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TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 7 @ 11:17 PM ET
So, lets say we dump Fleury in the off season, What goalie do you go for for the future assuming Vokoun wont be the starter, (maybe the 1A, but I don't think he can handle 60 games) and what do you propose we give up for him, or sign him for assuming he's a Free Agent?
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

May 7 @ 11:19 PM ET
So, lets say we dump Fleury in the off season, What goalie do you go for for the future assuming Vokoun wont be the starter, (maybe the 1A, but I don't think he can handle 60 games) and what do you propose we give up for him, or sign him for assuming he's a Free Agent?
- TheGame316

lets talk about the playoffs, they're still going on.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 7 @ 11:19 PM ET
So, lets say we dump Fleury in the off season, What goalie do you go for for the future assuming Vokoun wont be the starter, (maybe the 1A, but I don't think he can handle 60 games) and what do you propose we give up for him, or sign him for assuming he's a Free Agent?
- TheGame316

MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:19 PM ET
So, lets say we dump Fleury in the off season, What goalie do you go for for the future assuming Vokoun wont be the starter, (maybe the 1A, but I don't think he can handle 60 games) and what do you propose we give up for him, or sign him for assuming he's a Free Agent?
- TheGame316


Nervous Neuvy might be available - just signed a 2 year deal at a reasonable price.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 7 @ 11:19 PM ET
lets talk about the playoffs, they're still going on.
- SuperHenderson13


I'm all talked out about that game
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:19 PM ET

- BulliesPhan87


TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 7 @ 11:20 PM ET
Luongo for Jeffery and a 3rd
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 7 @ 11:21 PM ET
my lineup going into Thursday

Dupuis-Crosby-Iginla
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Morrow
Kennedy-Vitale-Adams

Letang-Oprik
Martin-Murray
Despres-Eaton

Vokoun
MAF

- SuperHenderson13


I'm not dressing Adams over Jussi.

I wish Bylsma would have had Despres with Letang all year and maybe now he wouldn't look like a deer in headlights.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

May 7 @ 11:24 PM ET
I'm not dressing Adams over Jussi.

I wish Bylsma would have had Despres with Letang all year and maybe now he wouldn't look like a deer in headlights.

- madmike71

Adams has been one of the few players that I think have had a good series. Adams has played pretty smart IMO.

I think it would be between Jussi and Vitale for that final spot.

penguins need a spark. sometimes a change is needed.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

May 7 @ 11:24 PM ET
lets talk about the playoffs, they're still going on.
- SuperHenderson13


I'm getting tired of talking about the same thing. Fleury is a siv, forwards don't back check and are pussies on the forecheck, the defense is losing battles along the boards. Orpik and Neal did help, but when your goalie puts in 2 into his own net and your star player makes a bonehead move and runs over your goalie, there's only so much you can do. Dump glass and throw in Kennedy. Kennedy-jokinen-Adams is a nice 4th line.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

May 7 @ 11:25 PM ET
I'm not dressing Adams over Jussi.

I wish Bylsma would have had Despres with Letang all year and maybe now he wouldn't look like a deer in headlights.

- madmike71


Sort of get the feeling feeling dan is over analytical and critical.
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:30 PM ET
Is anyone else as annoyed by this "Gerber Life College Plan" commercial that plays about 20 times per game (often back-to-back) as I am ? The lady asks "How did you even know where to start ?" concerning saving for college. Um, lady, there's this thing called the internet which has a search engine called Google, you (frank)ing moron !
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 7 @ 11:30 PM ET
Sort of get the feeling feeling dan is over analytical and critical.
- powerhouse


Some people might call it stubborn or hard headed. The only person in Pittsburgh that thought Engelland deserved a spot over Despres is Disco. I'm talking ex-players too. Nobody understood what Despres did to get jerked around. Now he's a basket case and afraid to make a mistake.....so he's useless at this point even though they could use his skating ability.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

May 7 @ 11:36 PM ET
Some people might call it stubborn or hard headed. The only person in Pittsburgh that thought Engelland deserved a spot over Despres is Disco. I'm talking ex-players too. Nobody understood what Despres did to get jerked around. Now he's a basket case and afraid to make a mistake.....so he's useless at this point even though they could use his skating ability.
- madmike71


Yes, Despres is the obvious thing. But it may be indicative of other bad decisions when it comes to managing the most important asset, the people. (players)
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 7 @ 11:43 PM ET
I'm not impress...

