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He was on pace to score 40 goals again. and played at a PPG level. You would love to get that from Jensen. - poisondhearts37
It's amazing how people post things and have no clue what they are actually talking about.
Nash had a very very good year this year.
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hertzman
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Sorry, had to stop reading when I saw the words, "sign Mason Raymond." |
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It's funny - about 1 1/2 years ago I was posting on this site that the Canucks were in cap hell and was blasted for saying such.
Cap hell is no fun.. trust me. - CaptainBlackhawk
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Sorry, had to stop reading when I saw the words, "sign Mason Raymond." - hertzman
I didn't stop reading I just LOL. |
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It's amazing how people post things and have no clue what they are actually talking about.
Nash had a very very good year this year. - CaptainBlackhawk
27th in league points for $7.8 mil. meh |
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27th in league points for $7.8 mil. meh - A_SteamingLombardi
With the difference in a condensed schedule between the 27th overall scorer and a top 10 scorer being 7 total points. And he missed four games.
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Sorry, had to stop reading when I saw the words, "sign Mason Raymond." - hertzman
I believe he was just using that as an example, you could use that 2.5 for a different UFA as well. Either way, it was a solid blog and goes to show that the Canucks will not be buying any 3 million+ players in the free agent and trade markets so anyone expecting that will likely be very disappinted barring some huge trade. As I said before, with all of the NTC's and lack of cap space and flexibility in general, what Gillis does with the coaching staff will be huge.
Gillis has made mistakes like every GM, but I think he realizes that AV, Bowness, Brown plus players like Luongo, Ballard, Raymond, etc. cannot be here next season and that this team has scoring issues, a lack of an identity, and is aging. I'm confident that he'll aggressively try to fix the scoring problem because clearly if he brought in Roy and was also trying to acquire Clowe/Torres on top of that, he knew that this term needed offensive help. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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It's amazing how people post things and have no clue what they are actually talking about.
Nash had a very very good year this year. - CaptainBlackhawk
Yup, I'd never pay a single player that amount in a hard salary cap league, but I'm not sure what people were expecting. As long as he's top 30 in scoring and in the top 10/15 for goals scored then he's playing the way he's capable of. |
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I believe he was just using that as an example, you could use that 2.5 for a different UFA as well. Either way, it was a solid blog and goes to show that the Canucks will not be buying any 3 million+ players in the free agent and trade markets so anyone expecting that will likely be very disappinted barring some huge trade. As I said before, with all of the NTC's and lack of cap space and flexibility in general, what Gillis does with the coaching staff will be huge.
Gillis has made mistakes like every GM, but I think he realizes that AV, Bowness, Brown plus players like Luongo, Ballard, Raymond, etc. cannot be here next season and that this team has scoring issues, a lack of an identity, and is aging. I'm confident that he'll aggressively try to fix the scoring problem because clearly if he brought in Roy and was also trying to acquire Clowe/Torres on top of that, he knew that this term needed offensive help. - Nucker101
Solid start... Terrible finish
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I'm tellin ya...Luongo...will be the starting goaltender next season because (A) he's still very good & (B) his contract makes it very difficult to trade him. Although guys like Zetterberg and Hossa have similar contracts, they're not trying to trade them...but I digress.
This will, hopefully, be one of the busiest summers in Canucks history. Lapierre, Raymond, Malhotra, Roy, Sestito, Pinizzotto, Booth, Barker and Ballard will all be gone from this group. Why bring back what hasn't worked?
A combination of Higgins, Hansen, Edler, Kesler, Bieksa & Schneider could and should all be used as trade bait to change this team! - LeftCoaster
Luongo will be traded for scraps or bought out. Go back and look at the Save% leaders for the past 3 years. Schneider's been ahead of Luongo every year, and Luongo's getting progressively worse. Schneider's ENTERING his prime... Luongo spent his prime choking every single season. It's a no brainer who should be kept... and like I said a looooong time ago, people can't expect a big return for Luongo. Just be happy to get him off the books.
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Buy out Keith Ballard.
Buy out or trade David Booth.
Kevin Bieksa to Ottawa for Cody Ceci.
Cory Schneider & Janick Hansen to NYI for Nino Niederreiter & Brock Nelson.
Alex Edler & Jordan Schroeder to Philadelphia for Brayden Schenn & Matt Read.
Done!
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With the difference in a condensed schedule between the 27th overall scorer and a top 10 scorer being 7 total points. And he missed four games. - CaptainBlackhawk
OK, he had a good year, but a very very good year?? |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Luongo will be traded for scraps or bought out. Go back and look at the Save% leaders for the past 3 years. Schneider's been ahead of Luongo every year, and Luongo's getting progressively worse. Schneider's ENTERING his prime... Luongo spent his prime choking every single season. It's a no brainer who should be kept... and like I said a looooong time ago, people can't expect a big return for Luongo. Just be happy to get him off the books. - DrChristianTroy
He'll most likely be traded, but I can wish. He'll never be bought out, get real. |
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He'll most likely be traded, but I can wish. He'll never be bought out, get real. - LeftCoaster
This is a revenue sharing league. Posting a loss for a season is no big deal. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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This is a revenue sharing league. Posting a loss for a season is no big deal. - DrChristianTroy
Writing a $27 million dollar cheque for someone to walk away from your business is stupid, insane, whatever you wanna call it. Never happen!
