And best of luck to your Atlanta Thrashers
- JAKEw1234

GO JETS GO!!!!!

Homer stiffed you with a bar tab at Rexy's, didn't he?
- Flyskippy

now you know Homer is very generous with Mr Snider's money

NJ series last year, regular season this year, WC's now... His teammates don't show and he still gets shredded. Love it.
- Flyskippy

I'd rather play StarWars Angry birds than watch that slop vs France

The only thing you ever here about the Jersey series is when he played the puck and had it carom off Clarkson's stick for a goal

now you know Homer is very generous with Mr Snider's money
- vejim

Now? Yes.

Back when you lived in the area? Not sure.

I'd rather play StarWars Angry birds than watch that slop vs France

The only thing you ever here about the Jersey series is when he played the puck and had it carom off Clarkson's stick for a goal
- KINGKENZO

Selective memory, defined

I don't understand why people get so worked up over media coverage. Anyone who thinks it overtly effects the performance on the ice or the decisions of management are kidding themselves. It's sports writers. They're covering entertainment. It's like reading an op-ed piece on whether Robert Downey Jr can be replaced as Ironman in Avengers 2. I read it and move on.

I don't think Bryzgalof cares all that much about it. It is what it is. People think it's the media in Philadelphia but it's not. It happens in every town where there's a large fan base of a team. The coverage has just become an issue because Bryzgalof has decided to deal with them directly on the record and in media scrums. Now the media/Bryzgalof tiff is international news. Today is a perfect example. There's an entire interview that's just about it.

I read it. It was entertaining and I moved on.

Kind of.

Assessments of play puts everyone on equal footing -- from the media to the press to the folks in the building to the fans at home, though the fans at home don't see everything and the folks in the building won't get injury updates, etc. as fast as the TV audience. Knowing the game is not a direct result of time spent watching or else Tim Panaccio would be a reliable "insider."

Assuming what a player is thinking, what his motives are, what (if anything) is distracting him, etc. is thin ice.
- Flyskippy

Tim is def on thin ice as an insider as his panic call for iginla illustrates

At least the Wild still have 12 more years of Parise making over $7.5 million and doing not much of anything in the playoffs.

Some early buyers remorse over in the Wild blog?

Maybe they'll buy him out?

Some early buyers remorse over in the Wild blog?

Maybe they'll buy him out?


- mayorofangrytown

To be fair, that write up is by the Devils blogger.

To be fair, that write up is by the Devils blogger.
- BulliesPhan87

Right you are. I read right past that.

Now that I figured out what the phrase "begging the question" really means (assuming one's first point to be true), I realize how infested with it this place is.
- Flyskippy

seriously, use it in a sentence.

seriously, use it in a sentence.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Assuming that Bryzgalov is an air-headed, easily-distracted, and bad teammate, assuming Mike Richards and Jeff Carter were more concerned with romantic exploits and beer drinking than playing with full effort in Philadelphia, and assuming that Bobrovsky would have had a Vezina-quality season whilst still in Philadelphia and then basing one's arguments on such things are all examples of begging the question.

seriously, use it in a sentence.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

What is "Begging the Question?"
"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.

What is it Not?
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

http://begthequestion.info/

What is "Begging the Question?"
"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.

What is it Not?
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

http://begthequestion.info/
- BringBack25

Thanks. I think skip misunderstood it.

Thanks. I think skip misunderstood it.
- mayorofangrytown

Wouldn't be the first time...

Thanks. I think skip misunderstood it.
- mayorofangrytown

Maybe, but I certainly think he's right when he says that it happens all the time in these forums. "The initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place" certainly sounds like lots of the posts made in here.

Part of that is just the nature of the beast - this is an open forum for people to express their own thoughts, feelings, etc. There is no requirement that they prove their ideas or opinions to be correct or accurate before they post them.

The other part is a clear lack of the capacity for rational thought on the part of many of our posters.



(I certainly fall into that latter category)

Maybe, but I certainly think he's right when he says that it happens all the time in these forums. "The initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place" certainly sounds like lots of the posts made in here.

Part of that is just the nature of the beast - this is an open forum for people to express their own thoughts, feelings, etc. There is no requirement that they prove their ideas or opinions to be correct or accurate before they post them.

The other part is a clear lack of the capacity for rational thought on the part of many of our posters.



(I certainly fall into that latter category)
- BringBack25

Never heard of it.

With the cluster(frank) in Buffalo would it be possible to pry away Myers and Miller?

Couts/Schenn, prospect, Coburn and #11 pick?

What is "Begging the Question?"
"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.

What is it Not?
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

http://begthequestion.info/
- BringBack25

You said that better than I did.

/oldskippyresponse

What is "Begging the Question?"
"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.

A simple example would be "I think he is unattractive because he is ugly." The adjective "ugly" does not explain why the subject is "unattractive" -- they virtually amount to the same subjective meaning, and the proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.

What is it Not?
To beg the question does not mean "to raise the question." (e.g. "It begs the question, why is he so dumb?") This is a common error of usage made by those who mistake the word "question" in the phrase to refer to a literal question. Sadly, the error has grown more and more common with time, such that even journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities have fallen prey to "BTQ Abuse."

http://begthequestion.info/
- BringBack25

i have read these things over and over and have still not gotten anyone to use it in a sentence. other than

"that is begging the question"

why is it an expression, but no one can use it in a sentence

With the cluster(frank) in Buffalo would it be possible to pry away Myers and Miller?

Couts/Schenn, prospect, Coburn and #11 pick?
- flyguy12

Buying out Bryz in this scenario?

With the cluster(frank) in Buffalo would it be possible to pry away Myers and Miller?

Couts/Schenn, prospect, Coburn and #11 pick?
- flyguy12

Not that your hypothetical trade offer is unfair, but the trade won't happen at all for the following reasons:

First, the Flyers from what it appears so far, will have two goalies in their starting line-up who are starters in Bryz and Mason. Therefore no Miller unless a goalie is sent back the other way or Bryz is bought-out.

Second, there is not enough cap space to even take on both those players unless there is some serious manoeuvring to get under the cap with those said players on the team.

Third, at this point in Buffalo's re-assessment/re-build, I don't think they're willing to part with Myers yet. I think Miller could be had, but not Myers (personal opinion).

i have read these things over and over and have still not gotten anyone to use it in a sentence. other than "that is begging the question"

why is it an expression but no one can use it in a sentence
- Don'tForgetTocchet

I think he is unattractive because he is ugly begs the question.

I think he is unattractive because he is ugly begs the question.
- Flyskippy

so really it's not a phrase that anyone would ever use

how did it become a commonly used expression that people use to mean something else?

this is the part that fascinates me

so really it's not a phrase that anyone would ever use

how did it become a commonly used expression that people use to mean something else?

this is the part that fascinates me
- Don'tForgetTocchet

That would require a linguistics study I am not qualified for nor am I interested to know. In other words... 'Merica