Why are you here? Do you not work? No girlfriend? What are you,13? Mom took the xbox from you??? Seriously, why do you continually come onto these boards and shame the team if you're not a fan??

Let me just clue you in...because I know you don't know.
Huberdeau will win rookie of the year, boosting his confidence next season.
Howden,Bjugstad,Shore,Petrovic, Robak, and Markstrom gained professional experience and played pretty darn well considering the circumstances of this season, so you're "too much pressure on our prospects" is invalid.
Weiss will be resigned! He wants to be a Panther, Tallon wants him to be a Panther so I don't see why Weiss and the organization can't hammer out a good fair deal for both sides.
Versteeg,Bergenheim,Gudbranson and the rest of the team will be 100% come training camp (baring no weird,freakish accidents in the offseason). That adds even more offense to our team and gives us more options for a 4 line roster.
Trochek has a chance at making the big club. Having 50 goals and 59 assists in 63 reg season games, plus 10 goals and 14 assists in 15 playoff games doesn't just accidently happen. He's either NHL bound, or AHL bound next season but either way,he'll be a Panther sooner than later.
Getting rid of Clemmensen and Upshall should be key this offseason, possibly Kuba and I'd personally like Jovo to retire. I wouldn't mind Jovo coming back if he plays like he did last season in the post season. I'd rather Jovo than Kuba. Depending on the situation with Luongo, and his contract getting bought out, I can see/would like to see Tallon bringing him on board to help Markstrom with the workload for a 2 to 3 year,decent deal while Markstrom gains more confidence and turns into an elite goaltender. ( I like Luongo better than Theo and Clemmer) I would be okay with NOT going after Lu, but like I said before I would personally prefer Lu than Clemmer or Theo.
Were going to be adding more draft picks to our already #1 prospect pool in the entire league.
We'll have a chance to trade for some talent given that the cap is going down and some teams will be crunched for space, and I ,for one, trust in Tallon.
Last but not least, we're going to draft Mackinnon! He's going to add a lot more offense to our team and once again, help us build a winning franchise. He'll be our top line center, which we've been desprite for.

So, in conclussion...Run your f**kin' mouth all you want, but we're going to win more than 20 games next season. We're going to compete with every team and we're definatelty going to be in the post season from next season moving forward. We've got enough talent to compete with any team in the league,and the more they play together, gain experience and gel as a team, the better they will become.
- pantherfan12

fans like you said that about the last youth movement with Booth, Frolik, Weiss, Horton, Bouwmeester etc....... and now the Panthers are following that same trend. Putting kids in spots they shouldn't be in. We'll have a better idea next year and I guess you can use injuries as the excuse for this season but if a rookie is centering our top line then you really should start questioning Tallon and what he's doing.

fans like you said that about the last youth movement with Booth, Frolik, Weiss, Horton, Bouwmeester etc....... and now the Panthers are following that same trend. Putting kids in spots they shouldn't be in. We'll have a better idea next year and I guess you can use injuries as the excuse for this season but if a rookie is centering our top line then you really should start questioning Tallon and what he's doing.
- BallardHitsHard22

The only thing I can say Tallon has been dead wrong on was letting Grabner walk.

Funny how all of a sudden, Weiss is this big franchise maker. Yes, he's a solid contributor, and glue to this team. While I like him, watching these playoffs just screams out just where our strengths and weaknesses are....and...it's been debated here for quite some time.

The only thing I can say Tallon has been dead wrong on was letting Grabner walk.

Funny how all of a sudden, Weiss is this big franchise maker. Yes, he's a solid contributor, and glue to this team. While I like him, watching these playoffs just screams out just where our strengths and weaknesses are....and...it's been debated here for quite some time.
- PanthersGoal

I don't think Weiss is a franchise maker but with him on a line with Flash and Steeger, I have to admit they were pretty fuccking good. Top in the NHL I believe. That line when healthy is our strong point. Try and trade for another top center and draft Drouin, and there's your 2nd line.

