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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 7:42 PM ET
As long as Edler goes, right?
- Fosco



Either Edler Hamhuis or Garrison. Edler is the one without a NTC . I honestly think that Vancouver has underacheived for most years and there should be only two untouchables on this team and their contract ends next year .Then all bets are off
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 7:44 PM ET
Why would the Nucks want to trade Edler??
- Fruitcakenipple

We need scoring
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 7:45 PM ET
predictions are up.


Who you got?

- IanEsplen


Ott Bruins Kings Hawks
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 14 @ 7:47 PM ET
I do.

Certain players make/define teams.

Canucks aren't the Canucks without the Sedins or Burrows.

EDIT: cue the "Burrows really defines the Canucks—biters/divers" comments...

- Fosco


Will have to respectfully disagree. When the players that define your team can no longer produce in the post season then any responsible GM would have to look at other options if the value is there. Burrows is a player I'd keep largely because I don't think the return he'd net would ever match his effort and heart. Keeping the Sedins after going MIA for the last 3 playoff series is questionable. Again, I'm not sure I want that to define my franchise but of course I will reiterate that the value in trade would have to be there.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

May 14 @ 7:50 PM ET
So did we decide the last place guy needs to blog?

I'm zooming in on it

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 7:50 PM ET
I do.

Certain players make/define teams.

Canucks aren't the Canucks without the Sedins or Burrows.

EDIT: cue the "Burrows really defines the Canucks—biters/divers" comments...

- Fosco


4 of 5 Playoffs we have underacheived . I am not to sure what definition the Canucks have. Biters/divers whinners are facts not spiteful comments from other fan bases. We earned those names.


I know players like Doughty Keith Couture Thorton Bolland Marchand are hated also ,but we have three of the top ten hated players in the game. Sometimes I wish they would just shut up and play. Take a page from the Leafs book last night.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 7:53 PM ET
Will have to respectfully disagree. When the players that define your team can no longer produce in the post season then any responsible GM would have to look at other options if the value is there. Burrows is a player I'd keep largely because I don't think the return he'd net would ever match his effort and heart. Keeping the Sedins after going MIA for the last 3 playoff series is questionable. Again, I'm not sure I want that to define my franchise but of course I will reiterate that the value in trade would have to be there.
- AlexF



I agree with everything . I would let the Sedins play out their last year because of what they have done for the community . I would try to find a better first line though or even split them up
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

May 14 @ 7:54 PM ET
I do.

Certain players make/define teams.

Canucks aren't the Canucks without the Sedins or Burrows.

EDIT: cue the "Burrows really defines the Canucks—biters/divers" comments...

- Fosco


That may be true, but the reality is that this Canucks core hasn't won the cup. Heading into this off-season with a list of untouchables seems silly, given that this core has had ample time to get the job done. Nobody is saying that Burrows, or Kesler, or whoever needs to be dealt, but in my opinion it would be foolish to hang up any call without doing due diligence.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 7:56 PM ET
That may be true, but the reality is that this Canucks core hasn't won the cup. Heading into this off-season with a list of untouchables seems silly, given that this core has had ample time to get the job done. Nobody is saying that Burrows, or Kesler, or whoever needs to be dealt, but in my opinion it would be foolish to hang up any call without doing due diligence.
- Michael_Stuart


Well said
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 14 @ 7:56 PM ET
4 of 5 Playoffs we have underacheived . I am not to sure what definition the Canucks have. Biters/divers whinners are facts not spiteful comments from other fan bases. We earned those names.


I know players like Doughty Keith Couture Thorton Bolland Marchand but we have three of the top ten hated players in the game. Sometimes I wish they would just shut up and play. Take a page from the Leafs book last night.

- VANTEL


Agreed. When staring at the faces of your franchise becomes a trip down memory lane every time then that can't be good for your team's future. Some of the core needs to re-shuffled.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 14 @ 7:58 PM ET
No chance wings beat chicago.

