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JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

May 6 @ 9:27 PM ET
If you go and look at his proposal, it was Schneider, Bieksa, and Burrows for Campbell and the 2nd overall.

So he wasn't proposing a straight up swap.

- Fosco


I wouldn't make that trade, I always wish Bieksa and Burrows would just close their mouths and play hockey, but when they do....they are good players. Schneider is also a very valuable piece. those three for an overpaid Campbell and the 2nd pick...I wouldn't do it.

I'd lose Kesler (and his attitude) and put some lesser pieces together for that 2nd pick.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 6 @ 9:44 PM ET
As likely as lefty shooting 100 at Cordova Bay
- 1970vintage

Shot 76 today and lost
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 6 @ 10:03 PM ET
Somebody, somewhere in BC go and tell your hockey team to stop whining in the media that the big bad Sharks are "cheaters" and tell them to start playing some hockey for crying out loud. It's embarrassing to the whole country watching them whine in every interview. just play the game.
- JLO961


You do realize Thornton, Couture, and Marleau also "whined" to the media? Why is it always just the Canucks that get heat for this when the team they play always does the same thing?

It's part of the series, always is, and always will be. Just not quite as entertaining as the MTL/OTT media circus.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 6 @ 10:05 PM ET
I wouldn't make that trade, I always wish Bieksa and Burrows would just close their mouths and play hockey, but when they do....they are good players. Schneider is also a very valuable piece. those three for an overpaid Campbell and the 2nd pick...I wouldn't do it.

I'd lose Kesler (and his attitude) and put some lesser pieces together for that 2nd pick.

- JLO961


I wouldn't do it either. But I doubt Talon would, either. Florida will/should keep their picks, and draft someone to play with Huberdeau.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

May 6 @ 10:21 PM ET
Different situation - Calgary not only held on their vets, they also didn't make the playoffs for years. Canucks at least have (had?) some reason to to believe they had a competitive team so why would they sell off.
- docmorgan

I'd rather have a team that poured their heart into a cup run (2004) then a team that on paper should have won it 3 years in a row.

If canucks extend the sedins for 3 more years, they are going to be in the same spot as the flames.

As much as I hate him, they should give Kesler the reigns. trade the sedins, they'll get a crazy return still.

numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

May 6 @ 10:25 PM ET
It's not coddling. It's finding a partner whose skill set allows Edler to play his game better.

Many here forget that Edler was originally the defensive partner placed with Ehrhoff to "coddle" him and allow him play his game more effectively.


On another note, several times this year you wanted to trade Kesler for table scraps. What's changed?

Can't agree with the "C" comment. Kesler is not captain material until he cuts the crap from his game.

- Fosco

you're right on edler. I would't mind seeing him play with tanev more for that reason.

I'm starting to wonder if kesler needs the responsibility to stop his antics.
hit 'em
San Jose Sharks
Location: CA
Joined: 02.03.2007

May 6 @ 10:47 PM ET
You do realize Thornton, Couture, and Marleau also "whined" to the media? Why is it always just the Canucks that get heat for this when the team they play always does the same thing?

It's part of the series, always is, and always will be. Just not quite as entertaining as the MTL/OTT media circus.

- Fosco


Yes sir, the Sharks sure have said some terrible things about the Canucks:

"We felt Lou was playing great. We felt we were lucky not to be playing against him, to be honest with you," Thornton said.

"With this team, we just need to stay disciplined," Couture said Monday. "The way the series has gone, there's been a lot of penalties after whistles. A lot of head shots. Stuff like that. They have a lot of skilled players on their power play. You don't want to give them opportunities".

“I think Luongo’s been great the first two games,” Torres said. “He’s does a hell of a job blocking out all the garbage that’s said about him and he show up to play. Yeah, it feels good to get the winner but you know he’ll bounce back. He always does.”

I can see why Bieksa is so upset.



kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

May 6 @ 10:56 PM ET
Anyone other than DCT feel this team would have won a cup by now If one of us was coach?? (not VANTEL)
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

May 6 @ 11:01 PM ET
Yes sir, the Sharks sure have said some terrible things about the Canucks:

"We felt Lou was playing great. We felt we were lucky not to be playing against him, to be honest with you," Thornton said.

"With this team, we just need to stay disciplined," Couture said Monday. "The way the series has gone, there's been a lot of penalties after whistles. A lot of head shots. Stuff like that. They have a lot of skilled players on their power play. You don't want to give them opportunities".

“I think Luongo’s been great the first two games,” Torres said. “He’s does a hell of a job blocking out all the garbage that’s said about him and he show up to play. Yeah, it feels good to get the winner but you know he’ll bounce back. He always does.”

I can see why Bieksa is so upset.

- hit 'em





You're clever.
IntotheTeal
San Jose Sharks
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 03.26.2011

May 6 @ 11:07 PM ET
You do realize Thornton, Couture, and Marleau also "whined" to the media? Why is it always just the Canucks that get heat for this when the team they play always does the same thing?