Gillis should have to live with the commitment he made to Luongo. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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This is a revenue sharing league. Posting a loss for a season is no big deal. - DrChristianTroy
Revenue sharing, not profit sharing. Writing a big buy out cheque doesn't affect revenues. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Solid start... Terrible finish
Burkie? - RF_4eva
IMO it has more to do with AV getting more and more say and influence on how the roster would be built and also doing a horrible job of coaching and adapting to the players that Gillis brought in, which made Gillis look like a horrible GM. As has been pointed out before even Markus Naslund had this to say back when he played under AV:
"I think instead of supporting one another or making a play, we're either just flipping the puck out or flipping it in and then have to go chasing after it," he said. "Then it takes 25 or 30 seconds to get it back.
"I'd like us to have the puck more. I'd like the whole team to have the puck more. If you look at the good teams, they have got the puck. Look at a team like Detroit, that's their game and that's why they are so tough to play against because they are always supporting each other and holding onto the puck."
And people wonder why a 60 point player that Gillis brought in like Derek Roy, who has a high amount of skill and creativity end sup struggling here after a decent start(before AV got him to "adapt"). David Booth(injuries aside), looked good his first few games here and now even when healthy he suddenly went from an annual 20+ goal scorer to looking like a 4th line plug? Both of these guys have been top 6 forwards and point producers for many years, so do I blame the GM who brought in these proven top 6 forwards or should I blame the coach who can't get production out of them? And it can't just be a coincidence that players like Grabner and Hodgson have gone on to thrive offensively on new teams.
AV and his coaching staff deserve all the blame they're getting right now, I'm much more willing to give Gillis the benefit of the doubt.
I just hope to God that the new coach is nothing like AV when it comes to playing style, managing his players, adjusting to his own roster and to other teams, etc or else this team is (frank)ed. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Luongo will be traded for scraps or bought out. Go back and look at the Save% leaders for the past 3 years. Schneider's been ahead of Luongo every year, and Luongo's getting progressively worse. Schneider's ENTERING his prime... Luongo spent his prime choking every single season. It's a no brainer who should be kept... and like I said a looooong time ago, people can't expect a big return for Luongo. Just be happy to get him off the books. - DrChristianTroy
I agree with this. Unless the return for Schneider is just ridiculously good, I'd much rather keep keep Schneider. |
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hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society. Joined: 07.03.2007
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It's funny - about 1 1/2 years ago I was posting on this site that the Canucks were in cap hell and was blasted for saying such.
Cap hell is no fun.. trust me. - CaptainBlackhawk
Blasted by who? I think we all knew that it would come to this. The Canucks were built to "win now" and as such took on some big contracts. They didn't win and are now stuck with a few terrible contracts. |
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This is a revenue sharing league. Posting a loss for a season is no big deal. - DrChristianTroy
If the league is going to share, then trade him to Phoenix and split his salary 30 ways. |
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He was on pace to score 40 goals again. and played at a PPG level. You would love to get that from Jensen. - poisondhearts37
Jensen= Nash ? Since when has this been an accurate comparison ? Just curious, first I've heard of that one |
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hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society. Joined: 07.03.2007
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Jensen= Nash ? Since when has this been an accurate comparison ? Just curious, first I've heard of that one - Redmile247
Jensen will be way better than Nash. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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This is a revenue sharing league. Posting a loss for a season is no big deal. - DrChristianTroy
They'd at least have to waive him first and see if anyone bites. BTW there's also some interesting clauses in his contract that could maybe expose some sort of loophole. Especially the second "out clause" when his NTC is no longer in effect and he could be moved like Tim Thomas was, to a budget team that wants a high cap hit with a low actual salary.
The first comes five years into the extension. If Luongo isn’t pleased with where the team is at, or where it’s heading, he can then trigger a trade. The out clause is timed for what should be an organizational crossroads — one year after the Sedins’ current long-term deal is up. The Canucks have agreed to accommodate the request by moving Luongo at that point.
It’s likely Luongo would be a valuable commodity, coveted by NHL teams even at age 36. If it were to happen, the team which traded for him would owe him $27.2 million for the final seven years of his deal.
Two years later, after the contract extension’s seventh year, the Canucks have a reciprocal clause. If they want to go in another direction, they will have an opportunity to move Luongo despite his no-trade clause.
Source: http://www.faceoff.com/st...9e-4c39-ac85-6c328be5e1d1 |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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If the league is going to share, then trade him to Phoenix and split his salary 30 ways. - A_SteamingLombardi
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Buy out Keith Ballard.
Buy out or trade David Booth.
Kevin Bieksa to Ottawa for Cody Ceci.
Cory Schneider & Janick Hansen to NYI for Nino Niederreiter & Brock Nelson.
Alex Edler & Jordan Schroeder to Philadelphia for Brayden Schenn & Matt Read.
Done! - LeftCoaster
Haha if you can get any of the bottom 3 done you should be gillis' replacement |
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