My Florida Panthers team next year would look like this:

Versteeg - Weiss - Fleischmann
Huberdeau- CENTER VIA TRADE - Drouin
Bergenheim - - Kopecky
Shore - - Upshall

Campbell - Petrovic
Kulikov - Weaver
Gudbranson - Jovo

Markstrom
Backup (FA or via trade)

Strachan/Robak/Caruso/Matheson (if he doesn't go back to BC for another year or if he's even ready)

Brennan is a RFA. I'd either sign him to a two way or not bring him back at all. Kuba I wouuld try and trade, 4 million hit is just too much for a guy that does nothing on the ice to help this team.

Matthias (RFA) and or Goc along with a prospect like Grimaldi, McFarland, Shaw, Rau, Knight along with draft picks. This is why the bottom two lines don't have a center.

Skille (RFA) would be gone (there's no reason to resign him, none whatsoever), Bjugstad and Howden would start the season in San Antonio. Rallo and Sellek would also be let go or signed to a mid level deal.

Theodore is a UFA, I wouldn't bring him back.
Clemmenson has another year left, try and trade him or just deal with him for another year. I'd prefer to trade him and bring in someone else.
Markstrom would need to be resigned as well (RFA). Give him a 3 year deal, not too much, a deal that says, "you really need to step it up to earn a long term deal for starter money."

that's it.......

I don't think Weiss is a franchise maker but with him on a line with Flash and Steeger, I have to admit they were pretty fuccking good. Top in the NHL I believe. That line when healthy is our strong point. Try and trade for another top center and draft Drouin, and there's your 2nd line.

My Florida Panthers team next year would look like this:

Versteeg - Weiss - Fleischmann
Huberdeau- CENTER VIA TRADE - Drouin
Bergenheim - - Kopecky
Shore - - Upshall

Campbell - Petrovic
Kulikov - Weaver
Gudbranson - Jovo

Markstrom
Backup (FA or via trade)

Strachan/Robak/Caruso/Matheson (if he doesn't go back to BC for another year or if he's even ready)

Brennan is a RFA. I'd either sign him to a two way or not bring him back at all. Kuba I wouuld try and trade, 4 million hit is just too much for a guy that does nothing on the ice to help this team.

Matthias (RFA) and or Goc along with a prospect like Grimaldi, McFarland, Shaw, Rau, Knight along with draft picks. This is why the bottom two lines don't have a center.

Skille (RFA) would be gone (there's no reason to resign him, none whatsoever), Bjugstad and Howden would start the season in San Antonio. Rallo and Sellek would also be let go or signed to a mid level deal.

Theodore is a UFA, I wouldn't bring him back.
Clemmenson has another year left, try and trade him or just deal with him for another year. I'd prefer to trade him and bring in someone else.
Markstrom would need to be resigned as well (RFA). Give him a 3 year deal, not too much, a deal that says, "you really need to step it up to earn a long term deal for starter money."

that's it.......
- BallardHitsHard22

I'm sorry, but weaver needs to go! The guy is useless on the ice, he gets bullied by other players, his offence is horrible and his defense is just as bad.. He lets people stand right in front of the goalie and is horrible on the boards, anytime some says they like weaver and think we should keep him it leaves me scratching my head..

More like

Campbell - Gudbranson

Kulikov - Petrovic

Jovo - UFA/ Robak

I don't think Weiss is a franchise maker but with him on a line with Flash and Steeger, I have to admit they were pretty fuccking good. Top in the NHL I believe. That line when healthy is our strong point. Try and trade for another top center and draft Drouin, and there's your 2nd line.

My Florida Panthers team next year would look like this:

Versteeg - Weiss - Fleischmann
Huberdeau- CENTER VIA TRADE - Drouin
Bergenheim - - Kopecky
Shore - - Upshall

Campbell - Petrovic
Kulikov - Weaver
Gudbranson - Jovo

Markstrom
Backup (FA or via trade)

Strachan/Robak/Caruso/Matheson (if he doesn't go back to BC for another year or if he's even ready)

Brennan is a RFA. I'd either sign him to a two way or not bring him back at all. Kuba I wouuld try and trade, 4 million hit is just too much for a guy that does nothing on the ice to help this team.

