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coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 15 @ 10:21 PM ET
How is saying anything favorable about stalin irrelevant? He was one of the worlds worst tyrants right up there with pol pot and hitler.
- twotoekenn

It needs to be noted he is russian and doing a russian interview. I understand ur disgust but it is also more complicated imho
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 15 @ 10:21 PM ET
That statement proves how big a clown you are.
- twotoekenn




JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 15 @ 10:22 PM ET
That statement proves how big a clown you are.
- twotoekenn

I have to agree with MJL on that one. If it isn't affecting the locker room, than who cares? Plus, try to think of all perspectives of things. I can guarantee you that Bryz has put more thought into his opinion of Stalin than you have, so maybe he has a point you didn't think of, maybe he doesn't think Stalin himself is good, but maybe just a certain thing he did for Russia. Just trust that he's thought about it more than you.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 15 @ 10:22 PM ET
Carter wasn't there for depth scoring. He was brought in to be that goal scoring sniper they needed. Richards and Carter are key top players on that team.
- MJL

You and I have always disagreed about Carter. What I think we might agree on is that he is doing well in LA and his contributions to their playoff runs have been more impactful there than here.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 15 @ 10:23 PM ET
Is rather have gardiner than b schenn. Esp with our group of players.
- Just5

Who is your second line center mext year then? I would trade from the wing personally.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 15 @ 10:24 PM ET
You and I have always disagreed about Carter. What I think we might agree on is that he is doing well in LA and his contributions to their playoff runs have been more impactful there than here.
- FlyersGrace

All I know is that I'm more than happy with the return we got for him.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 15 @ 10:24 PM ET
Who is your second line center mext year then? I would trade from the wing personally.
- coffee junkie

You seem to have no faith that Coots has the ability to play the 2nd line next year. Why is this?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 15 @ 10:25 PM ET
You and I have always disagreed about Carter. What I think we might agree on is that he is doing well in LA and his contributions to their playoff runs have been more impactful there than here.
- FlyersGrace


It's a normal progression for a player of his talent and caliber.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

May 15 @ 10:25 PM ET
Bob's reaction to Bryz's comments

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 15 @ 10:25 PM ET
I have to agree with MJL on that one. If it isn't affecting the locker room, than who cares? Plus, try to think of all perspectives of things. I can guarantee you that Bryz has put more thought into his opinion of Stalin than you have, so maybe he has a point you didn't think of, maybe he doesn't think Stalin himself is good, but maybe just a certain thing he did for Russia. Just trust that he's thought about it more than you.
- JAKEw1234


I'm not going to go into this much, because it has been beaten to death... However I think its a little naive to think all of his media BS, some of which is his own doing, has had no effect on the locker-room.'

Bill mentioned in a blog something about him having issues with some players in the room. Or something along those lines. When things become a distraction for a team, and a player has a chance to minimize those distractions yet chooses not to do so, its a slight concern.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 15 @ 10:26 PM ET
All I know is that I'm more than happy with the return we got for him.
- JAKEw1234


As am I. Loved Carter as a player here. It was an outstanding trade.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 15 @ 10:27 PM ET
Is rather have gardiner than b schenn. Esp with our group of players.
- Just5


I'd be in on this. Although I think Toronto would probably laugh.

Aside from a glorious world juniors, Brayden Schenn hasnt really done too much to impress in his NHL career. Nothing really stands out to me in his game, but hopefully he starts to break out next year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 15 @ 10:28 PM ET
I'm not going to go into this much, because it has been beaten to death... However I think its a little naive to think all of his media BS, some of which is his own doing, has had no effect on the locker-room.'

Bill mentioned in a blog something about him having issues with some players in the room. Or something along those lines. When things become a distraction for a team, and a player has a chance to minimize those distractions yet chooses not to do so, its a slight concern.

- flyer_nutter


That would imply that the media BS is what caused the issues with some players in the room. We don't have that info. Nor do we know that it is a distraction for the team. Bottom line is that they have to get better results. Regardless of what reasons we think is the cause. That is the only thing that matters, that has to change.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 15 @ 10:28 PM ET
I'm not going to go into this much, because it has been beaten to death... However I think its a little naive to think all of his media BS, some of which is his own doing, has had no effect on the locker-room.'

Bill mentioned in a blog something about him having issues with some players in the room. Or something along those lines. When things become a distraction for a team, and a player has a chance to minimize those distractions yet chooses not to do so, its a slight concern.

