Iggysbff
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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I'd agree they were up there....but I think the roles each of the other rookies played on their teams had a little bit bigger of an impact than merely points, and obviously the success of their teams.
Saad for example came in and found a spot on Chicago's first line, not to mention he helped his team win the Presidents trophy.
Gallagher helped his team go from absolute s#it to NE Division Champions, not to mention he was a +10 on the year.
Huberdeau would be the only exception as the Panthers weren't a good team this year. That being said he was second on the team in scoring and played a large roll on that team.
If it was up to me I would swap out Huberdeau and put in Brodin. For a kid like Brodin to come in and play the minutes he played on a playoff team is pretty remarkable. The points weren't there but that's not all what hockey is about!
Shultz and Yakupov had good years, but for the majority of the season Yakupov wasn't effective out there until he found his game towards the end of the year. Schultz had his moments as well but struggled with his defensive game. Not to mention the Oilers had another down year. - The-O-G
Maybe due to the fact that Yak played with Horcoff and Belanger for the first 2/3 of the season? Once he had some real linemates he was on fire. |
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Argument people are making against Brodin is that he played along side Suter which obviously helped. No matter. He still played well enough to get the nod. Schultz was close, but I would have had him just outside the ballot. Yak should 100% be in and should have won it. PHWA are tards. plain and simple. - Iggysbff
It's the same argument that can be used against Saad. Now, who's performance was more impressive? The winger playing on the top line of the President's Trophy winning team or the Dman that played top-pairing minutes on a middling team? |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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It is probably because the writers want a defensemen to actually play defense. Schultz's -17 is Cam Fowler rookie year bad!
Plus Schultz is a lying Dbag.
Yak,,,,,,that is one that is a bit perplexing to be honest. I thought he had a real good year. - H.E.Pennypacker
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LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY Joined: 07.07.2012
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27 points, plus 17, on the first line of the Presidents trophy winning team...sure, maybe he won't win, but he has a place on that list for sure. - The-O-G
He's playing with much better players than Yak. Any other year he's a top 3 choice, but Brodin, Yakupov, and Huberdeau should be the candidates easily. |
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BigDre
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB Joined: 01.09.2012
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I'd agree they were up there....but I think the roles each of the other rookies played on their teams had a little bit bigger of an impact than merely points, and obviously the success of their teams.
Saad for example came in and found a spot on Chicago's first line, not to mention he helped his team win the Presidents trophy.
Gallagher helped his team go from absolute s#it to NE Division Champions, not to mention he was a +10 on the year.
Huberdeau would be the only exception as the Panthers weren't a good team this year. That being said he was second on the team in scoring and played a large roll on that team.
If it was up to me I would swap out Huberdeau and put in Brodin. For a kid like Brodin to come in and play the minutes he played on a playoff team is pretty remarkable. The points weren't there but that's not all what hockey is about!
Shultz and Yakupov had good years, but for the majority of the season Yakupov wasn't effective out there until he found his game towards the end of the year. Schultz had his moments as well but struggled with his defensive game. Not to mention the Oilers had another down year. - The-O-G
You mean he was playing on the 3rd and fourth lines with the likes of Horcoff and Belanger?
He scored what 5 goals in 2-3 games on a line with Hall? |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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It is probably because the writers want a defensemen to actually play defense. Schultz's -17 is Cam Fowler rookie year bad!
Plus Schultz is a lying Dbag.
Yak,,,,,,that is one that is a bit perplexing to be honest. I thought he had a real good year. - H.E.Pennypacker
truth bomb |
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LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY Joined: 07.07.2012
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That guy is dumb, if you're good enough to be on the first line of the Hawks and consistently produce you're good enough for a nom. - SameOld
Hey now... You can provide a rebuttal, but name calling isn't necessary. |
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LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY Joined: 07.07.2012
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Argument people are making against Brodin is that he played along side Suter which obviously helped. No matter. He still played well enough to get the nod. Schultz was close, but I would have had him just outside the ballot. Yak should 100% be in and should have won it. PHWA are tards. plain and simple. - Iggysbff
While I've heard that w/ Brodin, it's also been said that his stability on the back-end has led to Suter finally being able to jump up into the play and create a little offense. He's pretty much doing the same for Suter as Henrik Tallinder did for Tyler Myers. The only thing is... Brodin is almost a decade younger than Suter. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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Maybe due to the fact that Yak played with Horcoff and Belanger for the first 2/3 of the season? Once he had some real linemates he was on fire. - Iggysbff
I agree....but Saad had to earn his spot on the Hawks first line. That's not easy to do!
Again, Yakupov and Schultz had good years, but it's a tough year to get nominated that's for sure! |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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He's playing with much better players than Yak. Any other year he's a top 3 choice, but Brodin, Yakupov, and Huberdeau should be the candidates easily. - LetsGoBuffalo75
He earned his spot on the top line......it wasn't a gift! |
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#71 & #87 R HOCKEY
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: just statting FACTS! Take em o Joined: 05.10.2008
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LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY Joined: 07.07.2012
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He earned his spot on the top line......it wasn't a gift! - The-O-G
Not saying it was. If Huberdeau was put in for doing pretty much the same thing as Yakupov, then why exclude Yakupov? Hell, even Galchenyuk deserves a spot over Saad. He put up the same totals on the 3rd line. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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wtf?