Matthias (RFA) and or Goc along with a prospect like Grimaldi, McFarland, Shaw, Rau, Knight along with draft picks. This is why the bottom two lines don't have a center.

Skille (RFA) would be gone (there's no reason to resign him, none whatsoever), Bjugstad and Howden would start the season in San Antonio. Rallo and Sellek would also be let go or signed to a mid level deal.

Theodore is a UFA, I wouldn't bring him back.
Clemmenson has another year left, try and trade him or just deal with him for another year. I'd prefer to trade him and bring in someone else.
Markstrom would need to be resigned as well (RFA). Give him a 3 year deal, not too much, a deal that says, "you really need to step it up to earn a long term deal for starter money."

that's it.......
- BallardHitsHard22

Jovo and Upshall have no place on the team. Eddie served the purpose they signed him for, and the goal was accomplished, and the fans appreciated it. He needs to join the organization in another capacity. Upshall has become too fragile.

Jovo and Upshall have no place on the team. Eddie served the purpose they signed him for, and the goal was accomplished, and the fans appreciated it. He needs to join the organization in another capacity. Upshall has become too fragile.
- PanthersGoal

Well no one is gong to trade for either player so you better hope jovo retires.

Well no one is gong to trade for either player so you better hope jovo retires.
- BallardHitsHard22

I think upshall could be moved if we retain some of his cap hit same as kuba.

I think upshall could be moved if we retain some of his cap hit same as kuba.
- Crazycaboose

I hope Tallon could get something done. I'd take that man.

I disagree with the Weaver comment. I think he's solid, give him a full healthy season with a FULL team for most of the year and he plays very sound and is great positionally. Just two years ago he was awesome, it's funny how things went downhill on D with Garrison off the roster. Took a huge step back this year but with Petrovic and Matheson potentially coming in and making an impact, I think we will take a few steps forward on D.

Offense is a whole different story. A lot of changes need to be made.

I hope Tallon could get something done. I'd take that man.

I disagree with the Weaver comment. I think he's solid, give him a full healthy season with a FULL team for most of the year and he plays very sound and is great positionally. Just two years ago he was awesome, it's funny how things went downhill on D with Garrison off the roster. Took a huge step back this year but with Petrovic and Matheson potentially coming in and making an impact, I think we will take a few steps forward on D.

Offense is a whole different story. A lot of changes need to be made.
- BallardHitsHard22

Brennan is being over-looked BIG time. This kid was drafted as the heir apparent to Brian Campbell in Buffalo. He worked on and improved his defensive capabilities by a large margin. He was on pace for a 30 point season had this been a full season.

We gave Strachan a chance, Brennan could be a very big part of this team. Not keeping him in favor of Strachan and/or Weaver is just careless. Matheson is not going to be playing in the NHL next season... you talk about rushing prospects?! He needs at least another year to get bigger.

I wouldn't worry about Gudbranson, Campbell, or Kulikov, though the ladder I am on the fence with sometimes.

Offense I am not even going to go near. There are too many "ifs" happening. Weiss, Matthias, Goc, Upshall...

Oh, I forgot about Kuba.

I think brennan should be in the line up I thought he was pretty solid on a bad team and I think he could be a force on the PP with Campbell. He needs to be on the team IMO.

Brennan is being over-looked BIG time. This kid was drafted as the heir apparent to Brian Campbell in Buffalo. He worked on and improved his defensive capabilities by a large margin. He was on pace for a 30 point season had this been a full season.

We gave Strachan a chance, Brennan could be a very big part of this team. Not keeping him in favor of Strachan and/or Weaver is just careless. Matheson is not going to be playing in the NHL next season... you talk about rushing prospects?! He needs at least another year to get bigger.

I wouldn't worry about Gudbranson, Campbell, or Kulikov, though the ladder I am on the fence with sometimes.

Offense I am not even going to go near. There are too many "ifs" happening. Weiss, Matthias, Goc, Upshall...

