Take myers off the 2010 team. Do they win the division? Highly unlikely.

Iffy example because they flamed out in the playoffs, but Vanek getting targeted and taken out really changed the series. Might have won it
- robz228

IF my aunt had a package shed be my uncle

If I asked Alaxandra Dadario to marry me I might F her

We do not have the talent to win the cup, we have 1 top end talent and a bunch of role players.

IF my aunt had a package shed be my uncle

If I asked Alaxandra Dadario to marry me I might F her

We do not have the talent to win the cup, we have 1 top end talent and a bunch of role players.
- hubie

Why is your only argument if? Sabres could draft mackinnon. "If hes great" they make the playoffs

Theres no scenario possible where you dont depend on potential or the word if

IF my aunt had a package shed be my uncle

If I asked Alaxandra Dadario to marry me I might F her

We do not have the talent to win the cup, we have 1 top end talent and a bunch of role players.
- hubie

no we dont have the talent to win a cup. but people thinking we are so far away from making the playoffs are wrong. this roster isnt a bottom 5 roster, IMO this was the year to bottom out because it was such a tirefire to begin the season.

project the teams record under rolston over the 48, or even an 82 game season and we are playing right now.

Why is your only argument if? Sabres could draft mackinnon. "If hes great" they make the playoffs

Theres no scenario possible where you dont depend on potential or the word if
- robz228

you dont depened on if if you have talent thoughout and that isnt a 1 year fix.

Did the Iles make the playoffs when they got JT? NO and JT is/was at the time of the draft a better player.

no we dont have the talent to win a cup. but people thinking we are so far away from making the playoffs are wrong. this roster isnt a bottom 5 roster, IMO this was the year to bottom out because it was such a tirefire to begin the season.

project the teams record under rolston over the 48, or even an 82 game season and we are playing right now.
- ieetbred

R U happy with the last 12 years of being just good enough to be in the playoffs?

no we dont have the talent to win a cup. but people thinking we are so far away from making the playoffs are wrong. this roster isnt a bottom 5 roster, IMO this was the year to bottom out because it was such a tirefire to begin the season.

project the teams record under rolston over the 48, or even an 82 game season and we are playing right now.
- ieetbred

also who has the worst rosters in your mind?

you dont depened on if if you have talent thoughout and that isnt a 1 year fix.

Did the Iles make the playoffs when they got JT? NO and JT is/was at the time of the draft a better player.
- hubie

Then we disagree on how good the supporting cast here is. One great player they are in the playoffs. 2 great players they are contenders.

My argument is one of the great players could possibly already be on the team, he just needs to take his head out of his ass

Edit: and the 2nd great player could have already been drafted

R U happy with the last 12 years of being just good enough to be in the playoffs?
- hubie

I would rather see playoffs then the poop I have watched the past couple years.

I hope Rolston can add a guy to the staff who can focus on strength, conditioning, and overall health and nutrition. Someone who can lead a good offseason workout for the guys and get them all ripped and ready for the next season. A former player who played with aggression and tenacity. Someone with a lot of playoff experience-- and successful experience. A guy with his name on the cup.

A guy like Gary Roberts.

Then we disagree on how good the supporting cast here is. One great player they are in the playoffs. 2 great players they are contenders.

My argument is one of the great players could possibly already be on the team, he just needs to take his head out of his ass

Edit: and the 2nd great player could have already been drafted
- robz228

This has been my issue with the Myers talk. People say if be plays at an elite level than we make the playoffs. Which might be the case, however that is a horrible plan set in place by Darcy that your young struggling defenseman has to be elite to make the playoffs. We had 4 other defenseman making big money to start this season. Regehr Ehrhoff, Leo and Sekera. We are more than just Myers playing well away from being a good team

Then we disagree on how good the supporting cast here is. One great player they are in the playoffs. 2 great players they are contenders.

