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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 16 @ 9:00 PM ET
Oh no a puck leaked through lundqvist!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 16 @ 9:00 PM ET
Anyone remember Bobby Clarke telling Panotch that the reason none of the Flyers' players or trainers wanted to talk to him was that he was an @-hole? Good times.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Yes. Absolutely. I'm sure Panaccio was as proud of that as he is of anything that has happened in his career.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 16 @ 9:01 PM ET
It's pretty clear he is both smart and a (frank)ing idiot.
- feelingkettle


I think that sums it up!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 16 @ 9:02 PM ET
my first ever segmented-MJL-response!
i will go read it now

- Crimsoninja

That makes one of us...
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 16 @ 9:02 PM ET
Oh no a puck leaked through lundqvist!
- JoeRussomanno


He'll now be placed on waivers.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 16 @ 9:03 PM ET
So I just went way back in time, into the Metzler archives, and read his blog "Reaction to Richards and Carter Trades", to try to learn from the past. I read snippits of blogs leading up to that one, as well. What I learned is that back then, Carter and Richards trades were nothing expected, they were totally out of the blue. Metz seemed to be strongly suggesting that the Flyers should trade Kris Versteeg plus their 8th overall to Florida for the 3rd overall, so they could draft either Gabriel Landeskog, or Adam Larsson. If they stayed, he predicted they would be looking strongly at Dougie Hamilton (Though he doubted Hamilton would drop that far), Nathan Beaulieu, and then as a third option, Sean Couturier. What does this show? That whatever big move happens this offseason (if it does happen), will probably be unpredictable. Whoever they pick, it will likely be the last person that we think of. Do I hope they take Ryan Pulock? Yes dearly. Who might they be more likely to take? I don't know. But the chances it is who we hope it will be are pretty small, as much as we want it to happen. It will probably be someone we didn't expect. And from the past, even though it was one year, I would learn from this blog that the Flyers are almost definitely not trading up, if you include their statements this year that they would be happy picking where they are. Metz also suggested that they trade down that year, as well. I would say the chances are pretty low that they trade down, either. It's funny how enlightening looking at the past can be.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 9:05 PM ET
ok MJL i think we both understand each other's points of view

to be continued...
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

May 16 @ 9:06 PM ET
sick player but god i hate him
- Crimsoninja

You'd be first in line to by an Orange jersey
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 16 @ 9:06 PM ET
He'll now be placed on waivers.
- ob18

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 9:06 PM ET
You'd be first in line to by an Orange jersey
- KINGKENZO

meh id order online
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

May 16 @ 9:09 PM ET
He's not taking potshots at the Organization or the team. And he's right about the City. That's got nothing to do with the Hockey team. Bryzgalov speaks his mind and doesn't hold back. If he didn't want to play here, I believe we'd know it. And wouldn't have to guess. In my opinion nothing in any of those statements says he doesn't want to play here.
- MJL


Just curious. What did he say about the city that was right?

Funny. I have the opposite opinion. It's seems to me that his intentions are becoming less and less veiled with every comment.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 16 @ 9:09 PM ET
I think the Flyers at least inquire about the signability of a few UFA goalies. In particular, I think Homer would definitely want to speak to Lu if he becomes available. It will come down to money and term if they bring in Lu to replace Bryz. My uneducated guess would be something like 2 or 3 yrs at $3-$3.5 millon/yr.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 16 @ 9:10 PM ET
So I just went way back in time, into the Metzler archives, and read his blog "Reaction to Richards and Carter Trades", to try to learn from the past. I read snippits of blogs leading up to that one, as well. What I learned is that back then, Carter and Richards trades were nothing expected, they were totally out of the blue. Metz seemed to be strongly suggesting that the Flyers should trade Kris Versteeg plus their 8th overall to Florida for the 3rd overall, so they could draft either Gabriel Landeskog, or Adam Larsson. If they stayed, he predicted they would be looking strongly at Dougie Hamilton (Though he doubted Hamilton would drop that far), Nathan Beaulieu, and then as a third option, Sean Couturier. What does this show? That whatever big move happens this offseason (if it does happen), will probably be unpredictable. Whoever they pick, it will likely be the last person that we think of. Do I hope they take Ryan Pulock? Yes dearly. Who might they be more likely to take? I don't know. But the chances it is who we hope it will be are pretty small, as much as we want it to happen. It will probably be someone we didn't expect. And from the past, even though it was one year, I would learn from this blog that the Flyers are almost definitely not trading up, if you include their statements this year that they would be happy picking where they are. Metz also suggested that they trade down that year, as well. I would say the chances are pretty low that they trade down, either. It's funny how enlightening looking at the past can be.
- JAKEw1234


The problem is, the exact terms of the Carter trade were on the web weeks, if not months, prior to the trade going down. I recall seeing the rumor mongers having the exact details before they were eliminated from the playoffs.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 16 @ 9:12 PM ET
meh id order online
- Crimsoninja


Icejerseys.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
my first ever segmented-MJL-response!
i will go read it now

- Crimsoninja

I have not yet mastered the art of segmented responses. Until then, a Jedi I am not.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 16 @ 9:16 PM ET
You guys can female dog, hate, agree, disagree, or love the Philly msm, it matters not you're doing them a favor right now, discussing the poop they spew which indirectly funnels clicks to their websites.
huks99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Austin, TX
Joined: 10.05.2007

May 16 @ 9:16 PM ET
Read through the thread. Not legal under the CBA.
- MJL


Here's an idea to get around getting briere back this season......trade him to another team trying to dump a bad contract....one bad contract for another.....we both buy out the newly acquired player and then we can resign briere and the other team can resign their player if they so desire.....
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

May 16 @ 9:17 PM ET
Holy EnglblomHair, Bundy
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 16 @ 9:18 PM ET
You guys can female dog, hate, agree, disagree, or love the Philly msm,.
- JoeRussomanno


I choose Hate.

it matters not you're doing them a favor right now, discussing the poop they spew which indirectly funnels clicks to their websites.
- JoeRussomanno


Going full Shakespeare, eh?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 16 @ 9:18 PM ET
Here's an idea to get around getting briere back this season......trade him to another team trying to dump a bad contract....one bad contract for another.....we both buy out the newly acquired player and then we can resign briere and the other team can resign their player if they so desire.....
- huks99

Yawn, it's been discussed umpteen times, league would flip the (frank) out and he doesn't fit here anymore anyway.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

May 16 @ 9:19 PM ET
I think the Flyers at least inquire about the signability of a few UFA goalies. In particular, I think Homer would definitely want to speak to Lu if he becomes available. It will come down to money and term if they bring in Lu to replace Bryz. My uneducated guess would be something like 2 or 3 yrs at $3-$3.5 millon/yr.
- ravishingone


I'd wait to see who's bought out also. The current crop of UFA's doesn't excite me much.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 16 @ 9:20 PM ET
I choose Hate.



Going full Shakespeare, eh?

- Jsaquella

Meh Jedi knight is not in my stars but ill settle for force sensitive bounty hunter/smuggler
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 16 @ 9:20 PM ET
Here's an idea to get around getting briere back this season......trade him to another team trying to dump a bad contract....one bad contract for another.....we both buy out the newly acquired player and then we can resign briere and the other team can resign their player if they so desire.....
- huks99

Why should we resign Briere?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 16 @ 9:21 PM ET
I'd wait to see who's bought out also. The current crop of UFA's doesn't excite me much.
- 77rams


Better hope they get bought out early in the buyout period, otherwise, they're not going to have the option
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 16 @ 9:23 PM ET
Why should we resign Briere?
- JAKEw1234

He's a classy guy
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