With St. Louis getting knocked out early again, any chance we could get a player like Jackman if they're looking to make some moves?

Also, Lauridsen played above expectations when he got his call-up, but unless the defense gets decimated in training camp (highly likely), he's going to most likely start in the AHL and be the first call-up.

I'm rooting for the guy. If he can offer some offensive punch and puck moving ability on a 2nd pairing with Grossmann, plus if Gus continues his good play on the third pairing then this defense looks a lot better. Coburn needs to rebound no doubt and be playoff-Coburn more consistently.
- ravishingone

i don't see coby as an offensive guy as far as production. he needs to get back to making better decisions w/ the puck and using his speed to his advantage.

if we use both amnesties, that will be sufficient. besides, i don't think there are enuf good dmen available for us to trade coby. mez has little value to any team right now, except us.
- isaiah520

Don't feel like the Flyers are getting enough (combined) out of Mez & Coburn for the price.

With St. Louis getting knocked out early again, any chance we could get a player like Jackman if they're looking to make some moves?

Also, Lauridsen played above expectations when he got his call-up, but unless the defense gets decimated in training camp (highly likely), he's going to most likely start in the AHL and be the first call-up.
- jmatchett383

Why would we want a player like Jackman? We have enough defensive Dmen, and Jackman is no longer in his prime, either. Many other better options than him.

But there are other ways to do it. I'm sure Vancouver would be receptive to Matt Read being a starting point for Edler if we never even offer B Schenn or Coots. Read would by no means be the only piece involved, but a good starting point.
- JAKEw1234

not if I'm the nucks

Don't feel like the Flyers are getting enough (combined) out of Mez & Coburn for the price.
- stveshdy

no, but mez, who has a cloud over his career as it is, only has one more yr on his deal. i think we have to do some hoping w/ coby. there's a real dearth of dmen in the FA mkt, so the other avenue of trades would deplete our forward core. wish we had developed one of our own.

Here's another thought no one is posting about. Most teams are always looking to improve their defense, if we traded say Hartnell for edler ( which I think van would consider) because they need to get more grittier than why couldn't we then trade coburn or mez for Offensive player. Or sign like a clarkson to help replace hartnell and trade trade coburn or mez for picks / ProspectS? Point being it doesn't have to be one move to find #1 dman it could have follow up moves. We have proven we have dmen that can step up into 5/6/7 positiOns. Like nutter said paying 4/5 mil for 5/6 dmen is way to much in cap world [/img]

I personally would like to see the Flyers move one of Mez or Coburn. Buyout Briere and Bryzgalov.

That would free up some money and give them flexibility to take care of their own guys or look for help elsewhere.
- stveshdy

I know I'm in the minority, but I think moving players based on injuries and a weird half season where we started poorly and diddn't have the practice time to right the ship is a little too panicky. Were I an opposing GM, I'd be looking poach Mez or Coburn. Meszaros has been fantastic when he has been healthy and his injuries are not cumulative like a Knee or a Consussion. Shoulder injuries happend and they are much easily fixable than others. Coburn has had some cold spots in his career but he always bounces back, and selling him low is not going to help us. Now if the Pricetag for Yandle came down or some other golden oppertuity arose, I would trade either of these guys. But I would not be surprised to see both of them as a starting D pairing going deep into the playoffs.

Here's another thought no one is posting about. Most teams are always looking to improve their defense, if we traded say Hartnell for edler ( which I think van would consider) because they need to get more grittier than why couldn't we then trade coburn or mez for Offensive player. Or sign like a clarkson to help replace hartnell and trade trade coburn or mez for picks / Prospects? Point being it doesn't have to be one move to find #1 dman it could have follow up moves. We have proven we have dmen that can step up into 5/6/7 positiOns. Like nutter said paying 4/5 mil for 5/6 dmen is way to much in cap world
- SMS4016[/img]

This bolded plan, I can agree with... I don't think Van will trade straight up Hartnell for Edler, because Edler is #1 dman and they could certainly get more than just a Hartnell from another team. Maybe Hartnell + Read? Read can be easily replaced in our top 6 by B Schenn, and I'm sure Clarkson can equal or exceed what Hartnell does. They're nearly equal players, imo; Hartnell just has a bit more of a scoring touch, even though Clarkson can still put up good numbers.

