With even average goaltending we probably would've won that series.
- Cptmjl

And with average goaltending Rangers aren't in playoffs.

I usually only put the Messier pic up when we face elimination, but, I think times call for desperation already.
- jimbro83

Agreed... I feel like it is. It's gonna be weird if we lose and I have to remind myself there is a game Thursday

And with average goaltending Rangers aren't in playoffs.
- Chris Erwin

why are people always saying "take Lundqvist away from the Rangers and they suck"

why are we taking him away anyway?

is anyone taking Tavares away from the Islanders?

Agreed... I feel like it is. It's gonna be weird if we lose and I have to remind myself there is a game Thursday
- mrhattrick27

I just have a hard time believing this team that has been resilient all season long will just fold it up. I just can't see it happening. I'm not saying they will win both games, I think they win tonight with the season really on the line Thursday.

in the playoffs, Patrice Bergeron is 115-66 on faceoffs. .635 winning percentage.

That is sick

why are people always saying "take Lundqvist away from the Rangers and they suck"

why are we taking him away anyway?

is anyone taking Tavares away from the Islanders?
- jimbro83

The Kings squeaked in the playoffs last season, teams sneak in and do well in the playoffs all of the time. The Bruins squeaked into this round with the king mother of all miracles in Game 7 last Monday night, but thats ok? Other than Pittsburgh, show me an NHL team that didn't get good goaltending to get in? Even Nabokov had to be real good down the stretch of the season to get the Isles in. Its almost like we should be shamed that our best player is our goaltender or we should apologize for it. These guys set it up so they blame the coaching when they lose and when they win all credit goes to Hank. There is never anything in between which is where the truth always sits...its just not fair.

in the playoffs, Patrice Bergeron is 115-66 on faceoffs. .635 winning percentage.

That is sick


- jimbro83

Most underrated player in the sport, IMO

The Kings squeaked in the playoffs last season, teams sneak in and do well in the playoffs all of the time. The Bruins squeaked into this round with the king mother of all miracles in Game 7 last Monday night, but thats ok? Other than Pittsburgh, show me an NHL team that didn't get good goaltending to get in? Even Nabokov had to be real good down the stretch of the season to get the Isles in. Its almost like we should be shamed that our best player is our goaltender or we should apologize for it. These guys set it up so they blame the coaching when the ylose and when they win all credit goes to Hank. There is never naything in between which is where the truth always sits...its just not fair.
- Blueshirts4ever

I never got that. It's more of an anti-NY or anti-Ranger thing anyway than it is anything else.

But the same people who say things like the Rangers would be nothing without Lundqvist also refer to him as the "Queen" as well. It's Ranger hatred more than anything else.

We drafted and developed the best goalie in the world. We didn't go out and buy him, trade for him or pick him up on waivers, which is the new fad these days.

I never got that. It's more of an anti-NY or anti-Ranger thing anyway than it is anything else.

But the same people who say things like the Rangers would be nothing without Lundqvist also refer to him as the "Queen" as well. It's Ranger hatred more than anything else.

We drafted and developed the best goalie in the world. We didn't go out and buy him, trade for him or pick him up on waivers, which is the new fad these days.
- jimbro83

In this particular case on this thread its coming from Rangers fans, or so they say they are Rangers fans.

In this particular case on this thread its coming from Rangers fans, or so they say they are Rangers fans.
- Blueshirts4ever

yeah, there are a lot of those around lately

yeah, there are a lot of those around lately
- jimbro83

Anybody else wish that Redden hurries up and gets healthy?

Anybody else wish that Redden hurries up and gets healthy?
- tbreinold

definitely, and they put him in and take John Druce, I mean Torey Krug out. That would rule.

http://www.northjersey.co..._on_purpose.html?page=all

This was my point as well as other posters regarding the Hagelin comment.

definitely, and they put him in and take John Druce, I mean Torey Krug out. That would rule.
- jimbro83

If Redden plays Krug isn't coming out, if Seidenberg and Redden come back, Krug still isn't coming out. Bartkowski and Hamilton will come out.

If Redden plays Krug isn't coming out, if Seidenberg and Redden come back, Krug still isn't coming out. Bartkowski and Hamilton will come out.
- Blueshirts4ever

Redden in the line up is a boost to anyone's offensive game

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/208262151_Gross__John_Tortorella_often_makes_a_stink_on_purpose.html?page=all

This was my point as well as other posters regarding the Hagelin comment.
- Blueshirts4ever

I think the motive here was so obvious it's not even funny.

