Yes, every member of this defense group is brutal and we somehow stumbled into #5.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Slithered was more what I was thinking.

What were your expectations of Gardiner? They seem to be very high since all he can do is wrong in your opinion. He is a mid first round pick developing at a normal pace, what is he supposed to be doing?
- senstroll

I can't look at Gardiner and not see the major flaws that are uncoachable in his game and are peewee hockey problems. Can he skate and skate with the puck? Yep. But that's it. You put your team at risk and in confusion when you jump into every single rush. Watch where his rushes usually end up. No where is the answer.

exactly.

HH is like a real life forrest gump.
- big_dion

Nah I just understand what you don't. That's winning.

*raises hand*
- hscesq

liar

hahahaha you are one pathetic loser.
- big_dion

This guy is trying to be the new Unholy_Goalie.

Difference is... UG is funny at times.

I can't look at Gardiner and not see the major flaws that are uncoachable in his game and are peewee hockey problems. Can he skate and skate with the puck? Yep. But that's it. You put your team at risk and in confusion when you jump into every single rush. Watch where his rushes usually end up. No where is the answer.
- honesthockey

uncoachable?

you're out to lunch man.

it's quite the opposite, he has the intangibles and needs the rest to fall into place with good coaching

*raises hand*
- hscesq

So am I annoying you so much in Engels that you had to sneak over here?

I rather take the word of Eakins then a poster on HB about Gardiner.
- LeafMan

its not like the leafs drafted him 1st overall or traded a bunch to get him. He is 22 learning to play defense, there will be ups and downs. he makes it sound like there is no way he will ever get better or learn.

Nah I just understand what you don't. That's winning.
- honesthockey

There are players who mature later than others

Chara looked like a giraffe on skates the last year in the playoffs with the Sens.

Do you think the Sens would like him back?

So am I annoying you so much in Engels that you had to sneak over here?

- Tee-Dot

Good god you're a pain in the ass.

France beat Russia?

liar
- Garnie

What? I do hate your team. Just being honest.

France beat Russia?
- Atomic Wedgie

Oui.

uncoachable?

you're out to lunch man.

it's quite the opposite, he has the intangibles and needs the rest to fall into place with good coaching
- dragus84

You can't coach compete in your own end. He has no interest. Every other player understands giving your partner a pass option. How many times did a Leaf have the puck in their own corner and Gardiner is standing still in front of his own net giving zero options. He doesn't think the game well at all. Pond hockey.

I can't look at Gardiner and not see the major flaws that are uncoachable in his game and are peewee hockey problems. Can he skate and skate with the puck? Yep. But that's it. You put your team at risk and in confusion when you jump into every single rush. Watch where his rushes usually end up. No where is the answer.
- honesthockey

Be honest is this your analysis from years of watching hockey from your couch or have you coached at any level?

Good god you're a pain in the ass.
- hscesq

In two threads, luckily not two languages.

You can't coach compete in your own end. He has no interest. Every other player understands giving your partner a pass option. How many times did a Leaf have the puck in their own corner and Gardiner is standing still in front of his own net giving zero options. He doesn't think the game well at all. Pond hockey.
- honesthockey

so it is that he can't defend in his own end or he can't break out?

its not like the leafs drafted him 1st overall or traded a bunch to get him. He is 22 learning to play defense, there will be ups and downs. he makes it sound like there is no way he will ever get better or learn.
- senstroll

Most difficult position to learn, some have great rookie years then struggle the next, tons of examples of this.

What? I do hate your team. Just being honest.
- hscesq

But you admit that Lupul is sexy, right?

Like, Oh My God, what a giant slab of dreamy kind of sexy.

so it is that he can't defend in his own end or he can't break out?
- dragus84

Given time he can skate it out better then 90% of the league. What's that about 1/100th of the game?

You can't coach compete in your own end. He has no interest. Every other player understands giving your partner a pass option. How many times did a Leaf have the puck in their own corner and Gardiner is standing still in front of his own net giving zero options. He doesn't think the game well at all. Pond hockey.
- honesthockey

this is such BS that you couldnt possibly know. Please tell me you have spent time with Jake to be inside his head otherwise get your head out of your ass

But you admit that Lupul is sexy, right?

Like, Oh My God, what a giant slab of dreamy kind of sexy.
- Atomic Wedgie

Well, I'm human after all.

this is such BS that you couldnt possibly know. Please tell me you have spent time with Jake to be inside his head otherwise get your head out of your ass
- senstroll

*grabs popcorn*

Luke Schenn with Le But.

this is such BS that you couldnt possibly know. Please tell me you have spent time with Jake to be inside his head otherwise get your head out of your ass
- senstroll

You can't see that? It's a visual.