Ah, I see. yeah tough to tell what direction Philly is going to go into. That team is so up and down. Pittsburgh it just depends on whether guys like Dupuis and Kunitz will test free agency and whether Letang wins the Norris and gets into the 5-6 million range.
- Morris

Letang is going to get Phanuef money. 6.5-7 per.

Ah, I see. yeah tough to tell what direction Philly is going to go into. That team is so up and down. Pittsburgh it just depends on whether guys like Dupuis and Kunitz will test free agency and whether Letang wins the Norris and gets into the 5-6 million range.
- Morris

Letang will get that range regardless. He's their #1 defensemen, produces offense, and logs monumental minutes. Plus he seems to be in the Norris discussion every year.

The more I think about it the more I like it. The Canucks need someone who score and if Dany Heatley is nothing else, he is a goal scorer.
- fiveandagame

He's not fast and a liability defensively but as you say he can put up numbers and can also help on the PP. He needs a playmaker though. Putting him with Kesler would be ridiculous IMO. He'd likely slot in with the Sedins.

My prediction for the day: AV to coach Dallas next season.

My prediction for the day: AV to coach Dallas next season.
- AlexF

That's IF he gets fired.

He's not fast and a liability defensively but as you say he can put up numbers and can also help on the PP. He needs a playmaker though. Putting him with Kesler would be ridiculous IMO. He'd likely slot in with the Sedins.
- AlexF

One of the Canucks biggest problems leading back to the Boston series is the inability to score. Maybe a new coach can fix that, maybe not. Heatley is a proven scorer with a lazer of a shot. If he played with the twins his lack of speed would not slow down that line.

Just looking at the Rangers roster situation. They have a ton of important UFA/RFA's in the next 2 years. I wonder if they would consider buying out Richards? He has been bumped to the 4th line and only played 11 minutes in last nights game 7.

Why would Heatley get 2-3 million? He strikes me as the kind of guy that would rather get 5 million playing in the KHL than 2.5 million here.

Why would Heatley get 2-3 million? He strikes me as the kind of guy that would rather get 5 million playing in the KHL than 2.5 million here.
- Morris

A Edmonton fan with an opinion on Heatley. Imagine that.

With the way UFA usually goes there will probably be a desperate NHL team that will offer Heatley 5 mil.

Agreed. The only Canucks buyout that I would put money down on at this point is Ballard.

Do those buy-outs expire at the end of this summer?
- AlexF

I'd think Booth would be a buyout candidate.

A Edmonton fan with an opinion on Heatley. Imagine that.

With the way UFA usually goes there will probably be a desperate NHL team that will offer Heatley 5 mil.
- fiveandagame

Happy to have kept Smid and to have subsequently got what we got out of Cogs and Penner, but if Heatley had wanted to be here we would certainly have taken him.

All this to say, I don't think 2-3 million is realistic. Especially when as you say there are multiple teams here and abroad that could offer 5 million.

One of the Canucks biggest problems leading back to the Boston series is the inability to score. Maybe a new coach can fix that, maybe not. Heatley is a proven scorer with a lazer of a shot. If he played with the twins his lack of speed would not slow down that line.

Just looking at the Rangers roster situation. They have a ton of important UFA/RFA's in the next 2 years. I wonder if they would consider buying out Richards? He has been bumped to the 4th line and only played 11 minutes in last nights game 7.
- fiveandagame

I doubt they buy-out Richards so soon. Nash has also been a zero for the them in this series which is alarming at that salary (7.8m). Brassard has actually been their most potent offensive weapon, which is all you need to know on a team that is obsessed with defense and shot-blocking.

They have 13m in cap space for next season and have to re-sign Stepan, Hagelin, McDonagh, and possibly Clowe. I doubt they use their compliance buy-outs but I'd imagine they might be looking for a trade.

I doubt they buy-out Richards so soon. Nash has also been a zero for the them in this series which is alarming at that salary (7.8m). Brassard has actually been their most potent offensive weapon, which is all you need to know on a team that is obsessed with defense and shot-blocking.

They have 13m in cap space for next season and have to re-sign Stepan, Hagelin, McDonagh, and possibly Clowe. I doubt they use their compliance buy-outs but I'd imagine they might be looking for a trade.
- AlexF

Worse comes to worst, they have next summer to use them as well. The risk there is, if the guy suffers a career ending injury, he can't be bought out.

Anyone want to wager a guess on what Ryan Clowe would get this summer as a UFA?