I know I'm in the minority, but I think moving players based on injuries and a weird half season where we started poorly and diddn't have the practice time to right the ship is a little too panicky. Were I an opposing GM, I'd be looking poach Mez or Coburn. Meszaros has been fantastic when he has been healthy and his injuries are not cumulative like a Knee or a Consussion. Shoulder injuries happend and they are much easily fixable than others. Coburn has had some cold spots in his career but he always bounces back, and selling him low is not going to help us. Now if the Pricetag for Yandle came down or some other golden oppertuity arose, I would trade either of these guys. But I would not be surprised to see both of them as a starting D pairing going deep into the playoffs.
- flyler

Actually when he was healthy this year Mez was depressingly bad.

This bolded plan, I can agree with... I don't think Van will trade straight up Hartnell for Edler, because Edler is #1 dman and they could certainly get more than just a Hartnell from another team. Maybe Hartnell + Read? Read can be easily replaced in our top 6 by B Schenn, and I'm sure Clarkson can equal or exceed what Hartnell does. They're nearly equal players, imo; Hartnell just has a bit more of a scoring touch, even though Clarkson can still put up good numbers.
- JAKEw1234

Many a move can be made to improve this team. Full faith in homer to make some moves. He might not get everything done this off season but as long as its for the the future I'll be happy. Should be interesting. Lot of teams Looking to make changes this year.

Many a move can be made to improve this team. Full faith in homer to make some moves. He might not get everything done this off season but as long as its for the the future I'll be happy. Should be interesting. Lot of teams Looking to make changes this year.
- SMS4016

Moves can always be made. You need them to make sense & be at the right cost. The goal is to help the team but not hurt them now or going forward.

I know I'm in the minority, but I think moving players based on injuries and a weird half season where we started poorly and diddn't have the practice time to right the ship is a little too panicky. Were I an opposing GM, I'd be looking poach Mez or Coburn. Meszaros has been fantastic when he has been healthy and his injuries are not cumulative like a Knee or a Consussion. Shoulder injuries happend and they are much easily fixable than others. Coburn has had some cold spots in his career but he always bounces back, and selling him low is not going to help us. Now if the Pricetag for Yandle came down or some other golden oppertuity arose, I would trade either of these guys. But I would not be surprised to see both of them as a starting D pairing going deep into the playoffs.
- flyler

The cost just isn't worth the production. I'm not giving either player away but I would be keeping all options open.

Seen a couple of mock drafts. At #11 they have Flyers selecting Samuel Morin. Any thoughts? Don't know much about him (researching online).
- stveshdy

Must have been Craig Button's mock draft that you saw. He's the only one I've seen that has Morin going nearly that high. Morin is a huge defensive defenseman who skates well for his size and has a bit of an edge to his game. Minimal offensive upside (although Button thinks it could develop over time).

Actually when he was healthy this year Mez was depressingly bad.
- JAKEw1234

Meszaros was never actually healthy this year. In the lineup for two short stretches, yes. Healthy, no.

Must have been Craig Button's mock draft that you saw. He's the only one I've seen that has Morin going nearly that high. Morin is a huge defensive defenseman who skates well for his size and has a bit of an edge to his game. Minimal offensive upside (although Button thinks it could develop over time).
- bmeltzer

For all that they could just look for Zadorov who probably has better offensive upside. He didn't score last night but he let his physical presence be know and used his reach to stop a few Barrie rushes.