Yakupov is a whiny little female dog who has his day coming. Someone is gonna get him good and he will be out of the league in 5 years.
Schultz.. nuff said. A defenseman that cant play defense - #71 & #87 R HOCKEY
Just shut your yap a focus on beating the lowly Isle's would ya? |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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Not saying it was. If Huberdeau was put in for doing pretty much the same thing as Yakupov, then why exclude Yakupov? Hell, even Galchenyuk deserves a spot over Saad. He put up the same totals on the 3rd line. - LetsGoBuffalo75
Did you read my thoughts on Huberdeau? I don't think he should be there. Either way, Saad deserves to be on that list. Galchenyuk could have been there as well. Tough year, tough decisions. |
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LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY Joined: 07.07.2012
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wtf?
Yakupov is a whiny little female dog who has his day coming. Someone is gonna get him good and he will be out of the league in 5 years.
Schultz.. nuff said. A defenseman that cant play defense - #71 & #87 R HOCKEY
I guess you must be right about that since you know all about whiny little female dogs, eh? You're a joke. |
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wtf?
Yakupov is a whiny little female dog who has his day coming. Someone is gonna get him good and he will be out of the league in 5 years.
Schultz.. nuff said. A defenseman that cant play defense - #71 & #87 R HOCKEY
Can anyone spot the uneducated dooshbag? |
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LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY Joined: 07.07.2012
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Did you read my thoughts on Huberdeau? I don't think he should be there. Either way, Saad deserves to be on that list. Galchenyuk could have been there as well. Tough year, tough decisions. - The-O-G
Points taken. In any event, there were still quite a few very good rooks.
(see SameOld? No name-calling required, I can be reasoned with maturely) |
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Schultz was -17, good enough for 831st best/ 839 players... on a team that only was -9 in goal differential.
I agree with Yak though... shoulda been nominated - GardinerExpress
This. Then again, Schultz has never been interested in playing defense. I don't know why the Oilers don't just switch him to wing like the Sharks did with Burns. |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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wtf?
Yakupov is a whiny little female dog who has his day coming. Someone is gonna get him good and he will be out of the league in 5 years.
Schultz.. nuff said. A defenseman that cant play defense - #71 & #87 R HOCKEY
so, schultz is the next mike green.maybe |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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Points taken. In any event, there were still quite a few very good rooks.
(see SameOld? No name-calling required, I can be reasoned with maturely) - LetsGoBuffalo75
He'll never learn! |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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This. Then again, Schultz has never been interested in playing defense. I don't know why the Oilers don't just switch him to wing like the Sharks did with Burns. - duxcup07
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Lanny9
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Midnapore, AB Joined: 03.06.2013
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Come on, Shultz played top pair minutes and show he is not capable of playing top pair minutes. Should not have been nominated.
Yak has the stats, but he is a showboat, entertaining, passionate about the game... all the things that media hate. Fans love these types of players, the media and there arrogance are clueless.
Brodin should win, Yak should have been nominated. |
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Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 06.01.2009
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I'd agree they were up there....but I think the roles each of the other rookies played on their teams had a little bit bigger of an impact than merely points, and obviously the success of their teams.
Saad for example came in and found a spot on Chicago's first line, not to mention he helped his team win the Presidents trophy.
Gallagher helped his team go from absolute s#it to NE Division Champions, not to mention he was a +10 on the year.
Huberdeau would be the only exception as the Panthers weren't a good team this year. That being said he was second on the team in scoring and played a large roll on that team.
If it was up to me I would swap out Huberdeau and put in Brodin. For a kid like Brodin to come in and play the minutes he played on a playoff team is pretty remarkable. The points weren't there but that's not all what hockey is about!
Shultz and Yakupov had good years, but for the majority of the season Yakupov wasn't effective out there until he found his game towards the end of the year. Schultz had his moments as well but struggled with his defensive game. Not to mention the Oilers had another down year. - The-O-G
Your right. Saad was the reason Chicago won the presidents trophy. You solved it. They were lucky he was their to carry his line mates like Toews and Kane. Those guys would have been lost without hiim. Plus their defense is terrible. I wouldn't for a second take trade all of edmontons for Duncan Keith alone. I can see you are a Calgary fan and thus it is probably time for your medication. Ask them to lower your dose, then come back and read what you wrote.
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keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100% Joined: 12.11.2008
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Schultz is all about the offensive numbers that were mostly on the PP...not impressive...plus the guy was abysmal defensively ...Yakupov probably should have been a nominee but definitely wouldn't have won the Calder...at the end of the day people only remember who wins the Calder and not who was nominated ...it's gonna be Huberdeau no matter what. |
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