WaterBoy
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Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT Joined: 06.27.2006
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Unstoppable shots by the best players IN THE WORLD! - Pecafan Fan
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WaterBoy
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Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT Joined: 06.27.2006
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ok fair enough but generally, goalies who have $40 million contracts are held to a higher standard than "only as good as the team in front of them". - scotch_tape
I agree.
I just hate that mentality of.. .big bucks for a goalie. The league has changed. It's not a goalie league now.
Anyways.. we are "stuck" for now with that contract. |
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WaterBoy
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Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT Joined: 06.27.2006
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You guys think Douglas Murray would've done a difference ? |
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Not_Yan
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Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes. Joined: 04.19.2013
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Anyway, (frank) hockey.
Enjoy your summer, folk. |
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WaterBoy
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Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT Joined: 06.27.2006
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Anyway, (frank) hockey.
Enjoy your summer, folk. - Not_Yan
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dt99999
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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I agree.
I just hate that mentality of.. .big bucks for a goalie. The league has changed. It's not a goalie league now.
Anyways.. we are "stuck" for now with that contract. - WaterBoy
I don't agree. if you look at all the teams that have won the Cup in recent years they've pretty much all done so on the back of a good goalie.
you may be right that the era of a goalie who dominates for an extended period of time like Roy Hasek and Brodeur may be over but you still need a very good goalie. |
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habs_mike_27
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 12.18.2006
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EVERY NHLer is a winner before they get to the NHL.
now what you're saying about Price may be true. yeah, every goalie needs a decent top 4, protection, etc. and it's hard to blame him for what happened in game 4. Zibanajad's goal should never have counted, and maybe this series takes a different turn. but what i look back on is game 1. up 2-1 in the third, and Price serves up the tying goal on a silver platter, and then gives up 2 more questionable goals. like i said, i agree with your point on defence. but at a certain point, the goalie needs to do it alone and he needs to stop the puck. and Price isn't there. - scotch_tape
Listen, I'm no apologist. I agree 100% with your analysis for game 1. And he absolutley had to be better all series. But im not giving up on him just yet. |
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Traceur
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Location: Animosity, QC Joined: 03.27.2008
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I don't agree. if you look at all the teams that have won the Cup in recent years they've pretty much all done so on the back of a good goalie.
you may be right that the era of a goalie who dominates for an extended period of time like Roy Hasek and Brodeur may be over but you still need a very good goalie. - dt99999
I disagree, I think you mostly need a goalie that goes hot at the right time ... problem is, Price rarely goes hot |
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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I disagree, I think you mostly need a goalie that goes hot at the right time ... problem is, Price rarely goes hot - Traceur
COMPLETELY out of line! |
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WaterBoy
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Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT Joined: 06.27.2006
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I don't agree. if you look at all the teams that have won the Cup in recent years they've pretty much all done so on the back of a good goalie.
you may be right that the era of a goalie who dominates for an extended period of time like Roy Hasek and Brodeur may be over but you still need a very good goalie. - dt99999
Of course you need a good goalie.
And yes... gore are the days of Roy, Brodeur etc etc.
I'd rather have a loaded team up front instead of having to rely on a goalie to win you 2-1 games. |
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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Of course you need a good goalie.
And yes... gore are the days of Roy, Brodeur etc etc.
I'd rather have a loaded team up front instead of having to rely on a goalie to win you 2-1 games. - WaterBoy
yes. |
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muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY Joined: 02.10.2007
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COMPLETELY out of line! - dt99999
I don't agree |
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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I don't agree - muffin_man
UNACCEPTABLE! |
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3M
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Location: Antigua Joined: 06.30.2009
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EVERY NHLer is a winner before they get to the NHL.
