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fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

May 9 @ 5:42 PM ET
I think it is better than taking on another bad contract . If he is not picked up then take on a bad contract .
- VANTEL


How bad does it look on Gillis to have to buy out 2 big contracts and then put a 3rd one on waivers? That alone should cost him his job.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

May 9 @ 5:43 PM ET
How bad does it look on Gillis to have to buy out 2 big contracts and then put a 3rd one on waivers? That alone should cost him his job.
- fiveandagame

is ownership really going to put up the money for all that?
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

May 9 @ 5:44 PM ET
is ownership really going to put up the money for all that?
- wingz4life


Great question.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

May 9 @ 5:45 PM ET
We need to spend our mney on scoring not D
- VANTEL


I agree. I think if you can trade edler and bieksa I would be fine keeping ballard. I just don't think you can get anything for ballard. I would be fine with a 7th round pick for him. I realize we have way to much money locked up on backend.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
Luongo to NYI for Nino N or

Lu Jensen to Pitts for Fluery Engelend
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

May 9 @ 5:48 PM ET
Luongo to NYI for Nino N or

Lu Jensen to Pitts for Fluery Engelend

- VANTEL


MAF costs to much to back up Schneider.

It's to bad Okposo has been having a great playoffs, would have tried to get him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 9 @ 5:49 PM ET
How bad does it look on Gillis to have to buy out 2 big contracts and then put a 3rd one on waivers? That alone should cost him his job.
- fiveandagame


I hear ya .. I think we have to see what the options are ,maybe Booth might still be here next year?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 9 @ 5:49 PM ET
MAF costs to much to back up Schneider.
- immature_male


3 years left . He might be tradable
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 9 @ 5:51 PM ET
I agree. I think if you can trade edler and bieksa I would be fine keeping ballard. I just don't think you can get anything for ballard. I would be fine with a 7th round pick for him. I realize we have way to much money locked up on backend.
- immature_male


But then we are back to spending 4.2 mil on a 5/6 Dman with Ballard
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

May 9 @ 5:52 PM ET
I hear ya .. I think we have to see what the options are ,maybe Booth might still be here next year?
- VANTEL


Then that is a 4.5 mil waste of cap space. Not good for a team trying to shed salary. At the end of the day, this team is going to have to do some major scrambling in the next couple of months.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

May 9 @ 5:52 PM ET
3 years left . He might be tradable
- VANTEL


would rather go cheap in goal, Schneider and Lack/Cannata.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

May 9 @ 5:53 PM ET
But then we are back to spending 4.2 mil on a 5/6 Dman with Ballard
- VANTEL


Would make them our 3/4. Depends if they are going to go retool or rebuild.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 5:53 PM ET
If they buy out Lou's contract Gillis will get his walking papers at the same time.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 9 @ 5:54 PM ET
would rather go cheap in goal, Schneider and Lack/Cannata.
- immature_male



Agreed but if you had MAF and NYI have only Rocky signed next year we might be able to parlay him for Nino
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 9 @ 5:55 PM ET
Would make them our 3/4. Depends if they are going to go retool or rebuild.
- immature_male


Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Tanev
would be your top 4
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

May 9 @ 5:55 PM ET
If they buy out Lou's contract Gillis will get his walking papers at the same time.
- thundachunk


I don't know if Aquillni would even approve that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 9 @ 5:56 PM ET
If they buy out Lou's contract Gillis will get his walking papers at the same time.
- thundachunk


Not going to happen
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

May 9 @ 5:57 PM ET
Agreed but if you had MAF and NYI have only Rocky signed next year we might be able to parlay him for Nino
- VANTEL


If a deal in place to move MAF then I would do it. Hate to be stuck with a 5 million dollar backup for multiple seasons (again)
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 5:58 PM ET
Not going to happen
- VANTEL

IMO waivers
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 9 @ 5:58 PM ET
If there is something I like about the nhl it's the draft. I understand that after round 1 it's a crap shoot. I don't see it that way. The players we pick just don't produce because van thinks they are getting a steal. There is dominate junior players and players that play a nhl games in juniors that has yet to be refined.
- manvanfan


And the last two first rounders the drafted were the best available out of the OHL at the spot they were drafting. They're not going to use every pick they have on the CHL.

They also picked up McEneny from Kitchener, who would have likely been a 2nd/3rd round pick if not for his injury.

Most of the Canucks draftees did quite wellin their respective leagues.

It sounds like you're expecting results similar to teams with better and more picks than the Canucks have—it's simply not realistic.

This is a product of being a successful regular season team for years, and trading some picks for depth and to fill holes for playoff runs.

The Canucks will likely get a number of help from some of the later round picks of the last 5 years, and the 1st rounders also look promising—that's good drafting.

It's not as great as some teams, but it's good.

The Canucks have never had this many prospects playing pro hockey.

I understand your frustration about the lack of elite talent, put it's simply not realistic considering the circumstances.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

May 9 @ 5:59 PM ET
Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Tanev
would be your top 4

- VANTEL


Hamhuis / Garrison
Ballard / Tanev
Trade return / Corrodo

Edler and Bieksa should be able to get us something, and IMO if you package one with Luo might help moving him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 9 @ 6:00 PM ET
IMO waivers
- thundachunk


Maybe . NYI or Pitt might be intersted
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

May 9 @ 6:01 PM ET
And the last two first rounders the drafted were the best available out of the OHL at the spot they were drafting. They're not going to use every pick they have on the CHL.

They also picked up McEneny from Kitchener, who would have likely been a 2nd/3rd round pick if not for his injury.

Most of the Canucks draftees did quite wellin their respective leagues.

It sounds like you're expecting results similar to teams with better and more picks than the Canucks have—it's simply not realistic.

This is a product of being a successful regular season team for years, and trading some picks for depth and to fill holes for playoff runs.

The Canucks will likely get a number of help from some of the later round picks of the last 5 years, and the 1st rounders also look promising—that's good drafting.

It's not as great as some teams, but it's good.

The Canucks have never had this many prospects playing pro hockey.

I understand your frustration about the lack of elite talent, put it's simply not realistic considering the circumstances.

- Fosco


yes and no
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 6:02 PM ET
Maybe . NYI or Pitt might be intersted
- VANTEL

Vokoun may steal the show. We will see.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 9 @ 6:02 PM ET
Hamhuis / Garrison
Ballard / Tanev
Trade return / Corrodo

Edler and Bieksa should be able to get us something, and IMO if you package one with Luo might help moving him.

- immature_male


That would be a very soft D and Garrison playing on the wrong side
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