It's part of the series, always is, and always will be. Just not quite as entertaining as the MTL/OTT media circus.

- Fosco


I musta missed it, what did the Sharks players whine about?

All I have seen is passive responses to Canuck comments for the most part, if you have a link that would be cool.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 11:09 PM ET
Anyone other than DCT feel this team would have won a cup by now If one of us was coach?? (not VANTEL)
- kneughter



I have seen some of your lineups with Raymond on the 4 th line so my answer would be no not everyone on here could coach this team
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 6 @ 11:11 PM ET
Bieksa complaining about Sharks diving ? really ?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 6 @ 11:26 PM ET
Anyone other than DCT feel this team would have won a cup by now If one of us was coach?? (not VANTEL)
- kneughter


I could have done it

I mean, I coach many of the Oilers players kids at the novice level...
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 6 @ 11:34 PM ET
I'd rather have a team that poured their heart into a cup run (2004) then a team that on paper should have won it 3 years in a row.

If canucks extend the sedins for 3 more years, they are going to be in the same spot as the flames.

As much as I hate him, they should give Kesler the reigns. trade the sedins, they'll get a crazy return still.

- numbear


I would bet that most Canuck fans (at least those old enough to remember) would rather have either of the previous two runner up teams that got there with blood, sweat and incredible goal tending, but these are cards we're dealt. I would say, however, that I like that they are competitive enough to have a shot every year, instead of watching from the side lines. The Sedins are great players, the best (total career) to ever wear an orca, and if they had a better supporting cast and a better coach, they would have a cup by now.

I would argue Kesler is the problem, not the solution.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 6 @ 11:38 PM ET
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 6 @ 11:38 PM ET
Shot 76 today and lost
- LeftCoaster


Tough break, I feel about as sorry for you as system tool does for Lu
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 6 @ 11:41 PM ET

- Scooby_Doo


I don't get it? He's in the penalty box?
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 6 @ 11:46 PM ET
I don't get it? He's in the penalty box?
- 1970vintage


Keep looking...
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 6 @ 11:48 PM ET
Keep looking...
- Scooby_Doo


I'm on my phone, small screen...

Either that or I'm too thick

Oh I get it now
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 6 @ 11:51 PM ET
Keep looking...
- Scooby_Doo



The girls juggling their jugs
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 6 @ 11:52 PM ET
The girls juggling their jugs
- VANTEL


Of course you noticed it right away
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

May 6 @ 11:53 PM ET
I have seen some of your lineups with Raymond on the 4 th line so my answer would be no not everyone on here could coach this team
- VANTEL


I don't think I have ever put raymond on the 4th line.

I would love to see 2 possible line ups:

Sedins Burrows
Kes Roy Higgins
Raymond Schroeder Hansen
Wiese Lappy Kassian

Or

Sedins Kassian
Burrows Kesler Hansen
Higgins Roy Raymond
Wiese Lappy Sestito/ Archibald

The 1st one would be better.. but if AV insists on not having Schroeder in the line up then the 2nd one would make some sense.

I would also love to see Ballard in the line up.. and Alberts out!
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

May 6 @ 11:55 PM ET
after all that...i'm keeping edler in my fantasy pool, even canuck fans have to admit he had a bad year but is capable of much more, no? I'm keeping him after this poor year, but he's young, and strictly offensive, should I keep him??? he can't be worse than he was this year, 50 pts 2 years ago?
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 6 @ 11:59 PM ET
I don't think I have ever put raymond on the 4th line.

I would love to see 2 possible line ups:

Sedins Burrows
Kes Roy Higgins
Raymond Schroeder Hansen
Wiese Lappy Kassian

Or

Sedins Kassian
Burrows Kesler Hansen
Higgins Roy Raymond
Wiese Lappy Sestito/ Archibald

The 1st one would be better.. but if AV insists on not having Schroeder in the line up then the 2nd one would make some sense.

I would also love to see Ballard in the line up.. and Alberts out!

- kneughter


Lineup #1 would have us ahead in the series.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 7 @ 12:02 AM ET
I would bet that most Canuck fans (at least those old enough to remember) would rather have either of the previous two runner up teams that got there with blood, sweat and incredible goal tending, but these are cards we're dealt. I would say, however, that I like that they are competitive enough to have a shot every year, instead of watching from the side lines. The Sedins are great players, the best (total career) to ever wear an orca, and if they had a better supporting cast and a better coach, they would have a cup by now.

I would argue Kesler is the problem, not the solution.

- 1970vintage

Blockbuster with the NYI, who have $30 million in cap space for next year and it looks like they're ready to compete now.

To NYI - Edler and Schneider

To Canucks - Brock Nelson 6'3" 210lbs first rounder 22 yrs old. Nino Niederreitter 6'2" 205lbs first rounder 21 yrs old. Matt Donovan 6' 205lbs fourth rounder 22 yrs old.
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