now what you're saying about Price may be true. yeah, every goalie needs a decent top 4, protection, etc. and it's hard to blame him for what happened in game 4. Zibanajad's goal should never have counted, and maybe this series takes a different turn. but what i look back on is game 1. up 2-1 in the third, and Price serves up the tying goal on a silver platter, and then gives up 2 more questionable goals. like i said, i agree with your point on defence. but at a certain point, the goalie needs to do it alone and he needs to stop the puck. and Price isn't there. - scotch_tape
Frankly, I'm surprised that nobody has photoshopped a soccer jersey with Zibanejad's name on it yet. |
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Oilhab
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Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French Joined: 07.01.2006
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UNACCEPTABLE! - dt99999
why so angry bro? |
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Traceur
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Location: Animosity, QC Joined: 03.27.2008
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I hope Bergevin won't change his rebuilding plan because of the surprising regular season this team had .... old vets still need to go:
-Gionta (we have a perfect replacement for him in Gallagher)
-Markov (if we can get something of value for him)
-Moen (Useless)
-Kaberle (buy-out)
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_nay_
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Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty Joined: 04.06.2011
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I hope Bergevin won't change his rebuilding plan because of the surprising regular season this team had .... old vets still need to go:
-Gionta (we have a perfect replacement for him in Gallagher)
-Markov (if we can get something of value for him)
-Moen (Useless)
-Kaberle (buy-out) - Traceur
Thought Markov would be traded at the deadline. Would have fetched (sorry crims) a 1st. |
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habs_mike_27
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 12.18.2006
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I disagree, I think you mostly need a goalie that goes hot at the right time ... problem is, Price rarely goes hot - Traceur
A hot goalie will only take you so far (see Mike Smith). There is no way you can judge Carey's lack of success solely on his own. The Canadiens haven't had a team close to any of the past 5 Stanley cup champs, and they ALL had solid goaltending, you need it all, not just one or the other. It's funny that we expect glorious things from Price, but the Canadiens have failed to insulate him properly, instead focusing on contracts for undersized forwards, and defencemen.
Again, not trying to be an apologist, but lets be realistic. If Carey Price has a defence corps close to that of the Rangers or Blues or L.A. and still can't perform, then by all means fire away, but until then we must manage our expectations.
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Les protéines, les pâtes, pis l'Gatorade. |
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_nay_
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Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty Joined: 04.06.2011
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A hot goalie will only take you so far (see Mike Smith). There is no way you can judge Carey's lack of success solely on his own. The Canadiens haven't had a team close to any of the past 5 Stanley cup champs, and they ALL had solid goaltending, you need it all, not just one or the other. It's funny that we expect glorious things from Price, but the Canadiens have failed to insulate him properly, instead focusing on contracts for undersized forwards, and defencemen.
Again, not trying to be an apologist, but lets be realistic. If Carey Price has a defence corps close to that of the Rangers or Blues or L.A. and still can't perform, then by all means fire away, but until then we must manage our expectations. - habs_mike_27
Then why has the whole team been far better than last year, but Price still had the same average stats? |
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_nay_
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Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty Joined: 04.06.2011
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Les protéines, les pâtes, pis l'Gatorade. - Pecafan Fan
Nouveau tchess bruh? |
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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A hot goalie will only take you so far (see Mike Smith). There is no way you can judge Carey's lack of success solely on his own. The Canadiens haven't had a team close to any of the past 5 Stanley cup champs, and they ALL had solid goaltending, you need it all, not just one or the other. It's funny that we expect glorious things from Price, but the Canadiens have failed to insulate him properly, instead focusing on contracts for undersized forwards, and defencemen.
Again, not trying to be an apologist, but lets be realistic. If Carey Price has a defence corps close to that of the Rangers or Blues or L.A. and still can't perform, then by all means fire away, but until then we must manage our expectations. - habs_mike_27
I like Price but once in a while he has to steal you a game.... not even a series... one game. |
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Habitants98
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.24.2012
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You guys think Douglas Murray would've done a difference ? - WaterBoy
Douglas Murray can STILL make a difference, only in the offseason it wont cost us our many 2nd round picks |
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Traceur
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Animosity, QC Joined: 03.27.2008
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A hot goalie will only take you so far (see Mike Smith). There is no way you can judge Carey's lack of success solely on his own. The Canadiens haven't had a team close to any of the past 5 Stanley cup champs, and they ALL had solid goaltending, you need it all, not just one or the other. It's funny that we expect glorious things from Price, but the Canadiens have failed to insulate him properly, instead focusing on contracts for undersized forwards, and defencemen.
Again, not trying to be an apologist, but lets be realistic. If Carey Price has a defence corps close to that of the Rangers or Blues or L.A. and still can't perform, then by all means fire away, but until then we must manage our expectations. - habs_mike_27
We should have managed our expectations from the start, Price was sold to us as a Roy/Brodeur type goalie, which he obviously isn't. That said, he's good and I'm sure he would perform well would he benefit from a great defence corp |
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Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French Joined: 07.01.2006
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Les protéines, les pâtes, pis l'Gatorade. - Pecafan Fan
You saw some protein paste and thought to yourself, hmm that might taste good? |
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