I know pretty much everyone is on the get rid of Kreider train but I am not getting on board. Sorry I won't give up on someone after just 40 total NHL games.
- TPC

Im not on the 'give up on him' train, but if you can turn him into a proven player at an NHL level, its something to think about.

However, Kreider will not reach his potential under a coach like Tort's. He wants the kids to learn how to play his style without giving them the opportunity to screw up and learn from their mistakes. Furthermore, he doesnt play to players strengths.

I know pretty much everyone is on the get rid of Kreider train but I am not getting on board. Sorry I won't give up on someone after just 40 total NHL games.
- TPC

Me either. I say this all the time, when was the last player to have had 2 playoff years without having an actual real NHL training camp? Not an AHL one, not a 2 week one. A real full month NHL training camp. He hasn't. If after next season he is in the same boat then I'd look to trade him. Not yet tho.

Edit :here's a baseball analogy with Kreider . It's basically like putting you in the majors after college with no minor leauge games, hitting a couple of dingers in the ALDS and teams getting a book on you.

If you want to see the youth and our home grown guys reach their potential...

Fire Torts and Sullivan.
Amnesty Richards
Get rid of Pyatt (Boyle I can deal with for 4th line duties, and PK faceoffs).

Hire Ken Gernander.

Im not on the 'give up on him' train, but if you can turn him into a proven player at an NHL level, its something to think about.

However, Kreider will not reach his potential under a coach like Tort's. He wants the kids to learn how to play his style without giving them the opportunity to screw up and learn from their mistakes. Furthermore, he doesnt play to players strengths.
- aecliptic

Once again after only 40 games, I can't make that kind of statement either. After a full training camp and season under his belt if he is still struggling as badly, then yea you guys may be right. But it is far to early IMO. Maybe Torts is exactly what Kreider needs to get his shyt in gear. Learning the defensive game and how to grind a bit may help his career in the long run. One thing I loved about Kreider's game the last 2 weeks of the season, was all the hits he was throwing. Torts style is rubbing off on him a bit. All of our expectations for him were way to high after those 18 playoff games last year.

I know pretty much everyone is on the get rid of Kreider train but I am not getting on board. Sorry I won't give up on someone after just 40 total NHL games.
- TPC

I know if he goes somewhere else, he'll be a good player. Here he will rot away into a bust. Just the way it goes with our prospects. The Can't miss guys always miss and the sleepers always become franchise players.

I know if he goes somewhere else, he'll be a good player. Here he will rot away into a bust. Just the way it goes with our prospects. The Can't miss guys always miss and the sleepers always become franchise players.
- tomburton99

That could be true, I just think its to early. Anyway this is a debate for the offseason, we got a big game tonight

Once again after only 40 games, I can't make that kind of statement either. After a full training camp and season under his belt if he is still struggling as badly, then yea you guys may be right. But it is far to early IMO. Maybe Torts is exactly what Kreider needs to get his shyt in gear. Learning the defensive game and how to grind a bit may help his career in the long run. One thing I loved about Kreider's game the last 2 weeks of the season, was all the hits he was throwing. Torts style is rubbing off on him a bit. All of our expectations for him were way to high after those 18 playoff games last year.
- TPC

I actually set a relatively low bar for him.... he was hitting everything, but he couldnt get the other side of the game in check, which we saw in last years playoffs is very NHL ready.

Who knows, but I think were all in the same boat on one thing...

Torts leash has one year on it, its all or nothing next year for Torts. Go big or back your bags.

I actually set a relatively low bar for him.... he was hitting everything, but he couldnt get the other side of the game in check, which we saw in last years playoffs is very NHL ready.

Who knows, but I think were all in the same boat on one thing...

Torts leash has one year on it, its all or nothing next year for Torts. Go big or back your bags.
- aecliptic

I don't play hockey but I assume its tough to get in that rhythm offensively when you only see 3 shifts a period.

But really it doesn't matter now as we probably won't see him the rest of the playoffs. Just got to focus on winning tonight. Having Clowe back will be huge, hopefully his big arse can create some traffic on the powerplay

Staal playing tonight, per my twitter going nuts.

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN 47s
#NYR Rangers have activated defenseman Marc Staal (eye) off injured reserve

Staal playing tonight, per my twitter going nuts.
- tomburton99

Staal playing tonight, per my twitter going nuts.
- tomburton99

- rangerdanger94

saw the same thing you did, didn't feel like copying and pasting.

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN 47s
#NYR Rangers have activated defenseman Marc Staal (eye) off injured reserve
- rangerdanger94

My stomach suggests that game time is upon us.

Oh man am I a nervous wreck.

My stomach suggests that game time is upon us.

Oh man am I a nervous wreck.
- MidnightMarauder

Yup mine is turning a bit myself

As mentioned in the blog anybody who blames Lundquist is insane. I the two games he has shut out the caps in 5 out of 6 periods basically he had a bad one minute in the second period.

We need to score some goals

Win tonight defend home ice and its a series it's that simple

Lets go Rangers

if they get swept does Torts come back?

thoughts either way?

if they get swept does Torts come back?

thoughts either way?
- Crimsoninja

no, he bought himself an extra year with last years ECF run.

no, he bought himself an extra year with last years ECF run.
- aecliptic

i think he gets another crack at it with this roster with a full training camp. i could see him being let go before the deadline though if the team still sucks.

what's larry robinson up to nowadays?

i think he gets another crack at it with this roster with a full training camp. i could see him being let go before the deadline though if the team still sucks.

what's larry robinson up to nowadays?
- rangerdanger94

Assistant coach with the Sharks.

i think he gets another crack at it with this roster with a full training camp. i could see him being let go before the deadline though if the team still sucks.

what's larry robinson up to nowadays?
- rangerdanger94

Like Aecliptic said, he's out west. His kids and grand kids live out that way, doubt he would want to come back east.

On wfan today Ron Dugauy said Kreider and some of the other younger players are afraid to make a mistake and are paying to much attention to defense and not just going out and playing offense.

For what that is worth.

Sold on that trade, without question. Like I said earlier, Skinner is more experienced and younger than Kreider and Murphy is a highly skilled right handed defenseman with a lot of offensive potential. Yea, Staal is a good player, but for the people that say Skinner is not a sufficient return, I say you are out of your mind.
Staal at his best is a really good #2; Skinner, at his best, is a really skilled top six forward.

I would love to see this happen.
- MidnightMarauder

I agree. I heard about this rumour recently. Is there any substance behind it? I'd be shocked that Carolina would give up Skinner? Not knocking Staal it just seems Skinner ceiling is much higher?