Kings
Bruins
Pens
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 14 @ 7:59 PM ET
I agree with everything . I would let the Sedins play out their last year because of what they have done for the community . I would try to find a better first line though or even split them up
- VANTEL


If I'm MG I'd have a chat with the Sedins now about the next contract. If they can come back for say 4m per then that becomes our 2nd line. In the meantime, as you say, it's time to think outside the box to acquire a new top line.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 8:02 PM ET
Agreed. When staring at the faces of your franchise becomes a trip down memory lane every time then that can't be good for your team's future. Some of the core needs to re-shuffled.
- AlexF


I was impressed with Kassian and even Schroeder last year . I would like to see them injected as regulars and allow guys like Archie and Corrado to play also.

If we can get a stay at home tough guy ,like a younger Wille Mitchell, for a 6 spot ,and a better passer for the top 4 , then our Dcore should be ok for 3 years or so.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 14 @ 8:04 PM ET
predictions are up.


Who you got?

- IanEsplen



CHI, LA, BOS, and PIT
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 8:05 PM ET
If I'm MG I'd have a chat with the Sedins now about the next contract. If they can come back for say 4m per then that becomes our 2nd line. In the meantime, as you say, it's time to think outside the box to acquire a new top line.
- AlexF



An Edler for Simmonds trade would give you a top RHF . We do have other big pieces that can be packaged for a top line center . A UFA or Booth could be LHF also . Many options to take in.

I also think a Burrows Kesler Simmonds would be an awesome first line.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 14 @ 8:06 PM ET
Will have to respectfully disagree. When the players that define your team can no longer produce in the post season then any responsible GM would have to look at other options if the value is there. Burrows is a player I'd keep largely because I don't think the return he'd net would ever match his effort and heart. Keeping the Sedins after going MIA for the last 3 playoff series is questionable. Again, I'm not sure I want that to define my franchise but of course I will reiterate that the value in trade would have to be there.
- AlexF


They have gone MIA the last 1 playoffs.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 14 @ 8:07 PM ET
An Edler for Simmonds trade would give you a top RHF . We do have other big pieces that can be packaged for a top line center . A UFA or Booth could be LHF also . Many options to take in.

I also think a Burrows Kesler Simmonds would be an awesome first line.

- VANTEL


Kesler can't even center an awesome 2nd line.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 8:11 PM ET
Kesler can't even center an awesome 2nd line.
- DrChristianTroy


Who was are awesome second line?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 14 @ 8:11 PM ET
That may be true, but the reality is that this Canucks core hasn't won the cup. Heading into this off-season with a list of untouchables seems silly, given that this core has had ample time to get the job done. Nobody is saying that Burrows, or Kesler, or whoever needs to be dealt, but in my opinion it would be foolish to hang up any call without doing due diligence.
- Michael_Stuart


No Canucks core has won a cup.

1 team wins the cup a year.

I've watched them not win the cup 29 times and enjoyed every season, regardless.

DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 14 @ 8:12 PM ET
Who was are awesome second line?
- VANTEL


We didn't have one.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 14 @ 8:12 PM ET
An Edler for Simmonds trade would give you a top RHF . We do have other big pieces that can be packaged for a top line center . A UFA or Booth could be LHF also . Many options to take in.

I also think a Burrows Kesler Simmonds would be an awesome first line.

- VANTEL



Not sold on that as a top line. They all seem like similar players, and I don't see the pure skill and playmaking that most top lines have but that's just me. I still maintain that AV's system and the coaching in general was the biggest problem for this team's lack of scoring. That being said, I wouldn't be against trading Edler for Simmonds at all.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 8:12 PM ET
Yak for Nino?
- VANTEL


Pffft. Would need to be Yak for Tavares
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 8:12 PM ET
They have gone MIA the last 1 playoffs.
- Fosco


If you are referring to last year playing good , that has been their best playoff ever . The other ones not so much.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 14 @ 8:13 PM ET
If you are referring to last year playing good , that has been their best playoff ever . The other ones not so much.
- VANTEL


They were both in the Conn Smythe conversation before the Boston series two years ago. I wouldn't call that MIA.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 14 @ 8:13 PM ET
Not sold on that as a top line. They all seem like similar players, and I don't see the pure skill and playmaking that most top lines have but that's just me. I still maintain that AV's system and the coaching in general was the biggest problem for this team's lack of scoring. That being said, I wouldn't be against trading Edler for Simmonds at all.
- Nucker101



So if we are paying the guy that is always injured to be a center and no one has faith in him why is everyone so hell bent not to trade him?
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