With the advantage of a playoff run Bo Horvat has made the most of it & is in the talk for me and maybe others at #11

Honestly if Nichushkin, Pulock, Zadorov, Ristolainen, and Nurse are all gone by 11 then someone much better than Morin will have dropped into our hands. I'd rather see the Flyers pick anyone from the previous list (or anyone who drops to 11 as a result of them all being picked) than Morin. Where did this mock draft have Pulock being picked?
- JAKEw1234

If Pulock, Nurse, Ristolainen and Zadorov are ALL gone by #11 -- plus Jones going first overall -- there are going to be some damn good forwards who would be the potential best available player.

Must have been Craig Button's mock draft that you saw. He's the only one I've seen that has Morin going nearly that high. Morin is a huge defensive defenseman who skates well for his size and has a bit of an edge to his game. Minimal offensive upside (although Button thinks it could develop over time).
- bmeltzer

Take it with another grain of salt but here is another that has the Flyers going with Morin.

http://www.rotoworld.com/...241/218/nhl-mock-draft-10

If Pulock, Nurse, Ristolainen and Zadorov are ALL gone by #11 -- plus Jones going first overall -- there are going to be some damn good forwards who would be the potential best available player.
- bmeltzer

That's right. We have it pretty good at #11. My only concern is Pulock being gone by 11, but other than that 11 is a good spot. With all the talent, I don't see Morin fitting into the mix at #11, or even top 15 imo.

Take it with another grain of salt but here is another that has the Flyers going with Morin.

http://www.rotoworld.com/...241/218/nhl-mock-draft-10
- ob18

if this mock ends up having much truth at all, it leaves Nichushkin, Risto, AND Pulock all available by our pick. If that ends up being the situation, and I'm Homer sitting at the Flyers table at the draft, I think damn hard about scrambling to make a last second trade to acquire a pick #12 to #15 on top of our #11. I'm not sure how the draft works, though. Can trades only be made before player picking begins, or can they be made at any point?

if this mock ends up having much truth at all, it leaves Nichushkin, Risto, AND Pulock all available by our pick. If that ends up being the situation, and I'm Homer sitting at the Flyers table at the draft, I think damn hard about scrambling to make a last second trade to acquire a pick #12 to #15 on top of our #11. I'm not sure how the draft works, though. Can trades only be made before player picking begins, or can they be made at any point?
- JAKEw1234

Hahaha agree 100%

if this mock ends up having much truth at all, it leaves Nichushkin, Risto, AND Pulock all available by our pick. If that ends up being the situation, and I'm Homer sitting at the Flyers table at the draft, I think damn hard about scrambling to make a last second trade to acquire a pick #12 to #15 on top of our #11. I'm not sure how the draft works, though. Can trades only be made before player picking begins, or can they be made at any point?
- JAKEw1234

You likely wouldn't have to scramble for a last second trade teams would see the board unfolding and work the phones or walk over to Homer so they could have something ready if it kept going the way they'd want to move up.

It's a door you keep open.

I would hit the roof if the draft board shakes out with Nichushkin, Pulock, Ristolainen, Erne and Hägg all still on the board and the Flyers a) do not take one of them and b) go off the board to take a project like Morin without trading down first to pick up additional assets.

That's right. We have it pretty good at #11. My only concern is Pulock being gone by 11, but other than that 11 is a good spot. With all the talent, I don't see Morin fitting into the mix at #11, or even top 15 imo.
- JAKEw1234

If Pulock goes in the top 10, so be it. The Flyers should still get a fine player -- and I don't mind if it would be a forward. Actually, if Nichushkin slides to #11 because of the KHL concerns, the Flyers would be nuts IMO not to jump on that pick. They'll have to wait two seasons for him, but so what? You often wait 1-2 seasons for a kid out of major junior, anyway.

I would hit the roof if the draft board shakes out with Nichushkin, Pulock, Ristolainen, Erne and Hägg all still on the board and the Flyers a) do not take one of them and b) go off the board to take a project like Morin without trading down first to pick up additional assets.
- bmeltzer

I would pay good money to see you hit the roof, I'd prefer the Flyers not mortgaging their future in the process though.