The few shifts I watched him play he didn't hurt the team. He didn't impress either. Kid needs ice time in the show.
- thundachunk

He was still junior eligible this year, give him a year of top 6 in the AHL since this team doesn't have any realistic spots available in the top 6 unless Gillis fails to add a forward. If he forces his way into the lineup due to a surprising camp and pre-season then of course you give him a shot but otherwise he should be playing top 6 and PP minutes in the AHL. Hopefully not under Arniel.

Hard to say, two games is one small sample size plus the Canucks organization isn't exactly a great place for offensive forwards to flourish with Arniel and AV running things. Apparently he wasn't overly impressive on the Wolves so there's no way I'd pencil him in on the opening day lineup heading into training camp and pre-season uness he really improves over the summer and has a strong camp and pre-season and forces his way onto the team. IMO Corrado should be on the third pairing as a RHD, move Tanev up to the second pair and there's two, cheap, young guys that can play which is what we all want. Kassian has to be in the top 9, but its's trick with Daniel, Hansen, Higgins, Burrows, Booth all under contract since we can all agree that Higgins or Hansen aren't top 6 wingers, Kassian isn't ready unless he improves over the summer which is very possible and you play him with the Twins and move Burrows down with Kesler. Booth would have to be bought out then since he wouldn't work with Kesler and Burrows and is too expensive for any other role.

I'd like to see Archibald be given a legit shot to play on the 4th line if it's the same old usual Weise/Sestito type of scrubs again. Lain isn't ready as a 4LC IMO, don't think Mallet is ready either since both weren't too impressive in the AHL/ECHL, but Lain's faceoff ability could e valuable but like DCT said, I'd rather have better players than faceoff winners, just look at Toronto getting dominated in faceoffs by Boston. Schroeder as a 3LC with Higgins and Hansen could be interesting if Gillis can't acquire a better 3LC. This team is just not going to beat up anyone so I'm fine with a speedy 3rd line that can create chances.

And hopefully Gillis can acquire a top 6 forward for the 2nd line and all of a sudden the top 9 doesn't look too bad. He'd need to sign a decent LHD to replace Edler though(assuming he'd be the one getting traded). And obviously Ballard would have to be bought out as well, Raymond walks, and Lu gets traded for anything or waived justt to get him off of the books.

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Burrows - Kesler - Top 6
Higgins - Schroeder/3LC - Hansen
??? - ??? - ???

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Garrison - Tanev
Decent LHD - Corrado

Schneider
Lack/Vet Backup


Obviously not a stacked lineup but this team is limited with the cap going down. This lineup would also give the team some cap flexibility moving forward with the cpa very likely going up after next year. I move Kassian with the Sedins since I don't see him fitting well with Kesler and IMO next year will be a huge year for him, another mediocre offensive year and that trade starts to look terrible and the word bust will start getting thrown around quite a bit since most power forwards usually figure it out by then. His confidence and game could take off if he scores 20-25+ with the Twins.
- Nucker101

Gillis will get creative

He was still junior eligible this year, give him a year of top 6 in the AHL since this team doesn't have any realistic spots available in the top 6 unless Gillis fails to add a forward. If he forces his way into the lineup due to a surprising camp and pre-season then of course you give him a shot but otherwise he should be playing top 6 and PP minutes in the AHL. Hopefully not under Arniel.
- Nucker101

I would like him to play AHL for a year , not rush the kid

Hard to say, two games is one small sample size plus the Canucks organization isn't exactly a great place for offensive forwards to flourish with Arniel and AV running things. Apparently he wasn't overly impressive on the Wolves so there's no way I'd pencil him in on the opening day lineup heading into training camp and pre-season uness he really improves over the summer and has a strong camp and pre-season and forces his way onto the team. IMO Corrado should be on the third pairing as a RHD, move Tanev up to the second pair and there's two, cheap, young guys that can play which is what we all want. Kassian has to be in the top 9, but its's trick with Daniel, Hansen, Higgins, Burrows, Booth all under contract since we can all agree that Higgins or Hansen aren't top 6 wingers, Kassian isn't ready unless he improves over the summer which is very possible and you play him with the Twins and move Burrows down with Kesler. Booth would have to be bought out then since he wouldn't work with Kesler and Burrows and is too expensive for any other role.

I'd like to see Archibald be given a legit shot to play on the 4th line if it's the same old usual Weise/Sestito type of scrubs again. Lain isn't ready as a 4LC IMO, don't think Mallet is ready either since both weren't too impressive in the AHL/ECHL, but Lain's faceoff ability could e valuable but like DCT said, I'd rather have better players than faceoff winners, just look at Toronto getting dominated in faceoffs by Boston. Schroeder as a 3LC with Higgins and Hansen could be interesting if Gillis can't acquire a better 3LC. This team is just not going to beat up anyone so I'm fine with a speedy 3rd line that can create chances.

