By all means, trade him, buy him out, rocket him to the moon, whatever gets him off the team and off the ledger.

Nobody embodies the lack of discipline, inattention to detail, boneheadedness, and casual two-way play that has plagued the Flyers for years more than Hartsy.
- Tomahawk

Be careful what you wish for. I don't like the length of hartnells extension, but power forwards wih his skill are hard to find. I've seen nothing from Simmonds that leads me to believe he can move up and take his spot

If they trade Bryzgalov, the cap recapture issue still is a factor.

It's better if they used a CBO on Bryzgalov and could possibly trade Briere. I just don't see anywhere Briere would agree to waive for, when he can still get most of the money on his current deal, plus more money on a new contract, if he's bought out.
- Jsaquella

Bingo...CBO only alternative should they move on from Stalin fanboy.

By all means, trade him, buy him out, rocket him to the moon, whatever gets him off the team and off the ledger.

Nobody embodies the lack of discipline, inattention to detail, boneheadedness, and casual two-way play that has plagued the Flyers for years more than Hartsy.
- Tomahawk

I think the coaching is the culprit here. The guy can do what he wants out there and still be on the top power play team. Ill give Scotty the benefit of the doubt for the end of the year. Maybe he wasn't fully healthy.

But buh bye Danny boy

Ultimately, hockey is a business. The Flyers will act based upon their own salary cap needs. Briere should act based upon his needs and the needs of his family. He's given the organization his all, both on and off the ice. He owes the team no special favors to "save" them a buyout.

Well said, Bill. Couldn't agree more.

Bryz got pulled AGAIN LOL.

Go USA!!!

US beats Russia 8-3.
- Jsaquella

Pretty rough week for Alexander Ovechkin, no?

By all means, trade him, buy him out, rocket him to the moon, whatever gets him off the team and off the ledger.

Nobody embodies the lack of discipline, inattention to detail, boneheadedness, and casual two-way play that has plagued the Flyers for years more than Hartsy.
- Tomahawk

Tell us how you really feel Hawk,
I could see moving him for the right pieces... But I won't cry if we keep him because I think last season was an anomoly. I excpect him to bounce back in the scoring dept next season. The bad un-disciplined penalties will never go away. But Rinaldo's hair isn't long enough to pull so Hartsy has to keep that up...

Bryz got pulled AGAIN LOL.

Go USA!!!
- GoFlyersGoSlovakia

Without having seen the game, I'm not willing to judge Bryz on this one.

Anyone able to watch it that can summarize Bryz's work?

If they trade Bryzgalov, the cap recapture issue still is a factor.

It's better if they used a CBO on Bryzgalov and could possibly trade Briere. I just don't see anywhere Briere would agree to waive for, when he can still get most of the money on his current deal, plus more money on a new contract, if he's bought out.
- Jsaquella

This.... The cap recapture penalty scares me with Bryz's deal... And yeah most athletes don't retire early these days, but this would go into effect if he gets fed up and goes to the KHL.

US beats Russia 8-3.
- Jsaquella

Attempts to locate *spank* emoticon...

Be careful what you wish for. I don't like the length of hartnells extension, but power forwards wih his skill are hard to find. I've seen nothing from Simmonds that leads me to believe he can move up and take his spot
- Just5

Hartnell was coming off of a 37 goal Season. Two choices. If you want to sign him to a shorter deal. The Cap hit goes up. A player is willing to take a deal that results in a lesser Cap hit in exchange for longer term security.

Without having seen the game, I'm not willing to judge Bryz on this one.

Anyone able to watch it that can summarize Bryz's work?
- johndewar

Varlamov was worse.

Anyone able to watch it that can summarize Bryz's work?
- johndewar

Read Bill's blog. He gives fair assessments of Bryz. Most regular folks on here don't.

My gut feeling is that Bryzgalov is coming back. But I would not be shocked if the Flyers decide to buy him out. Roll the dice with Mason, and add a cheap veteran backup. Something that they would do. They're risk takers.
- MJL

I wouldn't be shocked, either. I'd be disappointed if they bought him out this summer, but not shocked.

Mason + cheapo vet = scared Scoob

Without having seen the game, I'm not willing to judge Bryz on this one.

Anyone able to watch it that can summarize Bryz's work?
- johndewar

Let me pull out my crystal ball for maximum comedic effect....

BREAKAWAY - SCORE
DEFLECTION - SCORE
BREAKAWAY - SCORE
HIGH STICK SIDE - SCORE
PULLED

*some (or all) of this could be made up....

Bingo...CBO only alternative should they move on from Stalin fanboy.
- isaiah520

Can you trade for a player's buyout hit? Could you trade Briere for a player like de Haan and Yashin?

Can you trade for a player's buyout hit? Could you trade Briere for a player like de Haan and Yashin?
- jmatchett383

No! Why would you want to?

Can you trade for a player's buyout hit? Could you trade Briere for a player like de Haan and Yashin?
- jmatchett383

(at the idea of Yashin still being traded)

Can you trade for a player's buyout hit? Could you trade Briere for a player like de Haan and Yashin?
- jmatchett383

mjl is the guy to ask about that. my sense is no on yashin.

I wouldn't be shocked, either. I'd be disappointed if they bought him out this summer, but not shocked.

Mason + cheapo vet = scared Scoob
- Scoob

backstrom for 2yrs w/ mason?

backstrom for 2yrs w/ mason?
- isaiah520

Doubt that Backstrom would sign for 2 years. And If he would, it wouldn't be cheap. And I assume he wants to be a starter.

No! Why would you want to?
- MJL

Becuase you cut down on the cap by approx. $3M and get a guy like de Haan.

Becuase you cut down on the cap by approx. $3M and get a guy like de Haan.
- jmatchett383

This is all theoretical anyway, since you can't trade for a "buyout". But my response was why would you want to take on Yashin's remaining buyout cap hit? Because DeHaan is that good?


You cut down the Cap hit by 6.5M by trading him or using the CBO.

US beats Russia 8-3.
- Jsaquella

oh so, varly also gave up 4 goals. hmmm...for some reason i imagine all the focus will still be on how stalin made bryz a horrible goalie and nobody will say a (frank)ing word about the other guy. i'm going to lose my mind.

This is all theoretical anyway, since you can't trade for a "buyout". But my response was why would you want to take on Yashin's remaining buyout cap hit? Because DeHaan is that good?


You cut down the Cap hit by 6.5M by trading him or using the CBO.
- MJL

I think de Haan can be that good, no idea if he will be. I didn't know if you could trade for a player who is bought out or not. The question I was asking (if it was possible) was whether you'd want to cut down on the ca by $3M and get a prospect, or cut down by $6.5M and add a player. Since it's not possible, it's moot.