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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
Oh so fans are making trades these days? Sorry but this isn't NHL14.
- kingsfirstcup


No, but fans certainly have an opinion on their own teams players, and whether the deal is alright value wise.

And since fans tend to overvalue their own teams' players, when a fan of the opposite team in the trade suggests they would make the deal, at the very least it's plausible in respect to player for player value.

But whatever, you can let your Canuck hate dictate your opinion as much as you'd like
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 15 @ 4:23 PM ET
So, how many A-hole Canuck fans were banned for trolling the Leaf thread after last night?
- 1970vintage


There were a few digs from Canucks fans as to be expected, but for the most part most guys were pretty classy with their comments.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 15 @ 4:39 PM ET
Guys, this team aint going to change much.......we won't be able to unload who we want due to contract constraints.........I hope that we keep this team and watch it tank for a year, get a good pick and re-build for 2014-15.

We only have 12 players signed for 2014-15 including Ballard, Booth and Luongo who will all likely be cut loose or given away meaning we only have 9 guys signed worth a mere $35 million on what will likely be an increasing cap.

We can sacrifice a year and re-tool for 2014-15 through the draft and free agents because I just don't see much changing next season....
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 15 @ 4:40 PM ET
There were a few digs from Canucks fans as to be expected, but for the most part most guys were pretty classy with their comments.
- As_I_See_It



Dang! I missed my chance!!!!
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 15 @ 4:43 PM ET
not sure... Seto and cullen maybe?
- SMP8719


Kind of my point... He hardly had the system & linemates to succeed in Minnesota. I think he could still be a 70 point player (30G/40A) in the right situation. Not even sure if THIS is the right situation until a coaching decision is made.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 15 @ 4:58 PM ET
Dang! I missed my chance!!!!
- chompsey


Don't worry, none of us would have believed that you were classy anyway.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

May 15 @ 4:58 PM ET
Kind of my point... He hardly had the system & linemates to succeed in Minnesota. I think he could still be a 70 point player (30G/40A) in the right situation. Not even sure if THIS is the right situation until a coaching decision is made.
- DrChristianTroy



And you think that we have better players on our second line?? do you really think shoot first Kesler is going to help Heatley? Or the other way around....

Who are our second line wingers?? kassian..... Higgins... Hansen..... Booth.... raymond..... Seto is better the all of those and Cullen is an under rated player.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 15 @ 5:00 PM ET
Don't worry, none of us would have believed that you were classy anyway.
- As_I_See_It


I would never disappoint.....
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 15 @ 5:02 PM ET
And you think that we have better players on our second line?? do you really think shoot first Kesler is going to help Heatley? Or the other way around....

Who are our second line wingers?? kassian..... Higgins... Hansen..... Booth.... raymond..... Seto is better the all of those and Cullen is an under rated player.

- SMP8719




I just wouldn't expect much in the way of change. Gillis is married to his investments and has proven (other than with Sundin) that he's afraid to be bold....I suspect it'll be another year of the same ol' same ol'..........
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 15 @ 5:11 PM ET
I just wouldn't expect much in the way of change. Gillis is married to his investments and has proven (other than with Sundin) that he's afraid to be bold....I suspect it'll be another year of the same ol' same ol'..........
- chompsey


He's supposed to be meeting with the Aquillini family this week. We're 1-8 in the last 9 playoff games. If his big vision is to stay the course then he should be relieved of duties.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 15 @ 5:42 PM ET
Any deal with DET would have to include Nyquist.
- Fosco

Screw that. I want Brandon Smith
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 15 @ 5:57 PM ET
And you think that we have better players on our second line?? do you really think shoot first Kesler is going to help Heatley? Or the other way around....

Who are our second line wingers?? kassian..... Higgins... Hansen..... Booth.... raymond..... Seto is better the all of those and Cullen is an under rated player.

- SMP8719


Uh... I said "Not even sure if THIS is the right situation until a coaching decision is made."

The rest is irrelevant until our new staff is in place. All I'm saying is I'd be FOR signing Heatley to an affordable short term deal if our new system suits his game and we can surround him with better talent than Setoguchi & Cullen (both of whom you overrate).
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 15 @ 6:09 PM ET
Uh... I said "Not even sure if THIS is the right situation until a coaching decision is made."

The rest is irrelevant until our new staff is in place. All I'm saying is I'd be FOR signing Heatley to an affordable short term deal if our new system suits his game and we can surround him with better talent than Setoguchi & Cullen (both of whom you overrate).

- DrChristianTroy


If we can get Heatley for the same as what we were paying Raymond for I can't believe people have an issue with it. Doubtful he'd be taking any younger player's spot. That said, Heatley will likely get far more than what we'd be willing to pay and for a longer term.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 6:20 PM ET
And you think that we have better players on our second line?? do you really think shoot first Kesler is going to help Heatley? Or the other way around....

Who are our second line wingers?? kassian..... Higgins... Hansen..... Booth.... raymond..... Seto is better the all of those and Cullen is an under rated player.

- SMP8719



He is a RH shot , what about trying him with the twins on the second line
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

May 15 @ 6:22 PM ET
We need to fire av and get a real coach to teach these "young bloods" how to play
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 15 @ 6:23 PM ET
He is a RH shot , what about trying him with the twins on the second line
- VANTEL


Who... Setoguchi? No thanks.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 6:24 PM ET
Who... Setoguchi? No thanks.
- DrChristianTroy



Heatly
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 15 @ 6:25 PM ET
Somebody on HF made a picture of the possible reunion of AV and Rome, if AV happens to get the job in Dallas after he's fired (please);



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 6:26 PM ET
Somebody on HF made a picture of the possible reunion of AV and Rome, if AV happens to get the job in Dallas after he's fired (please);




- Fosco



I thought about that
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 15 @ 6:27 PM ET
Heatly
- VANTEL


He isn't RH.
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

May 15 @ 6:30 PM ET
Somebody on HF made a picture of the possible reunion of AV and Rome, if AV happens to get the job in Dallas after he's fired (please);




- Fosco


He would make jamie benn the new may ray and we could snatch him for draft picks
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 15 @ 6:34 PM ET

He would make jamie benn the new may ray and we could snatch him for draft picks

- RF_4eva


Well, to be fair, I'd say Raymond was one of AV's boys with the number of chances he got...

Maybe Ballard would be a better choice in that scenario.

After a few games in the press box, Benn wouldn't be able to get out of Dallas quick enough
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 6:41 PM ET
He isn't RH.
- DrChristianTroy


http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/2415
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 15 @ 6:50 PM ET
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/2415
- VANTEL


That link just confirms that he's LH. As far as being able to play both wings, yes he can.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 15 @ 6:51 PM ET
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/2415
- VANTEL

rightwing, shoots left
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