And hopefully Gillis can acquire a top 6 forward for the 2nd line and all of a sudden the top 9 doesn't look too bad. He'd need to sign a decent LHD to replace Edler though(assuming he'd be the one getting traded). And obviously Ballard would have to be bought out as well, Raymond walks, and Lu gets traded for anything or waived justt to get him off of the books.

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Burrows - Kesler - Top 6
Higgins - Schroeder/3LC - Hansen
??? - ??? - ???

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Garrison - Tanev
Decent LHD - Corrado

Schneider
Lack/Vet Backup


Obviously not a stacked lineup but this team is limited with the cap going down. This lineup would also give the team some cap flexibility moving forward with the cpa very likely going up after next year. I move Kassian with the Sedins since I don't see him fitting well with Kesler and IMO next year will be a huge year for him, another mediocre offensive year and that trade starts to look terrible and the word bust will start getting thrown around quite a bit since most power forwards usually figure it out by then. His confidence and game could take off if he scores 20-25+ with the Twins.
- Nucker101

As soon as he won a top6 role on the K-Wings, he went on a tear, and was very impressive.

But definitely not close to the NHL. My hope is that he has a solid year as the affiliate's 3C this year. Of course this all hinges on whether the Canucks actually have their own affiliate playing in 2013/14.

Deserved to be in the AHL over Friesen, but in the end, that position may have hurt his development more than helped, tbh.

Gillis will get creative
- VANTEL

Another move to consider is simply moving Edler for a high pick in this draft or a young player under a ELC contract. That way Gillis can go after one of the top 6 forwards in free agency and he gets back a young player.


Basically I'm saying that he could essentially get a:

Horton/Clarkson/Riberio + 1st/good prospect/young player on ELC

Instead of just Simmonds + 2nd/3rd

That first deal is a pretty damn good return for Edler, eh?

I would like him to play AHL for a year , not rush the kid
- VANTEL

That's the likely scenario.

If Jensen has a great camp, they should at least give him another look.

The AHL is the best place for Jensen to hone his defensive game without getting over his head and crushing his confidence.

But if he can keep up an adequate top6 point pace in the NHL, screw his defensive game

Another move to consider is simply moving Edler for a high pick in this draft or a young player under a ELC contract. That way Gillis can go after one of the top 6 forwards in free agency and he gets back a young player.


Basically I'm saying that he could essentially get a:

Horton/Clarkson/Riberio + 1st/good prospect/young player on ELC

Instead of just Simmonds + 2nd/3rd

That first deal is a pretty damn good return for Edler, eh?
- Nucker101

5th overall from Carolina?

Monahan, Shinkaruk, Nichushkin, or Lindholm

That's the likely scenario.

If Jensen has a great camp, they should at least give him another look.

The AHL is the best place for Jensen to hone his defensive game without getting over his head and crushing his confidence.

But if he can keep up an adequate top6 point pace in the NHL, screw his defensive game
- Fosco

The one thing I wonder about developing a young offensive player's defensive game is that if it end sup hurting his offensive development. Basically look at a guy like Schroeder, he was supposed to be a Patrick Kane-lite, very creative and supposed to be highly skilled and offensive, yet he didn't look to amazing offensively this year on the 2nd PP unit and at even strength. Not saying that he sucked, he actually surprised me with his defensive game and willingness to go to the slot and front of the net but I wonder if his offensive development was stunted a bit.

5th overall from Carolina?

Monahan, Shinkaruk, Nichushkin, or Lindholm
- Fosco

Anything in the top 10 plus the money freed up to go out and sign a top 6 UFA would be some nice asset management.


Edit: So basically:

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Burrows - Kesler - Top 6 UFA
Higgins - Schroeder - Hansen
????? - ????? - ?????

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Garrison - Tanev
UFA - Corrado

Schneider
Lack/UFA

Prospects: Gaunce, Jensen, Top 10 Pick, Canucks Original 1st rounder, plus guys like Schroeder, Kassian, Tanev, Lack and Corrado already in the lineup and the depth prospects.


All of a sudden the prospect pool looks a little deeper with that type of a trade, two first rounders in this draft would really help.

Just over a month to draft weekend, that's where I'm hoping to see something happen regarding moves for the team.

BBQ'd hamburgers and deep fried fries tonight...wow I love that with an ice cold beer!!

Just over a month to draft weekend, that's where I'm hoping to see something happen regarding moves for the team.

BBQ'd hamburgers and deep fried fries tonight...wow I love that with an ice cold beer!!
- LeftCoaster

Sounds (frank)ing good, too bad I'm on a diet so no junk food.