My argument is one of the great players could possibly already be on the team, he just needs to take his head out of his ass

Edit: and the 2nd great player could have already been drafted
- robz228

This has been my issue with the Myers talk. People say if be plays at an elite level than we make the playoffs. Which might be the case, however that is a horrible plan set in place by Darcy that your young struggling defenseman has to be elite to make the playoffs. We had 4 other defenseman making big money to start this season. Regehr Ehrhoff, Leo and Sekera. We are more than just Myers playing well away from being a good team

I would rather see playoffs then the poop I have watched the past couple years.
- Smittyx36

So your happy with Darcy's tenture... I sure am not

I hope Rolston can add a guy to the staff who can focus on strength, conditioning, and overall health and nutrition. Someone who can lead a good offseason workout for the guys and get them all ripped and ready for the next season. A former player who played with aggression and tenacity. Someone with a lot of playoff experience-- and successful experience. A guy with his name on the cup.

A guy like Gary Roberts.
- keptupl8

Thats why id have liked darcy out and joe NoodleRichard in

R U happy with the last 12 years of being just good enough to be in the playoffs?
- hubie

no im not happy with just being good enough to be in the playoffs and get bounced in the first round, more specifically because 4 of the last 6 years we havent even been in them.

im not going to act like this is a bottom 5 team however. IF we trade vanek and miller my opinion might change on that. to answer your other post im not going to speak for other rosters that may or may not be worse than ours. fact is we had a winning record under rolston.

This has been my issue with the Myers talk. People say if be plays at an elite level than we make the playoffs. Which might be the case, however that is a horrible plan set in place by Darcy that your young struggling defenseman has to be elite to make the playoffs. We had 4 other defenseman making big money to start this season. Regehr Ehrhoff, Leo and Sekera. We are more than just Myers playing well away from being a good team
- sbroads24

whos to say thats even his plan though. its just whats possible. if that was the case he would have went with the "this season is a fluke" approach and kept the same team going into next year

So your happy with Darcy's tenture... I sure am not
- hubie

come on. how did you even manage to come up with this conclusion based on his post

Then we disagree on how good the supporting cast here is. One great player they are in the playoffs. 2 great players they are contenders.

My argument is one of the great players could possibly already be on the team, he just needs to take his head out of his ass

Edit: and the 2nd great player could have already been drafted
- robz228

Where do you think a great player would come from? They arent in FA so wed have to trade what 3 1sts for a top end guy.

Maybe we can get lucky and get nino from the island since hes unhappy about his role in that org.

come on. how did you even manage to come up with this conclusion based on his post
- robz228

Darcys the majority of time that darcy has spent here we limped into the playoffs. HOw many years have we had a legitimate shot under him? 3-5 years out of 12?

whos to say thats even his plan though. its just whats possible. if that was the case he would have went with the "this season is a fluke" approach and kept the same team going into next year
- robz228

This is the wrong mentality ot have we are the American version of the Flames

This is the wrong mentality ot have we are the American version of the Flames
- hubie

i dont even have a clue what you are trying to talk about anymore.

i dont even have a clue what you are trying to talk about anymore.
- robz228

False Belief that we are better than we actually are (THey beleive they are a playoff team every year.. when they are not......)

False Belief that we are better than we actually are (THey beleive they are a playoff team every year.. when they are not......)
- hubie

So you dont think if this roster this year had 2 great players added to it they would be contenders?

Not superstar, just great players. Put suter and kane on this years sabres under rolston. How good are they?

no im not happy with just being good enough to be in the playoffs and get bounced in the first round, more specifically because 4 of the last 6 years we havent even been in them.

im not going to act like this is a bottom 5 team however. IF we trade vanek and miller my opinion might change on that. to answer your other post im not going to speak for other rosters that may or may not be worse than ours. fact is we had a winning record under rolston.
- ieetbred

15-11-5 is a winning record?

So you dont think if this roster this year had 2 great players added to it they would be contenders?

Not superstar, just great players. Put suter and kane on this years sabres under rolston. How good are they?
- robz228

That's a Norris candidate and Hart Candidate. Those are superstars

False Belief that we are better than we actually are (THey beleive they are a playoff team every year.. when they are not......)
- hubie

who says they believe that anymore? if all this barking about a rebuild actually has some bite to it then it will be clear after the draft and free agency.