MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Or we could use patience instead of blowing one of our most valuable assets on a carle-esque player who we're just going to hate when he gets here because of his insufficient d play. I'm tellin you, drafting is golden. Our team is young enough so that our best players will still be a year or 2 away from their prime when our best youth reaches the NHL. Matt Read, a 2014 1st, a 2013 2nd, 2014 2nd, and braydon coburn. What are your opinions on this for the #4 or there around? Nich is gonna be good, like real good. He can be our poor man's Ovechkin. He plays the style, the position, has the size, the speed, the hands, the shot isn't there yet but it will get there, even the country. I'd trade matt read, coburn, and a #20 prospect for a poor man's ovechkin, idk about you. Pulock or Zadorov can be real good two-way dmen, and yes I think drafting is the cheapest and most feasible option for getting our #1. Until they're ready, we can sign stop gaps (See Gonchar, Sergei; Streit, Mark) until they're closer, and still compete for the playoffs in the mean time. What do you guys, kings of realism, think of this trade? Are my orange glasses on to tight? Is Coburn worth even aittle bit more than a 2nd rounder? - JAKEw1234
Your aren't getting a top 5 pick without giving up one of your best young players, and possibly the 11 pick. Have you even considered what the needs of the teams picking in the top 5 are? And why they would make the trade?
I'm GM of the team with the 4th pick, and you call me asking for the pick. If I need a Forward, I'm asking you for Couturier plus. |
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isaiah520
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Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it" Joined: 12.26.2006
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Position has no relevance to the point he was making. - MJL
quite germane and accurate. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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quite germane and accurate. - isaiah520
Your right, my reply to you was accurate.
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bird_dog
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Location: PEI Joined: 09.30.2011
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The cloning went fine, it was the rapid aging to get him ready for this season that went wrong. - twotoekenn
Actually sources said that they used DNA from current concussion Pronger and when he was aged he still ended up having a concussion.
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JAKEw1234
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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Your aren't getting a top 5 pick without giving up one of your best young players, and possibly the 11 pick. Have you even considered what the needs of the teams picking in the top 5 are? And why they would make the trade?
I'm GM of the team with the 4th pick, and you call me asking for the pick. If I need a Forward, I'm asking you for Couturier plus. - MJL
anything more than couturier and a 2nd is pretty good overpayment. Idk, I think I'd give B Schenn and a couple picks for someone like Nich though... I guess you have to weigh your priorities. Homer wants to get bigger, this is a pretty creative way to do it. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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anything more than couturier and a 2nd is pretty good overpayment. Idk, I think I'd give B Schenn and a couple picks for someone like Nich though... I guess you have to weigh your priorities. Homer wants to get bigger, this is a pretty creative way to do it. - JAKEw1234
It sure is creative. Only one issue that you continually don't consider. The other team has to agree.
One basic principle. If you want a top asset from a team. Be prepared to give up top assets in return. |
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stveshdy
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anything more than couturier and a 2nd is pretty good overpayment. Idk, I think I'd give B Schenn and a couple picks for someone like Nich though... I guess you have to weigh your priorities. Homer wants to get bigger, this is a pretty creative way to do it. - JAKEw1234
Absolutely hate that thought process. The game has changed and you need to get more players with speed and playmaking ability. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Absolutely hate that thought process. The game has changed and you need to get more players with speed and playmaking ability. - stveshdy
Ideally you need a mix. And bigger doesn't necessarily mean slower.
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JAKEw1234
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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It sure is creative. Only one issue that you continually don't consider. The other team has to agree.
One basic principle. If you want a top asset from a team. Be prepared to give up top assets in return. - MJL
It's true... for Nich I think it'd truly be worth it though. I'd give quite a bit for a poor man's ovechkin, I guess B Schenn makes that list. |
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stveshdy
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Ideally you need a mix. And bigger doesn't necessarily mean slower. - MJL
When I think bigger and hear those words from Homer it brings me to the old days.
I honestly don't care about the size but more about the players ability to play the game. |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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It's true... for Nich I think it'd truly be worth it though. I'd give quite a bit for a poor man's ovechkin, I guess B Schenn makes that list. - JAKEw1234
Stick & stay at #11 we have many needs that can't be filled with giving up assets and picks to move up. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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It's true... for Nich I think it'd truly be worth it though. I'd give quite a bit for a poor man's ovechkin, I guess B Schenn makes that list. - JAKEw1234
And the other team knows that they're in line for a potential impact player. They aren't giving that up for a solid forward, a defensive defenseman. A 1st round pick that could be late. And some later round picks.
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stveshdy
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Stick & stay at #11 we have many needs that can't be filled with giving up assets and picks to move up. - ob18
That would be the wise thing to do. I don't see any player that's going to make an immediate impact for this club next year. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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When I think bigger and hear those words from Homer it brings me to the old days.
I honestly don't care about the size but more about the players ability to play the game. - stveshdy
I agree with you. More about the size of the fight in the dog, then the size of the dog. But I think some bigger players in the forward ranks is a need. That can be accomplished by younger players maturing physically, and possibly by some players already in the Organization. But I think they could use a strong physical 3rd line Winger type.
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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That would be the wise thing to do. I don't see any player that's going to make an immediate impact for this club next year. - stveshdy
Some could but what the Flyers would have to give up just to get them isn't worth it and still won't fix some of the issues they had this past season. |
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stveshdy
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I agree with you. More about the size of the fight in the dog, then the size of the dog. But I think some bigger players in the forward ranks is a need. That can be accomplished by younger players maturing physically, and possibly by some players already in the Organization. But I think they could use a strong physical 3rd line Winger type. - MJL
It's still shocking to see the playoffs happening and the Flyers not playing right now. |
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stveshdy
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Some could but what the Flyers would have to give up just to get them isn't worth it and still won't fix some of the issues they had this past season. - ob18
I don't know much about all the players in the draft but the Flyers biggest need is upgrading the blue-line and I don't see many rookies stepping in right away and being a stud. |
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JAKEw1234
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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That would be the wise thing to do. I don't see any player that's going to make an immediate impact for this club next year. - stveshdy
As many have said, this team is still a couple years out. We need patience. |
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JAKEw1234
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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Stick & stay at #11 we have many needs that can't be filled with giving up assets and picks to move up. - ob18
I was actually talking about a way to get the #4-6 without giving the #11. Nich at 4-6, Pulock at 11. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I was actually talking about a way to get the #4-6 without giving the #11. Nich at 4-6, Pulock at 11. - JAKEw1234
Maybe slipping some type of hallucinogenics into the drink of choice of a GM at the draft?
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isaiah520
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Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it" Joined: 12.26.2006
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Your right, my reply to you was accurate. - MJL
must depend on the parameters |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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I was actually talking about a way to get the #4-6 without
giving the #11. Nich at 4-6, Pulock at 11. - JAKEw1234
Personally I wouldn't want to pay that price, I don't see it as possible and keeping the #11 pick in this draft. |
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JAKEw1234
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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Personally it's not possible in my eyes, it will cost you in this draft more than you want to even think about giving up. - ob18
Well next years 1st rounder would obviously be involved. B Schenn + 2014 1st rounder? |
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Giroux_Is_God
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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This site needs more dumpster fire - JoeRussomanno
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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Well next years 1st rounder would obviously be involved. B Schenn + 2014 1st rounder? - JAKEw1234
We host the draft next year, try again.....Also They'd want Couturier before B. Schenn |
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