Oh, I forgot about Kuba.
- Panthers88

I totally forgot about Brennan, I definitely think he should be on the roster next year! I love his game! His presence on the power play was HUGE, he moves the puck very well and is defensively sound. Good call.

The only problem with keeping Brennan is that there might not be enough room for him on the NHL roster. He's a liability on D, I'm sorry but the guy is never in position, he was a problem this year. Yes, he moves the puck very well on the PP but that's all he really offers. He won't be here next year. Petrovic/Robak/Caruso would be above him on the depth.

The only problem with keeping Brennan is that there might not be enough room for him on the NHL roster. He's a liability on D, I'm sorry but the guy is never in position, he was a problem this year. Yes, he moves the puck very well on the PP but that's all he really offers. He won't be here next year. Petrovic/Robak/Caruso would be above him on the depth.
- BallardHitsHard22

I disagree IMO I don't think he was that big of a liability he made mistakes but then who didn't this year. And you have to remember he is only 24 and only has 40 NHL games played. I think he could and will be a big part of this team if he is given the chance. he put up big numbers in the AHL and still put up ok numbers for us in 19 games. And he has been coached by Dineen and he plays well in his system.

I disagree IMO I don't think he was that big of a liability he made mistakes but then who didn't this year. And you have to remember he is only 24 and only has 40 NHL games played. I think he could and will be a big part of this team if he is given the chance. he put up big numbers in the AHL and still put up ok numbers for us in 19 games. And he has been coached by Dineen and he plays well in his system.
- Crazycaboose

Another guy that would have been great for us if given a chance was Grabner. It's a shame he never got his shot here. Especially for a team that can't score, what was so bad with him that he couldn't get a pre season shot? Tallon is clueless sometimes. He really is.

Another guy that would have been great for us if given a chance was Grabner. It's a shame he never got his shot here. Especially for a team that can't score, what was so bad with him that he couldn't get a pre season shot? Tallon is clueless sometimes. He really is.
- BallardHitsHard22

Hockey can be hit or miss. No one wanted to take a chance on Mueller or flash but he got them! Sometimes things work and sometimes they don't.

Hockey can be hit or miss. No one wanted to take a chance on Mueller or flash but he got them! Sometimes things work and sometimes they don't.
- Crazycaboose

Hit or miss, yes. But he never gave Grabner a chance. The trade landed him here for only a short time. I think Tallon blowing him out so quickly was to light a fire under the others. A move that clearly backfired. And, I fully support Tallon. That move didn't work.

Hit or miss, yes. But he never gave Grabner a chance. The trade landed him here for only a short time. I think Tallon blowing him out so quickly was to light a fire under the others. A move that clearly backfired. And, I fully support Tallon. That move didn't work.
- PanthersGoal

I dont disagree he should have gotten a better shot. But just got to move pass it he has done a lot of good for this team as you know. A couple of mistakes are going to happen and even losing him that trade still worked out better for us then the nucks.

I dont disagree he should have gotten a better shot. But just got to move pass it he has done a lot of good for this team as you know. A couple of mistakes are going to happen and even losing him that trade still worked out better for us then the nucks.
- Crazycaboose

Absoultely true, but we cannot make mistakes that others simply absorb. It's impossible to be perfect, but we need to be as close as possible. That includes most importantly Dale Tallon.

Absoultely true, but we cannot make mistakes that others simply absorb. It's impossible to be perfect, but we need to be as close as possible. That includes most importantly Dale Tallon.
- PanthersGoal

I agree there is little room for error for us. He should have been given a chance and I wish he did. But I will say tallon has done a lot with basically nothing he has my support for now. Just got to make a few moves and we will be in a good position.

You have no clue if Weiss is going to stay or not. He WILL test the market, he's not stupid. Weiss is long gone.

as far as health..... you have no idea... Coming into this season we had guys hurt, who says that won't happen again next year?? It's very possible High character guys like Gudbranson will go wake boarding again and miss the start of the season.

You're correct in that Tallon will draft MacKinnnon. Tampa will get the best offensive player in the draft to add to Stamkos and St Louis. Drouin

and to say we will def be in the post season is another idiotic thing to say. We will be in the hardest division in hockey with Boston, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto and will have the worst travel in the NHL. Panthers will finish 12th-15th next year. That's almost a certain.

