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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 17 @ 11:53 PM ET
bryzgalov showing he's terrible
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 18 @ 1:42 AM ET
I was just looking at the draft order and thought that carolina might be the team to take him. Rutherford can afford to wait for him to come over, although they might go d.
- twotoekenn


It's going to be very interesting to see if there's a run on D or not, and the impact that will have on who falls to us.

Seth
Nate
Jon
--
Barkov
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2 or maybe even 3 of the following players should be available:

Nichushkin
Lindholm
Monahahn
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Nurse
Zadorov
Pulock
Skinkaruk
Ristolainen

Not too shabby.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 18 @ 7:52 AM ET
I'm not saying that there's anybody without flaws. I'm simply saying that one culture's hero is another culture's demon.

To say that people like Bryzgalov grew up with an opportunity to see how things really were make me wonder if you understand how restrictive the USSR was. It was hardly a free society, where information could be exchanged and one could learn an alternative history.

Your own reaction to my criticisms of the founding fathers and Columbus is shows how one can be conditioned. You pardon it by saying nobody is perfect, then talk about them growing up in a more "wild world".

The Russian revolution of 1917 came in the midst of the first world war, a time of massive slaughter and human misery. It was hardly a tame world. Even as the twentieth century progressed, the world stayed full of strife-the Japanese rape of Nanking, the Holocaust, Stalin and Hitler's blood purges, the Ku Klux Klan's emergence as a viable power in the United States in the 1920's and their reign of terror over African-Americans from then up into the 1960 and 70's.

Even bringing up self defense as an excuse for the sins of American Imperialism is weak. White settlers from Europe came and took the land that native tribes had lives on for generations, often time by force. As the settlers expanded their land grab, they consistently made and then broke treaties with the various tribes and herded them into reservations.

If a tribe or an alliance of tribes tried to resist, the white settlers generally annihilated them. If gold, or oil or anything that could be turned into profit was found on a reservation, the Indians were shoved off the land yet again.

But, Bryzgalov is wrong to hold a positive view of Stalin and your dismissal of the sins of the founders of this country is OK, because they had good intentions?

- Jsaquella

Native Americans where killing each other and taking each other's land long before the all evil white man came. Hardly excuses it but it doesn't equate Washington and Jefferson to Stalin. As my deleted comment said, look what world the founding fathers made, look what Stalin made.

I wasn't using self defense as an excuse I asked that because you said there are no gray areas to killing.
Bryzgalov made a stupid comment. I'm sure while we're at it I could go find some whack job who grew up in a racist household that thinks hitler was great guy too.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 8:20 AM ET
Native Americans where killing each other and taking each other's land long before the all evil white man came. Hardly excuses it but it doesn't equate Washington and Jefferson to Stalin. As my deleted comment said, look what world the founding fathers made, look what Stalin made.

I wasn't using self defense as an excuse I asked that because you said there are no gray areas to killing.
Bryzgalov made a stupid comment. I'm sure while we're at it I could go find some whack job who grew up in a racist household that thinks hitler was great guy too.

- JoeRussomanno


My point was not to compare the sins of Our Founders to Stalin or Hitler or any other despot. My point is that every culture and society puts a coat of whitewash on the sins committed by their founding fathers and "heroes" It wasn't to say that Washington or Jefferson were as bad as Stalin, it was an example of how Americans ignore the bad and explain it away as a necessary evil, just as people of the Soviet Union were taught that Stalin was a benevolent leader, who only did bad things to save the nation.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 18 @ 12:23 PM ET
My point was not to compare the sins of Our Founders to Stalin or Hitler or any other despot. My point is that every culture and society puts a coat of whitewash on the sins committed by their founding fathers and "heroes" It wasn't to say that Washington or Jefferson were as bad as Stalin, it was an example of how Americans ignore the bad and explain it away as a necessary evil, just as people of the Soviet Union were taught that Stalin was a benevolent leader, who only did bad things to save the nation.
- Jsaquella

I personally don't ignore the bad, I suppose you're right in how other Americans do. Case in point one idiot senator can't remember the name actually said slavery was a blessing not too long ago. However I think most people like myself look past the tragedies committed by our earlier government and realize a lot of good came out of it. I can't say the same for the soviet regime especially Stalin. Bryzgalov is a smart guy but I find it an annoyance that he wants to perceivable idolize that maniacal dictator while spitting on the people here for falling on hard times and using social systems his beloved Stalin would want everyone to be on.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 1:55 PM ET
I personally don't ignore the bad, I suppose you're right in how other Americans do. Case in point one idiot senator can't remember the name actually said slavery was a blessing not too long ago. However I think most people like myself look past the tragedies committed by our earlier government and realize a lot of good came out of it. I can't say the same for the soviet regime especially Stalin. Bryzgalov is a smart guy but I find it an annoyance that he wants to perceivable idolize that maniacal dictator while spitting on the people here for falling on hard times and using social systems his beloved Stalin would want everyone to be on.
- JoeRussomanno


Well, he did say he saw Stalin in a positive light, not that he idolized him.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 18 @ 3:09 PM ET
Well, he did say he saw Stalin in a positive light, not that he idolized him.
- Jsaquella

It's really gonna be something if he gets bought out, and New Jersey picks him up. Could be a whole new generation of flyers vs the red army.
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