carkner was playing 8 minutes a game getting manhandled by matt cooke...stop i can live with him playing but he is not Adam Foote
- NYI78

youre obsessing over one check that carkner not crushed on...ok...so what??

why is capuano fixing something that doesnt need to be fixed??? hickey was being thrown around like an asian prostitute!!! (and thats being nice, bc i actually like hickey)

If Carkner is in for Hickey last night, I guarantee that Crosby goal doesn't happen.
I've been a huge supporter of Hickey this year but he does not need to be paired with Vis in a playoff game
- keaner17

really crosby wouldn't turn the corner around carkner and blow right past him???? carkner is an orange parking cone with fists

youre obsessing over one check that carkner not crushed on...ok...so what??

why is capuano fixing something that doesnt need to be fixed??? hickey was being thrown around like an asian prostitute!!! (and thats being nice, bc i actually like hickey)
- LetsGoIsles

i'm not obsessing i'm being specific...look i don't hate carkner if he plays fine..but he is not anything special and he doesn't solve any problems

youre obsessing over one check that carkner not crushed on...ok...so what??

why is capuano fixing something that doesn't need to be fixed??? hickey was being thrown around like an asian prostitute!!! (and that's being nice, bc i actually like asian prostitutes)
- LetsGoIsles

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i'm not obsessing i'm being specific...look i don't hate carkner if he plays fine..but he is not anything special and he doesn't solve any problems
- NYI78

well...that may be true or may not be true...

all WE do know is that when carkner/ullstrom have been in the team played at a MUCH higher level than in games 1 & 5 when they were out...

is it totally carkner and ullstrom, i dont know (although i highly doubt it) but WHY was the move made??? it was working!!! the lines & pairings were working!!

really crosby wouldn't turn the corner around carkner and blow right past him???? carkner is an orange parking cone with fists
- NYI78

Yes Really, because Carkner would know right up front to maintain his position and play the body early. Hickey got passed because of how weak he is physically. He turned into Crosby and bounced off him like a flea. While I don't think Carkner is anything better than a 5 or 6 dman, he's better suited to handle Crosby than Hickey.

I feel like you have to give Nabby his chance saturday. He helped us get here and he can helps us win Game 6.

As for Nielsen, he is a big loss. Only few of us understand that here.
But like someone mentioned earlier, someone can step in.

Throw Strome or Nelson in there and let them shine. Or Move Bailey to 2nd Line Center and then play Ullstrom.

If you have Carkner back in line up and Cappy doesnt complete Screw it up by Putting in Reasoner instead of what i mentioned above, Isles will win Saturday and force a Game 7.

Yes Really, because Carkner would know right up front to maintain his position and play the body early. Hickey got passed because of how weak he is physically. He turned into Crosby and bounced off him like a flea. While I don't think Carkner is anything better than a 5 or 6 dman, he's better suited to handle Crosby than Hickey.
- keaner17

while hickey got beat by crosby, you cant blame him for the goal. Nabby who was shell shocked from his soft goal was sitting back in his crease. had he stepped up to top of the circle, Crosby would have had no room to shoot.

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not quite, the last time i was there a saigon whore bit off my nose!!!

That's probably hilarious - if you are one of those cool enough to watch pro wrestling.
- Daman

The guy tossing out Cyndi Lauper lines is criticizing other people's pop culture tastes?

well...that may be true or may not be true...

all WE do know is that when carkner/ullstrom have been in the team played at a MUCH higher level than in games 1 & 5 when they were out...

is it totally carkner and ullstrom, i dont know (although i highly doubt it) but WHY was the move made??? it was working!!! the lines & pairings were working!!
- LetsGoIsles

To me it's not about how good or bad individually Carkner is but rather, how do his best strength's help the present makeup of our defense. It's scary to think, but our most physical dman on last nights roster after Hamonic is Brian Strait....Our biggest dman is Haomic at 6'2" 215lbs. The Pens changed the flow of the game because we were unable to rub out their forwards and they controlled the boards. You can't pair two small dmen like Vis and Hickey up against someone like Malkin and Crosby and expect it's going to end well. I wish we had a better physical option than Carkner but we don't.