Huberdeau isn't a lock for ROY either.

Get back to me when Weiss is gone and Huby gets screwed on the award. I bet you won't because all of you hate to admit I'm right, which is usually more than half the time.
- BallardHitsHard22

Okay. First, let me admit that you may be right! Weiss may not return. Hubby may not win the ROY. We may have health issues next season. I have no crystal ball in my hand where I can see the future.
With that being said, What if I am right? Will you come back to me and admit YOU were wrong? Let's make a deal: If you are right, I'll admit it (which I don't have issues with anyways). If I am right then you admit you were wrong, and stop bashing the team from now on.. deal?

I don't think the players will be getting hurt this offseason considering we WILL have a season next season,and no lockout. While accidents happen (Gudbranson) I think it's safe to say that most of the players will be careful, but train for next season.
Huberdeau may not win, but there is no doubt that he was amazing this season, and given the fact that it was his rookie season and he has a lot to learn, he'll only get better. Just the mere fact that he leads all other candidates when it comes to scoring by a rookie,and the only other one to tie him in that category (Yakupov) was not nominated, makes me feel like he'll win.
With regards to Weiss, I said what I said based off of comments from Tallon and Weiss. No one knows the future,and Weiss may infact chase the money,but from all the interviews I've seen Weiss in regarding this subject,he seems very sure that he wants to remain and retire a Panther. Is Weiss a superstar top line,elite center.... No. Is he a great player with a lot to offer, Yes. I know when I've watched games with and without him, you can see the team fall apart without him. Maybe it'll be different now that we have talent on the team, but he is still a useful player which is why 29 other teams will be contacting him.
You say Drouin is the best offensive player in the draft, others say Mackinnon. People say Mackinnon has all that Drouin has, with more size,speed,and a better two-way game. This team is desprite for a true elite, franchise center and most hope Mackinnon is that answer. It's not always the best possible player in the draft, but the best player that fits into our needs. We NEED a franchise center, and Mackinnon fits that need. I am not knocking Drouin at all, because I am sure he'll be scary good next to Stamkos, but the Panthers need to start building our own scary combos, and most think a line consisting of Huberdeau and Mackinnon is close to scary good.
With regards to next season, and your expert opinion on the Panthers finishing near the bottom because of who we play, again I disagree. you say my opinion on making the playoffs is idiotic,then you go and say it's a certain that we'll finish 12-15? Really? What is so scary about those teams? What makes them so much better than us? With a healthy roster, and some tweaking to that roster, I think this team could compete with any team in that new division and in the league. When did Toronto become that scary?Same with Mon?? Detroit isn't as good as they used to be with all of their hall-of-famers retiring. Are we a lock for the Cup, NO.. but that doesn't mean we can't be competitive and have success. I honestly feel with a top 6 consisting of Flash-Weiss-Versteeg,Huberdeau-Mackinnon-Mueller that we A LOT of talent and a lot of depth. Factor in all the other players who can be mixed and matched, and I think we're going to be tough to play against. Imagine if Tallon can somehow pull a rabbit out of a hat and land a true #1 center, or another top winger? What if Luongo gets bought out and Tallon signs him to a 2 to 3 year deal,at a reasonable contract? We can trade Clemmensen, and have a Markstrom/Luongo tandem.

My whole argument was the fact that everytime I see you on the boards, you're throwing this team into a pile of dogsh*t for no reason. I mean if you think so poorly of this team, then why be here? Why be a hater? Why not go find your fav team or find a new team to make your fav team and talk about YOUR team? Talk about the possibilies with YOUR team, instead of coming onto OUR favorite teams' boards and slandering the team? No one can predict the future and how players will pan out, but to constantly come onto a website and trolling around the boards just to be a pest is kind of stupid.