If you are working in an office and your boss comes up to you and says you know what, you really suck at Excel, it's going to piss you off and you are probably going to say to yourself I'll show him, I am going to become Bill Gates at Excel



this is classic Herb Brooks type motivational coaching technique

I think the motive here was so obvious it's not even funny.

If you are working in an office and your boss comes up to you and says you know what, you really suck at Excel, it's going to piss you off and you are probably going to say to yourself I'll show him, I am going to become Bill Gates at Excel



this is classic Herb Brooks type motivational coaching technique
- jimbro83

Tortorella uses the media for 2 reasons. To make it about him and not the players and to motivate players. He is always asked about his players and his most common answer is "I am not going to critique my players to you guys". All of a sudden, he is asked about Hagelin and he just out of the blue critiques a player? Come on, people, wake up. The second part to all of this is that Tortorella isn't wrong. The third part to all of this and the part that many posters leave out is that in that same sequence, Tortorella professed his love for Hagelin and loves him as a player which clearly he does. That gets left out.

I think the motive here was so obvious it's not even funny.

If you are working in an office and your boss comes up to you and says you know what, you really suck at Excel, it's going to piss you off and you are probably going to say to yourself I'll show him, I am going to become Bill Gates at Excel



this is classic Herb Brooks type motivational coaching technique
- jimbro83

I think he should come to the next press conference with a list:

Rick Nash, he stinks on the PP.

Brad Richards, stinks on the PP.

Ryan Callahan, terrible a man up.

Michael Del Zotto, a disaster on the point on the PP.

Derek Stepan, he stinks to, on the PP.

The whole team stinks on the PP, every single one of these guys, Nash, Del Zotto, Stepan, MZA, all of them, they all stink! Stink, stink, stink!!!

Tortorella uses the media for 2 reasons. To make it about him and not the players and to motivate players. He is always asked about his players and his most common answer is "I am not going to critique my players to you guys". All of a sudden, he is asked about Hagelin and he just out of the blue critiques a player? Come on, people, wake up. The second part to all of this is that Tortorella isn't wrong. The third part to all of this and the part that many posters leave out is that in that same sequence, Tortorella professed his love for Hagelin and loves him as a player which clearly he does. That gets left out.
- Blueshirts4ever

exactly

I think he should come to the next press conference with a list:

Rick Nash, he stinks on the PP.

Brad Richards, stinks on the PP.

Ryan Callahan, terrible a man up.

Michael Del Zotto, a disaster on the point on the PP.

Derek Stepan, he stinks to, on the PP.

The whole team stinks on the PP, every single one of these guys, Nash, Del Zotto, Stepan, MZA, all of them, they all stink! Stink, stink, stink!!!
- Pete V

I think he should come to the next press conference with a list:

Rick Nash, he stinks on the PP.

Brad Richards, stinks on the PP.

Ryan Callahan, terrible a man up.

Michael Del Zotto, a disaster on the point on the PP.

Derek Stepan, he stinks to, on the PP.

The whole team stinks on the PP, every single one of these guys, Nash, Del Zotto, Stepan, MZA, all of them, they all stink! Stink, stink, stink!!!
- Pete V

He'd be spot on with every single one of them wouldn't he?

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/208262151_Gross__John_Tortorella_often_makes_a_stink_on_purpose.html?page=all

This was my point as well as other posters regarding the Hagelin comment.
- Blueshirts4ever

I'm one who actully thinks torts knows what he's doing

Amazing how the tort naysayers eat this nonsense up and play right into his hands

I'm one who actully thinks torts knows what he's doing

Amazing how the tort naysayers eat this nonsense up and play right into his hands
- Slimtj100

I'm with you on that front. I actually think Tortorella has a more advanced hockey education than MOST of us on this thread. I include myself as not being as smart as Torts when it comes to hockey, just sayin...

It's funny how none of the tort bashers focus on the system now that they have the hagelin comments to spew about.

So typical of haters being haters

It's funny how none of the tort bashers focus on the system now that they have the hagelin comments to spew about.

So typical of haters being haters
- Slimtj100

Its also funny how when they won 5-0 it was Tortorella finally making the adjustments and coached the right way. Nevermind that they executed flawlessly and the other team folded. I would imagine Boston has nothing to do with being up 2-0 too right? A team just 2 years removed from winning a cup and is better than the Caps....sheesh