thats fine, but if its a bidding war.. we bow out gracefully


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That's fine too. Then you still need a plan, unless you wanna stick with what you've got.

really crosby wouldn't turn the corner around carkner and blow right past him???? carkner is an orange parking cone with fists
- NYI78

ya but in your scenario, you are assuming that crosby, who is constantly thinking about his jaw, throat, concussion history, would have gone right up the middle and taken on carkner...hickey is nowhere NEAR as intimidating as carkner is, so to question whether carkner is quick enough to stay with crosby may be a question that would have never been a question had carkner been on the ice...

while hickey got beat by crosby, you cant blame him for the goal. Nabby who was shell shocked from his soft goal was sitting back in his crease. had he stepped up to top of the circle, Crosby would have had no room to shoot.
- Spartiarti

You're damn right I can blame him for that goal. Just like on the other end of the ice, dmen can't get caught getting hypnotized by the puck. Vis was right next to Hickey, so Crosby had only one place to go which was to the outside of Hickey. He has to know this and step right into Crosby, at the very least it slows him up enough that Vis can then steal the puck. That's basic defensemen responsibilities...play the body. Instead he let Crosby make his move and waited to go after the body until after Crosby was already outside him. That was a hockey 101 ERROR.
Sure it would have been nice to see Nabby make the save, but in most cases a player who winds up on a breakaway should score every time. That's why they call it a one on 0. It was a 1 on 2 but Hickey misplayed it.

while hickey got beat by crosby, you cant blame him for the goal. Nabby who was shell shocked from his soft goal was sitting back in his crease. had he stepped up to top of the circle, Crosby would have had no room to shoot.
- Spartiarti

no one is blaming him for the goal, we're blaming him far barely sneezing on the guy which LEAD to the goal...

EDIT: almost no one

Soon. But not until you shut the F up. Why don't you go back to CPF and the Pitt thread, g-boy?
- Daman

Have you noticed yet that NO ONE in EITHER thread wants you around? There's a name for that.

L-O-S-E-R.

not quite, the last time i was there a saigon whore bit off my nose!!!
- LetsGoIsles

Well that's a fetish i never heard of

did you have to pay extra for that?

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no one is blaming him for the goal, we're blaming him far barely sneezing on the guy which LEAD to the goal...

EDIT: almost no one
- LetsGoIsles

Yep..as someone who played defenseman for over 30 years and coached, seeing that killed me . It was a rookie mistake that dmen are taught from the time they can first play contact.

That's fine too. Then you still need a plan, unless you wanna stick with what you've got.
- jmatchett383

Plan is to see who is available, try to resign Nabby, go with Kevin & Anders

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Ryan Miller was sub par this year. This would ge a horrible trade. We are giving up on Nino? Hasn't this year shown any of us that some prospects take time (Kyloe Okposo)... This summer there is a ton of quality UFA goaltenders. The worst of that bunch is Nabby. We are one of the few teams with tons of cap room to add if it makes sense. There is NO need to trade away picks, prospects or players to get a HUGE upgrade in net.
- niteislander

Again, who are these "quality" UFAs you speak of?

Mike Smith? Plays great on defensively-minded teams, not so much on others.

Howard got locked up.

Niklas Backstrom has pretty bad playoff numbers, and will be coming off an injury.

Anyone else? You guys already have good ol' TimTom. Ray Emery?

Plan is to see who is available, try to resign Nabby, go with Kevin & Anders

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Do you think any of those 3 will contribute to improving the team's fortunes for next year and beyond?

Well that's a fetish i never heard of

did you have to pay extra for that?

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one of the most underrated movies of all time as far as im concerned.

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one of the most underrated movies of all time as far as im concerned.
- LetsGoIsles

Eh, it's okay. Plenty of good one-liners though.

Note to self: Making love to blow-up doll is not as good as advertised
Also, the scene with all of the dead hookers is solid.

Do you think any of those 3 will contribute to improving the team's fortunes for next year and beyond?
- jmatchett383

Anders Neilsson is the future of this team as far as the starting goaltender position goes, as long as he got his medical condition under control.. the answer to your question is yes.

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one of the most underrated movies of all time as far as im concerned.
- LetsGoIsles

Good Flick.. if Norm wasnt so good at burning bridges he would have stared in a few more movies.

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