- flyer_nutter

I don't know if I'd call this media BS. This is him having an interview in Russia, speaking in russian, to a russian interviewer, about something totally unrelated in anyway to ice hockey. Don't see how that's affecting anything here.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 15 @ 10:30 PM ET
I have to agree with MJL on that one. If it isn't affecting the locker room, than who cares? Plus, try to think of all perspectives of things. I can guarantee you that Bryz has put more thought into his opinion of Stalin than you have, so maybe he has a point you didn't think of, maybe he doesn't think Stalin himself is good, but maybe just a certain thing he did for Russia. Just trust that he's thought about it more than you.
- JAKEw1234


Read a little about stalin and the great purge and tell me its ok.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 15 @ 10:31 PM ET
I'd be in on this. Although I think Toronto would probably laugh.

Aside from a glorious world juniors, Brayden Schenn hasnt really done too much to impress in his NHL career. Nothing really stands out to me in his game, but hopefully he starts to break out next year.

- flyer_nutter

I think Schenn has developed a little bit more slowly, but I don't think that they'd laugh at all. I think they'd accept as quickly as possible before Homer realizes he's made a huge mistake. B Schenn's potential tops out quite a bit over Gardiner's.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 15 @ 10:31 PM ET
Who is your second line center mext year then? I would trade from the wing personally.
- coffee junkie


A stopgap from UFA like a ribiero possibly

I will say I guess I'm higher on gardiner than most. I just don't see any glaring holes in his game. Reminds me a lot of letang at that age and he's stronger
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 15 @ 10:32 PM ET
Read a little about stalin and the great purge and tell me its ok.
- twotoekenn


You seem to think that not caring what Bryzgalov has to say on a subject such as Stalin is somehow endorsing Stalin's actions. What was that line you said to me earlier?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 15 @ 10:33 PM ET
Really just more to add to the irrelevant pile.
- MJL

~30 million dead...some prob my relatives...hardly irrelevant...staggering ignorance on his part, but i put him in the same category as many hollywood stars.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 15 @ 10:34 PM ET
I don't know if I'd call this media BS. This is him having an interview in Russia, speaking in russian, to a russian interviewer, about something totally unrelated in anyway to ice hockey. Don't see how that's affecting anything here.
- JAKEw1234


For sure.

I dont even read those anymore if I can avoid it. Frankly I think he is stupid for constantly feeding the fire, instead of thinking before he speaks. Why the hell does he even have to constantly answer questions, instead of just ignoring them or declining. He loves the media poop no matter how much he says he doesnt. Just my thoughts...

Seabrook knocks a puck out of the air to basically save a goal. Crazy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 15 @ 10:34 PM ET
A stopgap from UFA like a ribiero possibly

I will say I guess I'm higher on gardiner than most. I just don't see any glaring holes in his game. Reminds me a lot of letang at that age and he's stronger

- Just5


If there wasn't any glaring holes in his game, he wouldn't have been a frequent healthy scratch. I like him also as a player. And would love to add him to the team. But If we're going to trade B Schenn, I'd rather use him to acquire a more established player.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 15 @ 10:36 PM ET
You seem to think that not caring what Bryzgalov has to say on a subject such as Stalin is somehow endorsing Stalin's actions. What was that line you said to me earlier?
- MJL


So just stand by and let people say whatever garbage they want, just so long as they don't come up with trades that you think are ridiculous.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 15 @ 10:36 PM ET
~30 million dead...some prob my relatives...hardly irrelevant...staggering ignorance on his part, but i put him in the same category as many hollywood stars.
- isaiah520


It's irrelevant to the Flyers. And to the team. Are you also confusing not caring what he has to say on the subject with minimizing what happened? Seriously? And confusing my statement with saying what Stalin did was irrelevant? We're talking Hockey here. It Bryzgalov want's to be ignorant on a subject, that's his problem. All I care about is how he plays on the ice.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 15 @ 10:36 PM ET
I think Schenn has developed a little bit more slowly, but I don't think that they'd laugh at all. I think they'd accept as quickly as possible before Homer realizes he's made a huge mistake. B Schenn's potential tops out quite a bit over Gardiner's.
- JAKEw1234


That depends on what you see Brayden Schenn developing into.

We all have our own thoughts, I just dont see that potential as high as others. No worries.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 15 @ 10:37 PM ET
If there wasn't any glaring holes in his game, he wouldn't have been a frequent healthy scratch. I like him also as a player. And would love to add him to the team. But If we're going to trade B Schenn, I'd rather use him to acquire a more established player.
- MJL


What are the glaring holes. And we can't pretend that b schenn has established much either
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