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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 11 @ 11:14 PM ET
True...assuming the run on those four D men (plus Jones) and Drouin, MacKinnon and Barkov are gone:

We're looking (at least 2 out of):

Nichushkin
Lindholm
Shinkaruk
Monahan
Horvat

some nice players right there...

- exlund


Fixed
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 11 @ 11:16 PM ET
Have to be all over that.
- stveshdy


He'd be an ideal Kimmo replacement, IMO
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 11 @ 11:16 PM ET
I agree...the problem is, they could have done that this year and had a lot of good options to take over the job this summer.
- Jsaquella


I'm not thrilled he is back. However, after thinking about it, I won't kill them for it because we as a fan base preach patience in other areas. In this case they did and I'm assuming the moves Homer will make this offseason will reflect the organization's support of Lava's philosophy.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 11 @ 11:16 PM ET
Fixed
- ob18


BoHo
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 11 @ 11:17 PM ET
I'm not thrilled he is back. However, after thinking about it, I won't kill them for it because we as a fan base preach patience in other areas. In this case they did and I'm assuming the moves Homer will make this offseason will reflect the organization's support of Lava's philosophy.
- ravishingone


I won't kill them for it...well, I'll try not to kill them for it.

I understand it, but it's been building for a few years for me.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 11 @ 11:18 PM ET
BoHo
- Jsaquella


Perhaps he should be considered at least before Hunter Shinkaruk
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 11 @ 11:19 PM ET
Perhaps he should be considered at least before Hunter Shinkaruk
- ob18


I'd prefer him over Shinkaruk, although I wouldn't be upset with the latter.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 11 @ 11:20 PM ET
I'd prefer him over Shinkaruk, although I wouldn't be upset with the latter.
- Jsaquella


Yeah he can no doubt improve and show why some love his game.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 11 @ 11:21 PM ET
Yeah he can no doubt improve and show why some love his game.
- ob18


I just want a BoHo jersey.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 11 @ 11:23 PM ET
I just want a BoHo jersey.
- Jsaquella



http://www.londonknights....rseys/customizer_2012.asp
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 11 @ 11:23 PM ET
I won't kill them for it...well, I'll try not to kill them for it.

I understand it, but it's been building for a few years for me.

- Jsaquella



Getting owned by the Debs and Rangers will do that to a Flyers fan. They stumble out of the block in the first 20 games, I think he will be gone. We'll see if he is stubborn enough to revert back to his old philosophies with a healthier, more experience blue line.

He better figure out how to get this team to score 5 on 5 again. Last year, they were horrible.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 11 @ 11:31 PM ET
I'm not absolving other areas of the organization. I put blame on the players, GM and owner, too.

But I saw too many coaches get more out of less than Laviolette has, and it hasn't just been this season. This season is just when the bottom fell out of the barrel.

The good thing is, it sure seems that the players are still buying what he's selling, because when he finally changed, they did their best to make it work.

- Jsaquella

no question, lavi had as tough a yr as homer did. changes made were overdue.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 11 @ 11:33 PM ET
He'd be an ideal Kimmo replacement, IMO
- Jsaquella

agreed and in his prime. we have luke and (hopefully) nic to handle the heavy lifting of physical play.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 11 @ 11:43 PM ET
Actually, the one guy I have concerns about is Hunter Shinkaruk, but mainly because he's got a rep as being a guy who can be negated by physical play, despite his talent level.
- Jsaquella


I didn't really come across much evidence of that in the stuff I reviewed for the profile...he's fairly strong on his skates for his size and uses his skating, quickness, and body positioning to avoid being physically "negated" ...judging by his performance in the WHL, where goal scoring can be somewhat harder to come by than other leagues, there didn't seem to be that much negating of Shinkaruk going on.

I think he's one guy who often ranks out of the top or even 10, but,loosely speaking, as much pure talent in terms of hands, quickness, agility and hockey IQ, as the top two forwards MacKinnon and Drouin. He's not a small player at 5'11" but like many a young player, could stand to bulk up...when you look at the most recent footage, he doesn't seem particularly small out there, and it certainly looks like he can handle himself against bigger guys who try to get physical with him:

(yes, it's time for youtube videos!)

Our hero, #9, get's nailed along boards but makes the play, then to the slot for the goal.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...&feature=youtu.be&t=1m53s

Battles a big d man for positioning in front, scores goal:
http://youtu.be/iKETR6XjTwI?t=2m

Blows past one d man, get's hooked by the second big d man, still scores, shorthanded.

http://youtu.be/iKETR6XjTwI?t=2m12s


Getting through a sizeable D man who tries to get him physically at the blueline:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...wM&feature=youtu.be&t=45s
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 11 @ 11:47 PM ET
BoHo
- Jsaquella


He's certainly peaking into his draft...that can be a good or bad thing. Is he proving he's special or is he just having a run of good luck that makes him overrated going into the draft? I haven't researched or seen enough of him to chime in, really at this point...
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

May 12 @ 12:04 AM ET
He's certainly peaking into his draft...that can be a good or bad thing. Is he proving he's special or is he just having a run of good luck that makes him overrated going into the draft? I haven't researched or seen enough of him to chime in, really at this point...
- exlund


Clutch ability
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 12 @ 12:13 AM ET
Have to be all over that.
- stveshdy


Ugh. Vancouver wants to get big and young. I would guess they'd target Simmonds. Bobby ryan would be perfect trade bait for Anaheim.

I could see our first rounder figuring into this
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 12 @ 12:33 AM ET
Ugh. Vancouver wants to get big and young. I would guess they'd target Simmonds. Bobby ryan would be perfect trade bait for Anaheim.

I could see our first rounder figuring into this

- Just5

Simmonds is the obvious bait, but if a deal could be struck with Hartnell and Coburn as starting points then maybe we have something very good. Obviously we'd have to add quite a bit on top of that, but preserving our youth core while adding a #1 dman would be a huge victory for the team this offseason.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

May 12 @ 12:55 AM ET
11th for Edler? Wouldn't the Canucks then have the 11th and 16th? Just spitballing.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 12 @ 1:21 AM ET
11th for Edler? Wouldn't the Canucks then have the 11th and 16th? Just spitballing.
- GirouxForTheShow

I'd rather pick Pulock or Zadorov with the 11th, I imagine both of them will be better than Edler in their primes. If we can get Edler, great, just keep the high pick out of it.
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