I dont disagree he should have gotten a better shot. But just got to move pass it he has done a lot of good for this team as you know. A couple of mistakes are going to happen and even losing him that trade still worked out better for us then the nucks.
- Crazycaboose

If you look back at that time, and the season after, all parties involved, Grabner included freely admitted that he had an awful training camp. At the time they were looking at a kid who had shown potential but not enough to stick around Vancouver, who had a terrible camp and they put him on waivers to try and get him back to San Antonio (or was that long enough ago that it was Rochester? Doesn't matter). They did not expect another team to swoop in and claim him. Obviously hindsight is 20-20 and it appears careless now, but at that time his contract status mandated he had to clear waivers to get to the AHL and he had not played well enough to stay in the NHL. Now we know its a mistake.

If you look back at that time, and the season after, all parties involved, Grabner included freely admitted that he had an awful training camp. At the time they were looking at a kid who had shown potential but not enough to stick around Vancouver, who had a terrible camp and they put him on waivers to try and get him back to San Antonio (or was that long enough ago that it was Rochester? Doesn't matter). They did not expect another team to swoop in and claim him. Obviously hindsight is 20-20 and it appears careless now, but at that time his contract status mandated he had to clear waivers to get to the AHL and he had not played well enough to stay in the NHL. Now we know its a mistake.
- clarkey

Exactly hindsight is a female dog things could have gone either way. But because he turned into a good player now we will never hear the end of it. But that's why I was saying look at flash or mueller somethings work and some don't.

Okay. First, let me admit that you may be right! Weiss may not return. Hubby may not win the ROY. We may have health issues next season. I have no crystal ball in my hand where I can see the future.
With that being said, What if I am right? Will you come back to me and admit YOU were wrong? Let's make a deal: If you are right, I'll admit it (which I don't have issues with anyways). If I am right then you admit you were wrong, and stop bashing the team from now on.. deal?

I don't think the players will be getting hurt this offseason considering we WILL have a season next season,and no lockout. While accidents happen (Gudbranson) I think it's safe to say that most of the players will be careful, but train for next season.
Huberdeau may not win, but there is no doubt that he was amazing this season, and given the fact that it was his rookie season and he has a lot to learn, he'll only get better. Just the mere fact that he leads all other candidates when it comes to scoring by a rookie,and the only other one to tie him in that category (Yakupov) was not nominated, makes me feel like he'll win.
With regards to Weiss, I said what I said based off of comments from Tallon and Weiss. No one knows the future,and Weiss may infact chase the money,but from all the interviews I've seen Weiss in regarding this subject,he seems very sure that he wants to remain and retire a Panther. Is Weiss a superstar top line,elite center.... No. Is he a great player with a lot to offer, Yes. I know when I've watched games with and without him, you can see the team fall apart without him. Maybe it'll be different now that we have talent on the team, but he is still a useful player which is why 29 other teams will be contacting him.
You say Drouin is the best offensive player in the draft, others say Mackinnon. People say Mackinnon has all that Drouin has, with more size,speed,and a better two-way game. This team is desprite for a true elite, franchise center and most hope Mackinnon is that answer. It's not always the best possible player in the draft, but the best player that fits into our needs. We NEED a franchise center, and Mackinnon fits that need. I am not knocking Drouin at all, because I am sure he'll be scary good next to Stamkos, but the Panthers need to start building our own scary combos, and most think a line consisting of Huberdeau and Mackinnon is close to scary good.
With regards to next season, and your expert opinion on the Panthers finishing near the bottom because of who we play, again I disagree. you say my opinion on making the playoffs is idiotic,then you go and say it's a certain that we'll finish 12-15? Really? What is so scary about those teams? What makes them so much better than us? With a healthy roster, and some tweaking to that roster, I think this team could compete with any team in that new division and in the league. When did Toronto become that scary?Same with Mon?? Detroit isn't as good as they used to be with all of their hall-of-famers retiring. Are we a lock for the Cup, NO.. but that doesn't mean we can't be competitive and have success. I honestly feel with a top 6 consisting of Flash-Weiss-Versteeg,Huberdeau-Mackinnon-Mueller that we A LOT of talent and a lot of depth. Factor in all the other players who can be mixed and matched, and I think we're going to be tough to play against. Imagine if Tallon can somehow pull a rabbit out of a hat and land a true #1 center, or another top winger? What if Luongo gets bought out and Tallon signs him to a 2 to 3 year deal,at a reasonable contract? We can trade Clemmensen, and have a Markstrom/Luongo tandem.