It's a pathetic performance.

Half the team doesn't care... pfffff....

That defensive squad... I think their goal... I really start to believe their goal is to be the worst defensive squad in the League. And they're doing such a great job to be the worst defensive squad in the League. They turn the puck over, they have no vision... They soff like I never see a bunch of defensmen soff like this.

Hey... There are a lot of guys don't care. They pretend to care, but I know they don't care.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

May 7 @ 11:44 PM ET
I'm not impress...

It's a pathetic performance.

Half the team doesn't care... pfffff....

That defensive squad... I think their goal... I really start to believe their goal is to be the worst defensive squad in the League. And they're doing such a great job to be the worst defensive squad in the League. They turn the puck over, they have no vision... They soff like I never see a bunch of defensmen soff like this.

Hey... There are a lot of guys don't care. They pretend to care, but I know they don't care.

- rival22


Very soff. Forwards too, very poor gap control. Backing in and passive. hate it.
cygnus41
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.23.2012

May 7 @ 11:44 PM ET
Yes, Despres is the obvious thing. But it may be indicative of other bad decisions when it comes to managing the most important asset, the people. (players)
- powerhouse


Underplaying Despres and Vitale, overplaying Glass. Not sitting Malkin and Neal when they are playing like angry children. It goes on. He doesn't seem to motivate the team the way he did in 2009 and 2010.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 7 @ 11:49 PM ET
Luongo for Jeffery and a 3rd
- TheGame316


Last thing we need is the combo of his contract and the fact he chokes in the play-offs. Luongo is a NO GO. Shouldn't be considered.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

May 7 @ 11:51 PM ET
And game 5
- schiefer466


oops. That's what I meant. The game got me too flustered to think properly.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

May 7 @ 11:51 PM ET
Last thing we need is the combo of his contract and the fact he chokes in the play-offs. Luongo is a NO GO. Shouldn't be considered.
- Oneonta Penguin


I hate to be crude BUT, my dead grandma (God bess her soul), standing up in her coffin could have stopped more rubber. (sorry grandma)
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 7 @ 11:51 PM ET
To me, it's on the players... Blysma doesn't just become a bad coach in the playoffs. If his system is so easily beaten, teams would do it in the regular season too.

rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 7 @ 11:58 PM ET
Not that it was his focus, but MAF could have gone a long way this post season to earning a major role on the 2014 Canadian Olympic team. He's crushed that so far.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 7 @ 11:58 PM ET
Last thing we need is the combo of his contract and the fact he chokes in the play-offs. Luongo is a NO GO. Shouldn't be considered.
- Oneonta Penguin


Luongo's contract is fine, if you trade him in 5 years to a team desperate to get to the cap floor (ala the Isles this year and Tim Thomas) you'll easily find a taker - even if he's still playing the salary drops to peanuts, someone will want that contract even if they dont want the player

For now he is elite level and can be had for nothing - He's "choked" as much as any goalie has who has played in the playoffs and never won a cup, and he did take a team to game 7
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

May 7 @ 11:58 PM ET
To me, it's on the players... Blysma doesn't just become a bad coach in the playoffs. If his system is so easily beaten, teams would do it in the regular season too.
- rival22


To me it is equal and mutual. How can a team who punishes others throughout the season play the poorest hockey we can imagine. Sorry, bylsma is equally culpable and frankly if he is stil there I refuse to go to any games next year and I generally go to 20.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

May 7 @ 11:59 PM ET
Not that it was his focus, but MAF could have gone a long way this post season to earning a major role on the 2014 Canadian Olympic team. He's crushed that so far.
- rival22


Who cares! Sorry.
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