshirts4ever
You know I don't hate his guts right? I think there is a difference between that, and just wanting something new it things get stale. But, he wins this series, there is no way he gets fired. |
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You know I don't hate his guts right? I think there is a difference between that, and just wanting something new it things get stale. But, he wins this series, there is no way he gets fired. - Pete V
I know you don't, you've acknowledged numerous times he can coach. |
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Slimtj100
New York Rangers |
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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I disagree. It isnt football. Coaches can easily be recycled in the NHL. - mrhattrick27
Your probably right.
X's and O's I don't think he needs to go. Personality and pr wise he has wore out his welcome. So I guess if the players are tuning him out, that's the deciding factor and the million dollar question series 1, it didn't happen...tonight is the next plateau |
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Your probably right.
X's and O's I don't think he needs to go. Personality and pr wise he has wore out his welcome. So I guess if the players are tuning him out, that's the deciding factor and the million dollar question series 1, it didn't happen...tonight is the next plateau - Slimtj100
I don't think this has happened... |
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Pete V
New York Rangers |
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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Your probably right.
X's and O's I don't think he needs to go. Personality and pr wise he has wore out his welcome. So I guess if the players are tuning him out, that's the deciding factor and the million dollar question series 1, it didn't happen...tonight is the next plateau - Slimtj100
It's funny, but I don't have any major complaints with the way that the team has played in the playoffs. I think they beat a tough Caps team in a great series, and could just as easily be a tied series with Boston. Do I think Boston can win this series in 5? Yes. But, I also think the Rangers can make a series out of it if they get some luck. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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I still say we argue over the wrong guy being fired. I don't uderstand the jutification for Sullivan, I just don't.
Since 2008-2009 the power play has been awful. Let's throw out the 08/09 season due to the fire of coaching staff that started the season.
2009-10: Regular season: 18.3%. No playoffs
2010-11: Regular season: 16.9%. Playoffs: 5%
2011-12: Regular season: 15.7%. Playoffs: 17.8%
2013: Regular season: 15.7%. Playoffs: 5.6%
I don't understand how he has a job, he's killing this team. |
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Pete V
New York Rangers |
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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I don't think this has happened... - Blueshirts4ever
Well, maybe not intentionally. I think at times this year they weren't enjoying the game, which sometimes come with having to play for that type of coach over the course of years -- you get mentally exhausted. But, there is no doubt in my mind that they like the guy, and want to win for him. There is definetely no Messier-Neilsen situation.
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It's funny, but I don't have any major complaints with the way that the team has played in the playoffs. I think they beat a tough Caps team in a great series, and could just as easily be a tied series with Boston. Do I think Boston can win this series in 5? Yes. But, I also think the Rangers can make a series out of it if they get some luck. - Pete V
I work with a die hard Bruins fan, so as I run into him today, I told him how the Bruins are showing us the way to this point, his response, "oh don't worry, we will give it back to you". Not that he is representative of the entire Bruins fan base but they do tend to lose focus with a lead and it is certainly not lost on fans.
Speaking of fans, this is now the second playoff series in which little to no fans have invaded our thread and vice-versa. |
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Well, maybe not intentionally. I think at times this year they weren't enjoying the game, which sometimes come with having to play for that type of coach over the course of years -- you get mentally exhausted. But, there is no doubt in my mind that they like the guy, and want to win for him. There is definetely no Messier-Neilsen situation. - Pete V
I wonder if this was also a product of a hangover from the previous year. They haven' thad a real klinker in the playoffs and that includes the last game. Down 3-2 going into the 3rd isn't a clunker. |
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Rayven
Boston Bruins |
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Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. Joined: 07.21.2009
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I still say we argue over the wrong guy being fired. I don't uderstand the jutification for Sullivan, I just don't.
Since 2008-2009 the power play has been awful. Let's throw out the 08/09 season due to the fire of coaching staff that started the season.
2009-10: Regular season: 18.3%. No playoffs
2010-11: Regular season: 16.9%. Playoffs: 5%
2011-12: Regular season: 15.7%. Playoffs: 17.8%
2013: Regular season: 15.7%. Playoffs: 5.6%
I don't understand how he has a job, he's killing this team. - tomburton99
I've said the same thing about Geoff Ward, but you can win without a PP, Bruins proved that.
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I still say we argue over the wrong guy being fired. I don't uderstand the jutification for Sullivan, I just don't.
Since 2008-2009 the power play has been awful. Let's throw out the 08/09 season due to the fire of coaching staff that started the season.
2009-10: Regular season: 18.3%. No playoffs
2010-11: Regular season: 16.9%. Playoffs: 5%
2011-12: Regular season: 15.7%. Playoffs: 17.8%
2013: Regular season: 15.7%. Playoffs: 5.6%
I don't understand how he has a job, he's killing this team. - tomburton99
Its hard to believe they improved their PP in the playoffs last season |
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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy. Joined: 07.06.2007
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Jack shyt - Slimtj100
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I've said the same thing about Geoff Ward, but you can win without a PP, Bruins proved that. - Rayven
But at least the Bruins were over 10% in their cup year. I'd take 10% in a heart beat at this rate |
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Rayven
Boston Bruins |
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Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. Joined: 07.21.2009
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But at least the Bruins were over 10% in their cup year. I'd take 10% in a heart beat at this rate - Blueshirts4ever
I hear ya, it's frustrating when you look at what both teams can put over the boards on a PP, I don't understand it. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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I hear ya, it's frustrating when you look at what both teams can put over the boards on a PP, I don't understand it. - Rayven
Bruins at 16% during the playoffs when operating on the power play. 3 times as good as the Rangers. |
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