I agree. But I doubt Philly splits up the Schenn brothers. I'd have Couturier ahead of Simmonds as well.
- Nucker101

It's the presence of Giroux, Schenn, and Couturier all up the middle that has me thinking they could make that trade. Those guys are top 6ers so to have any of them playing 3rd line minutes is a waste and might be better utilized in bringing in a defender.

I want to see bold. whatever that means...
Based on what I've seen so far, I got a feeling gillis thinks the word 'bold' means 'stupid'. can someone call and clarify it for him?
- bloatedmosquito

I think think Gillis will make bold moves this year . I think a different 4 th line . A third line center . Maybe two new goalies. A top 6 forward and one new Dman .

I do believe he will address all areas. I also think two core players will be moved.

They will pick up Raffi and another Simmonds like player. If Clowe could put the puck in the net they would chase him.
- VANTEL

I think Gillis wants to try to shed the Canucks bad rep with the refs, which is why I expect them to let Lappy walk, and Raffi will probably get an offer but I doubt that Gillis will be the highest bidder so I bet he only signs here if he leaves money on the table.

They can't afford any of the big fish unless Luongo, Ballard and Booth are all gone. Who knows if management would buyout both Ballard and Booth, and Gillis may be afraid to even ask to buyout both. Plus if he signs a Clowe/Clarkson/Horton type during the first week of July and both goalies are still on the team then he loses even more leverage in trade negotiations.

Gillis will have his hands full this summer, the scary part is that he doesn't have much time to get it all done:

-Handle player's contracts(before July)
-Hire a new coaching staff(before the draft to maybe get some input)
-Draft preparation
-Move a goalie(before July if he wants to sign any of the top FA's)
-Cut salary cap(Ballard/Booth, again this probably has to get done before July)

I think think Gillis will make bold moves this year . I think a different 4 th line . A third line center . Maybe two new goalies. A top 6 forward and one new Dman .

I do believe he will address all areas. I also think two core players will be moved.
- VANTEL

Wouldn't call the 4th line a bold move, I think our 4th line will suck again next year unless the rookies in the system surprise in a good way, Gillis rarely signs proven veterans for the 4th line. 3rd line center is definitely a need, ditto with a top 6 forward. I agree that a core player will be moved(Luongo, of course), potentially one of Edler/Kesler, I hope it isn't Kesler and still think that our defense will be lacking offensively with Edler gone, especially after Gillis already chose to keep Ballard over Ehrhoff after the SCF.

I think Gillis wants to try to shed the Canucks bad rep with the refs, which is why I expect them to let Lappy walk, and Raffi will probably get an offer but I doubt that Gillis will be the highest bidder so I bet he only signs here if he leaves money on the table.

They can't afford any of the big fish unless Luongo, Ballard and Booth are all gone. Who knows if management would buyout both Ballard and Booth, and Gillis may be afraid to even ask to buyout both. Plus if he signs a Clowe/Clarkson/Horton type during the first week of July and both goalies are still on the team then he loses even more leverage in trade negotiations.

Gillis will have his hands full this summer, the scary part is that he doesn't have much time to get it all done:

-Handle player's contracts(before July)
-Hire a new coaching staff(before the draft to maybe get some input)
-Draft preparation
-Move a goalie(before July if he wants to sign any of the top FA's)
-Cut salary cap(Ballard/Booth, again this probably has to get done before July)
- Nucker101

+ if it's true that he wants to load up on draft picks for this upcoming draft he'd need to slice and dice in the trade market before June 30 (or potentially even on the day). Agreed that if Gillis stays he's got a hell of a summer ahead. It all starts this coming week...

I think Gillis wants to try to shed the Canucks bad rep with the refs, which is why I expect them to let Lappy walk, and Raffi will probably get an offer but I doubt that Gillis will be the highest bidder so I bet he only signs here if he leaves money on the table.

They can't afford any of the big fish unless Luongo, Ballard and Booth are all gone. Who knows if management would buyout both Ballard and Booth, and Gillis may be afraid to even ask to buyout both. Plus if he signs a Clowe/Clarkson/Horton type during the first week of July and both goalies are still on the team then he loses even more leverage in trade negotiations.

Gillis will have his hands full this summer, the scary part is that he doesn't have much time to get it all done:

-Handle player's contracts(before July)
-Hire a new coaching staff(before the draft to maybe get some input)
-Draft preparation
-Move a goalie(before July if he wants to sign any of the top FA's)
-Cut salary cap(Ballard/Booth, again this probably has to get done before July)
- Nucker101

Expect a Lu Ballard to NYI for Nino and Dipietro and buy out Rocky. Nino wants to be moved off the team and they need a goalie.

It's the presence of Giroux, Schenn, and Couturier all up the middle that has me thinking they could make that trade. Those guys are top 6ers so to have any of them playing 3rd line minutes is a waste and might be better utilized in bringing in a defender.
- AlexF

IMO Schenn is less likely to get moved than Couturier, even if they have similar value just because of the Schenn brother factor. I'd definitely move Edler for Couterier, provided that Gillis can bring in a decent puck moving d-man through another trade or through free agency because I'm not sold on the puck moving ability of this core without Edler.

Wouldn't call the 4th line a bold move, I think our 4th line will suck again next year unless the rookies in the system surprise in a good way, Gillis rarely signs proven veterans for the 4th line. 3rd line center is definitely a need, ditto with a top 6 forward. I agree that a core player will be moved(Luongo, of course), potentially one of Edler/Kesler, I hope it isn't Kesler and still think that our defense will be lacking offensively with Edler gone, especially after Gillis already chose to keep Ballard over Ehrhoff after the SCF.
- Nucker101

Pestimistic



I think he has seen enough over the last two years. I am so glad the Sedins had a good tounrey and he sees with the proper piece they can be very effective.