Just over a month to draft weekend, that's where I'm hoping to see something happen regarding moves for the team.

BBQ'd hamburgers and deep fried fries tonight...wow I love that with an ice cold beer!!
- LeftCoaster

Watch the waist line . Screw it . Enjoy

5th overall from Carolina?

Monahan, Shinkaruk, Nichushkin, or Lindholm
- Fosco

Wonder what the odds Carolina might actually move the pick ? Heard lots of talk about in on all 3 western Canada team threads ... Hurricanes could potentially turn the pick into something great if thre is as much interest as it seems

Watch the waist line . Screw it . Enjoy
- VANTEL

I'm a clean cut 265lbs these days, not an ounce of fat on me.

Sounds (frank)ing good, too bad I'm on a diet so no junk food.
- Nucker101

I decided to go dry until the 1st day of summer.

I decided to go dry until the 1st day of summer.
- thundachunk

Never go in dry, always use some KY or spit

I'm a clean cut 265lbs these days, not an ounce of fat on me.
- LeftCoaster

Ounces at 265 for sure ,but pounds

Sounds pretty Byf I mean Buff

5th overall from Carolina?

Monahan, Shinkaruk, Nichushkin, or Lindholm
- Fosco

They would probably use that to get Marc Staal a couple years earlier .

In all honesty as good as the oilers young guns are, none of them could hold Tavaras' jock strap. Tavaras has an MVP season with brad Boyes and M Moulson. Guy is top 5 players in the world. I would take JT over Stamkos in a second
- Bieksa#3

I've heard all the arguments. Tavares being nominated for the Hart as the 17th overall scorer is a complete joke. And to say he did it all alone is even a bigger joke. Moulson and Boyes are good. They also have some good puck moving D in Lubo and Streit. Everyone said Tavares made PA Parenteau what he was. I think he proved them all wrong as he scored more this year with out Tavares. Moulson scored 44 points this year.

Hall score 50 points in 45 games. 3 more points in 3 less games.

Tavares 12.7% of NYI overall points.
Next highest Islander Moulson 44 points

Hall 14.6% of Oilers overall points
Next highest Oiler - Gagner 38 points. not even the same line.

So I disagree that none of the Oilers 3 first cant hold Tavares's jock strap.

But what ever. Keep the Oiler hatred alive...

I think Edler for Lou Eriksson would be a great deal. One Swede for another and his Salary is a Booth type salary.

I've heard all the arguments. Tavares being nominated for the Hart as the 17th overall scorer is a complete joke. And to say he did it all alone is even a bigger joke. Moulson and Boyes are good. They also have some good puck moving D in Lubo and Streit. Everyone said Tavares made PA Parenteau what he was. I think he proved them all wrong as he scored more this year with out Tavares. Moulson scored 44 points this year.

Hall score 50 points in 45 games. 3 more points in 3 less games.

Tavares 12.7% of NYI overall points.
Next highest Islander Moulson 44 points

Hall 14.6% of Oilers overall points
Next highest Oiler - Gagner 38 points. not even the same line.

So I disagree that none of the Oilers 3 first cant hold Tavares's jock strap.

But what ever. Keep the Oiler hatred alive...
- Iggysbff

Everyone hates the Oilers, it goes back to the 80's when they were the dirtiest team yet the biggest cry babies in the league.

I think Edler for Lou Eriksson would be a great deal. One Swede for another and his Salary is a Booth type salary.
- Bakwas

I'd be ok with that.

I've heard all the arguments. Tavares being nominated for the Hart as the 17th overall scorer is a complete joke. And to say he did it all alone is even a bigger joke. Moulson and Boyes are good. They also have some good puck moving D in Lubo and Streit. Everyone said Tavares made PA Parenteau what he was. I think he proved them all wrong as he scored more this year with out Tavares. Moulson scored 44 points this year.

Hall score 50 points in 45 games. 3 more points in 3 less games.

Tavares 12.7% of NYI overall points.
Next highest Islander Moulson 44 points

Hall 14.6% of Oilers overall points
Next highest Oiler - Gagner 38 points. not even the same line.

So I disagree that none of the Oilers 3 first cant hold Tavares's jock strap.

But what ever. Keep the Oiler hatred alive...
- Iggysbff

Tavares

Everyone hates the Oilers, it goes back to the 80's when they were the dirtiest team yet the biggest cry babies in the league.
- LeftCoaster

Careful with the crybaby comment my friend ... Nucks players have not done themselves any favours when it comes to that category past couple years

way to go! 100%, from 1 to 10, you have completely overvalued your player and basically insulted each team involved in the potential trade.

dreamer...