My whole argument was the fact that everytime I see you on the boards, you're throwing this team into a pile of dogsh*t for no reason. I mean if you think so poorly of this team, then why be here? Why be a hater? Why not go find your fav team or find a new team to make your fav team and talk about YOUR team? Talk about the possibilies with YOUR team, instead of coming onto OUR favorite teams' boards and slandering the team? No one can predict the future and how players will pan out, but to constantly come onto a website and trolling around the boards just to be a pest is kind of stupid.
- pantherfan12

I'll admit I'm wrong when I am. And I know what's going to happen when we draft MacKinnon and Tampa drafts Drouin. Mac will struggle here and Drouin will be a 30 goal scorer in his rookie year and everyone on here will say that's ONLY because he's playing with stamkos/St Louis etc.... you guys wont give credit to me for saying stay away from MacKinnon because EVERYONE on here will say the Panthers are still in rebuilding mode and that there isn't enough guys YET to compliment the really good young players we have. AKA Tallon has failed the organization like the last two GM's before him.

Either way I'm wrong and every other Panther fan that believes in something that STILL HASN'T WORKED is right. That's just how it always goes. Me ranting about Anderson/Garrison/Bouwmeester all the wrong moves were made with each of these guys but certain fans of this team LOVE to defend these horrible mistakes. I'm sorry, I'm not like you guys, I've probably been a fan a lot longer than most of you and have endured the worst years, even worse than this year. The years after Bure was traded were the absolute down years and of course we are back there because of the incompetence of our scouting/medical/management/ and most importantly INSTABILITY inside this franchise. Having a CLOWN owner doesn't help either.

@ballard

You see here is your problem no one and I mean no just ever defended Anderson J-BO leaving management (frank)ed up no one is auguring that. I would have loved for Anderson to stay! But all most every thing you say was under old management. The only players tallon loss was Grabner and Garrison which I wish didn't happen. And I'm sorry but garrison wanted 5mill to stay a cat you don't give a guy that for one good year! And he has gotten a lot out of nothing look what he traded when we got campbell!

It's also nice how you completely forgot about last year. But the real point is we here like to talk hockey and enjoy our team. Ya they sucked Richard for a long time but if you can't support your team though the bad years you sure as hell shouldn't get to enjoy them in the good ones.

I'll admit I'm wrong when I am. And I know what's going to happen when we draft MacKinnon and Tampa drafts Drouin. Mac will struggle here and Drouin will be a 30 goal scorer in his rookie year and everyone on here will say that's ONLY because he's playing with stamkos/St Louis etc.... you guys wont give credit to me for saying stay away from MacKinnon because EVERYONE on here will say the Panthers are still in rebuilding mode and that there isn't enough guys YET to compliment the really good young players we have. AKA Tallon has failed the organization like the last two GM's before him.

Either way I'm wrong and every other Panther fan that believes in something that STILL HASN'T WORKED is right. That's just how it always goes. Me ranting about Anderson/Garrison/Bouwmeester all the wrong moves were made with each of these guys but certain fans of this team LOVE to defend these horrible mistakes. I'm sorry, I'm not like you guys, I've probably been a fan a lot longer than most of you and have endured the worst years, even worse than this year. The years after Bure was traded were the absolute down years and of course we are back there because of the incompetence of our scouting/medical/management/ and most importantly INSTABILITY inside this franchise. Having a CLOWN owner doesn't help either.
- BallardHitsHard22

Well crap, if you had not been such an incredible idiot back then, you could have called me and I would've told you that any team in the hands of Mike Keenan or Jacques Martin was a recipe for disaster. Your problem appears to be you believed in those buffoons. But if you cannot see the difference between present management (not ownership- management) and those clowns then there really actually is no reason to correspond with you here.