Anyone want to wager a guess on what Ryan Clowe would get this summer as a UFA?
- AlexF

The stupidest 5 year, 25 million contract ever awarded

Worse comes to worst, they have next summer to use them as well. The risk there is, if the guy suffers a career ending injury, he can't be bought out.
- Jsaquella

I was under impression that this summer is the last buyout period available to teams? Teams were allowed to have buyouts which did not impact their cap before and after the season and that was it.

We do need a top 9 player that can score, but I wouldn't give up a #1 defence man for either of them straight up.

The reason Edler has dropped down our depth chart is because our style of play has changed to a defence oriented system. If the Canucks played a high tempo game, we wouldn't be discussing an Edler trade at all.

Honestly trading Edler is a mistake. If we are going to be trading a defence man, it should be Hamhuis.
- Gullzy

Since he is arguably a #1b Def and possibly best on our team... not happening..

I was under impression that this summer is the last buyout period available to teams? Teams were allowed to have buyouts which did not impact their cap before and after the season and that was it.
- Canuckleafer

NHL clubs will have to adjust to a $64.3 million salary cap in 2013-14 as part of the tentative new CBA, but they will each get two amnesty buyouts to help them through the transition, according to CP’s Chris Johnston and Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos.

The debate on which players will be bought out will start immediately, but teams don’t need to rush to a decision. NHL franchises will be allowed to use the buyouts starting this summer and they will also have the opportunity to exercise them during the 2014 off-season. They can buy out two players simultaneously or spread them out if they wish.

The players bought out will still receive two-thirds of what’s left on their contract, but those costs will not count towards the salary cap. However, they will still count towards the players’ share of hockey-related revenues.

Given that the first amnesty buyout period won’t start until this summer, some potential candidates will have the opportunity to try to avoid that fate by performing admirably during the shortened season.

I was under impression that this summer is the last buyout period available to teams? Teams were allowed to have buyouts which did not impact their cap before and after the season and that was it.
- Canuckleafer

Nope. The compliance buyouts were originally scheduled to be used only in the summers of 2013 & 2014, but the Rangers and Habs basically told Wade Redden and Scott Gomez to sit home and avoid injuries, so the NHL & NHLPA agreed to "accelerated" Compliance buyouts that could be done immediately.

The conditions of the accelerated CBO's was that the player got 100% of their salary due for 2013, the team carried the full cap hit for 2013 and the rest of the contract was handled like a regular compliance buy out.

So, each tam got 2 compliance buy outs, to use or lose by the end of the summer 2014 buyout period. The Habs and Rangers have one left each, and teams utilizing them will have to pay any player they use them on 2/3rds of the remaining cash owed, over twice the remaining term, and the contract comes completely off the cap. It protects teams from cap recapture penalties, as well.

Players who are injured can not be bought out under the terms of a CBO, so guys like Chris Pronger and Marc Savard are not eligible.

My prediction for the day: AV to coach Dallas next season.
- AlexF

I could see that for sure. The Phoenix situation could also really be intriguing to him if they have a strong chance of moving to Quebec. I don't expect Sakic to hire him to coach the Avs, but he'd definitely at least get an interview. Is Noel's job secure in Winnipeg, or is it a wait-and-see like AV with the Nucks right now?

NHL clubs will have to adjust to a $64.3 million salary cap in 2013-14 as part of the tentative new CBA, but they will each get two amnesty buyouts to help them through the transition, according to CP’s Chris Johnston and Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos.

The debate on which players will be bought out will start immediately, but teams don’t need to rush to a decision. NHL franchises will be allowed to use the buyouts starting this summer and they will also have the opportunity to exercise them during the 2014 off-season. They can buy out two players simultaneously or spread them out if they wish.

The players bought out will still receive two-thirds of what’s left on their contract, but those costs will not count towards the salary cap. However, they will still count towards the players’ share of hockey-related revenues.

Given that the first amnesty buyout period won’t start until this summer, some potential candidates will have the opportunity to try to avoid that fate by performing admirably during the shortened season.
- AlexF

I was curious about that myself, thanks.

Stastny +
- DDM-Coga

Cap problems.... Maybe if you took Booth or Ballard or Luongo ......

Why would Heatley get 2-3 million? He strikes me as the kind of guy that would rather get 5 million playing in the KHL than 2.5 million here.
- Morris

Agreed. And there are always desperate teams and GM's in the NHL as well that I could see throwing some good money at him. I would only take him on a short-term deal at good value, otherwise he's not worth it.

The stupidest 5 year, 25 million contract ever awarded
- Morris

Probably.

Letang is going to get Phanuef money. 6.5-7 per.
- Gullzy

Can Pitt even afford that? I think they'd go 6.5 as the absoulte max because of their situation.

The Canucks aren't in Cap trouble.
- Gullzy

Really?

Even with buyouts available they are in huge trouble.