IMO Schenn is less likely to get moved than Couturier, even if they have similar value just because of the Schenn brother factor. I'd definitely move Edler for Couterier, provided that Gillis can bring in a decent puck moving d-man through another trade or through free agency because I'm not sold on the puck moving ability of this core without Edler.
- Nucker101

Corrado looks like he will develop into a good first pass Dman

Expect a Lu Ballard to NYI for Nino and Dipietro and buy out Rocky. Nino wants to be moved off the team and they need a goalie.
- VANTEL

Nino has had a fine tourney in this world championships. I think he could even slot into our top6 this season.

I have a problem with Gillis' drafting. But it's true, that fact he's traded away his good picks makes it all the more frustrating. Ironically this entire conversation would likely be much different had we won Game 7 2 years ago. "Gillis traded away much of the future but he did what he had to do to bring in the Cup." The difference one game can make on someone's legacy.
- AlexF

I don't know how anyone can have a problem when there are several potential/likely NHLers in the pipeline from his late picks (3rd-7th rounders), and also when all his 1st rounders were BPA, and are all progressing well—not to mention one just had close to a point/game season.

What do you have a problem with there?

The Sauve and Rodin picks turned out bad, but both were ranked quit high with the ISS, and both have had serious injury problems.

I'd be much more into Brayden Schenn than Simmonds, who I view as more of a solid complementary piece as opposed to a potential difference maker. I think Schenn is about to bust out.
- AlexF

Agree with everything here.

Simmonds is a great player, but isn't anyone I would build a line around. Schenn has the skill to be that type of player.

I don't know how anyone can have a problem when there are several potential/likely NHLers in the pipeline from his late picks (3rd-7th rounders), and also when all his 1st rounders were BPA, and are all progressing well—not to mention one just had close to a point/game season.

What do you have a problem with there?

The Sauve and Rodin picks turned out bad, but both were ranked quit high with the ISS, and both have had serious injury problems.
- Fosco

That just confirms that a monkey could have done Gillis' job for as long as he's been here...

His draft philosophy is to take the highest ranked player available in the early rounds, then take low risk overage players in the latter rounds. Not even sure why this team bothers to employ scouts.

That just confirms that a monkey could have done Gillis' job for as long as he's been here...

His draft philosophy is to take the highest ranked player available in the early rounds, then take low risk overage players in the latter rounds. Not even sure why this team bothers to employ scouts.
- DrChristianTroy

Gillis's later picks have been very good.

Corrado, Tommernes, Blomstrand, Andersson, Polasek, and Price will all likely see time in the NHL, and all were picked after the 4th round.

Guys like McNally, Hutton, Grenier, and Labate also have loads of potential.

EDIT: Gillis also went against the scouts and picked Hodgson over Beach.

His drafting hasn't been a problem. Development could use work, though.

His trading has been his downfall.

Gillis's later picks have been very good.

Corrado, Tommernes, Blomstrand, Andersson, Polasek, and Price will all likely see time in the NHL, and all were picked after the 4th round.

Guys like McNally, Hutton, Grenier, and Labate also have loads of potential.

EDIT: Gillis also went against the scouts and picked Hodgson over Beach.
- Fosco

I don't know of ANY scout that had Beach ahead of Hodgson... It was the general public & local media who were slobbering Beach's knob.

I don't know of ANY scout that had Beach ahead of Hodgson... It was the general public & local media who were slobbering Beach's knob.
- DrChristianTroy

ISS had Hodgson ranked higher than Beach, yes.

It's been mentioned on 1040 infinite times that the Canuck scouts wanted Gillis to pick Beach over Hodgson because of his size/style.

Obviously I have no idea where that information came from or whether it's true or not.

I don't know how anyone can have a problem when there are several potential/likely NHLers in the pipeline from his late picks (3rd-7th rounders), and also when all his 1st rounders were BPA, and are all progressing well—not to mention one just had close to a point/game season.

What do you have a problem with there?

The Sauve and Rodin picks turned out bad, but both were ranked quit high with the ISS, and both have had serious injury problems.
- Fosco

Rodin's had serious groin injuries. Looking at his girlfriend I can understand why.

Henrik with 2 goals and 1 assist to win WHC.

Henrik with 2 goals and 1 assist to win WHC.
- bloatedmosquito

Good entertainment too. Henrik's 1st goal a classic Sedin PP.

Rodin's had serious groin injuries. Looking at his girlfriend I can understand why.
- bloatedmosquito

That would also explain the shoulder injuries after he came over to NA

Those gold helmets remind me of something...



oh yeah.

Those gold helmets remind me of something...



oh yeah.
- bloatedmosquito

Are you suggesting the Sedins are robots? If so they've got the worst disguise ever.

I think Gillis takes too much grief. He's made some bad moves, but he's made some great ones too. At least he isn't ultra cautious.

As far as his drafting record is concerned, it's a little early to tell. Aside from his first pick who seems well on his way to becoming a solid NHL player he's never really had any high picks. Lower picks usually mean longer development, and they've had a top tier team to try and crack for most of his tenure.

Anchorman #2 Trailor

I think Gillis takes too much grief. He's made some bad moves, but he's made some great ones too. At least he isn't ultra cautious.

As far as his drafting record is concerned, it's a little early to tell. Aside from his first pick who seems well on his way to becoming a solid NHL player he's never really had any high picks. Lower picks usually mean longer development, and they've had a top tier team to try and crack for most of his tenure.
- golfingsince

We all know that the majority of Canuck fans are drama queens........I think MG has earned the right to save his job...and make no mistake, his job is on the line. But, I really doubt he does anything substantial....