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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 6 @ 8:31 PM ET
In an interview taped during the intermission Zadorov says he likes to model his game after Pronger/Karlsson.

For those interested.

- ob18


I've been sucking his toe on here for months.

Kid has attitude, and something to work with that not many players have coming into the NHL. Intimidation factor.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 6 @ 8:32 PM ET
Pronger/Karlsson? I model my game after Gretzky/Tocchet
- Jsaquella


Well he's of course going to talk himself up.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 6 @ 8:33 PM ET
Well he's of course going to talk himself up.
- ob18


I'm more taking note of the disparity in style between Pronger and Karlsson than anything.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 6 @ 8:34 PM ET
Pronger/Karlsson? I model my game after Gretzky/Tocchet
- Jsaquella


I was thinking the same thing. If he turns out to be Pronger/Karlsson. That's one hell of a offensive/defensive puck rushing ,scoring, clear the porch defenseman.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 6 @ 8:34 PM ET
I'm more taking note of the disparity in style between Pronger and Karlsson than anything.
- Jsaquella


I don't know he has the game of either with it being his first year in the OHL and his learning this style of game to think he's played like any current NHL player.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 6 @ 8:35 PM ET
I'm more taking note of the disparity in style between Pronger and Karlsson than anything.
- Jsaquella


Ohhh don't overanalyze haha.

He is just saying that he wants to be a mean shutdown guy like Pronger, but have some offensive ability like Karlsson.

Better he set high standards for himself.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 6 @ 8:36 PM ET
In an interview taped during the intermission Zadorov says he likes to model his game after Pronger/Karlsson.

For those interested.

- ob18


Pronger/Karlsson, if he can master that mix then he's gonna be a legend
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 6 @ 8:36 PM ET
Bad thing about Stolarz being a big goalie, shoot fast into his feet. Which just happened and resulted in a power play goal.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 6 @ 8:37 PM ET
Here's how I would view the prospects most talked about on here using Hockey's Future Player Ratings System:


Seth Jones 9.0B
Jonathan Drouin 8.5B
Nathan MacKinnon 8.0A
Aleksander Barkov 8.0B
Valeri Nichushkin 8.5C
Darnell Nurse 8.0C
Rasmus Ristolainen 7.5C
Sean Monahan 7.5B
Ryan Pulock 7.5B
Nikita Zadorov 7.0C
Josh Morrissey 7.0C
Max Domi 7.0B
Robert Hagg 7.0C

- Tomahawk

this is very helpful, thanks
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 6 @ 8:38 PM ET
One other thing to note is I think Dale Hunter has worn the same green tie the entire playoffs.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

May 6 @ 8:39 PM ET
Bad thing about Stolarz being a big goalie, shoot fast into his feet. Which just happened and resulted in a power play goal.
- ob18

His numbers are ballooning to a whooping 2.32 GAA and a weak .932% after starting out so great.

How are you watching these games btw? link?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 6 @ 8:40 PM ET
His numbers are ballooning to a whooping 2.32 GAA and a weak .932% after starting out so great.

How are you watching these games btw? link?

- Yosimar89


His team defense has slipped a bit in combo with him struggling with some shots. I am using Hockey stream (pay site)
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 6 @ 8:40 PM ET
Pronger/Karlsson, if he can master that mix then he's gonna be a legend
- JAKEw1234

Or a one-legged blind man.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 6 @ 8:44 PM ET
I despise the Bruins, but I am getting a perverse pleasure watching them beat on the Leafs.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 6 @ 8:52 PM ET
Or a one-legged blind man.
- hereticpride

Still better than Gervais
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 6 @ 8:56 PM ET
I despise the Bruins, but I am getting a perverse pleasure watching them beat on the Leafs.
- ravishingone


I totally agree.. I hate the Leafs.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

May 6 @ 9:00 PM ET
By the same token if they draft a Forward that's close to NHL ready. That gives them the flexibility to trade a player like a Brayden Schenn for that puck moving defenseman that they desperately need. Flyers need a high minute puck mover. Puck movement from the defense was a huge weakness this past Season. Drafting a forward could in the long run, help them with that issue.
- MJL


I don't think Nishushkin is that close to NHL, especially with the whole "did he sign a KHL deal" saga. But certainly in Monahan is available at 11, it allows them to trade B.Schenn for D help. Although if they were to do that why not just trade the pick for D help instead of Schenn who is already an NHL center. There is no guarantee that Nishushkin or anyone will be able to step in and play those minutes.

And for petes sake the Flyers sat on a couple young kids and let them develop before going through the cycle of being impatient with young players.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 6 @ 9:00 PM ET
After 2

London - 2
Barrie - 3

Stolarz with 17 saves
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 6 @ 9:02 PM ET
I don't think Nishushkin is that close to NHL, especially with the whole "did he sign a KHL deal" saga. But certainly in Monahan is available at 11, it allows them to trade B.Schenn for D help. Although if they were to do that why not just trade the pick for D help instead of Schenn who is already an NHL center. There is no guarantee that Nishushkin or anyone will be able to step in and play those minutes.

And for petes sake the Flyers sat on a couple young kids and let them develop before going through the cycle of being impatient with young players.

- GirouxForTheShow


Trading the pick for the right defenseman is also an option. If a team is willing to trade.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

May 6 @ 9:04 PM ET
Trading the pick for the right defenseman is also an option. If a team is willing to trade.
- MJL


If the right defenseman doesn't drop to 11, and there isn't any stand out forward that has dropped to 11 (i.e. Nishushkin, Monahan) then I think the best move is to trade back a few spots and see what else you can pick up in the swap.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 6 @ 9:13 PM ET
If the right defenseman doesn't drop to 11, and there isn't any stand out forward that has dropped to 11 (i.e. Nishushkin, Monahan) then I think the best move is to trade back a few spots and see what else you can pick up in the swap.
- GirouxForTheShow


No you take one of them unless a team makes an offer you can't refuse.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

May 6 @ 9:17 PM ET
No you take one of them unless a team makes an offer you can't refuse.
- ob18


Take one of whom? Sure the trade would have to be worth it, you don't trade back a few picks just for the sake of making a trade, but if you pick up an early 2nd rounder to moved back 4-5 spots i'd do it.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 6 @ 9:20 PM ET
Take one of whom? Sure the trade would have to be worth it, you don't trade back a few picks just for the sake of making a trade, but if you pick up an early 2nd rounder to moved back 4-5 spots i'd do it.
- GirouxForTheShow


Nishushkin or Monahan if they fell, I don't move back unless it's a solid offer liked with Columbus if they save give up #14 and another of their 1st rounders.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 6 @ 9:23 PM ET
I don't think Nishushkin is that close to NHL, especially with the whole "did he sign a KHL deal" saga. But certainly in Monahan is available at 11, it allows them to trade B.Schenn for D help. Although if they were to do that why not just trade the pick for D help instead of Schenn who is already an NHL center. There is no guarantee that Nishushkin or anyone will be able to step in and play those minutes.

And for petes sake the Flyers sat on a couple young kids and let them develop before going through the cycle of being impatient with young players.

- GirouxForTheShow


The KHL stuff is the Russian media. Whenever there's a Russian media report, you have to really take it with a grain of salt, because there's always some sort of agenda behind it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 6 @ 9:24 PM ET
Take one of whom? Sure the trade would have to be worth it, you don't trade back a few picks just for the sake of making a trade, but if you pick up an early 2nd rounder to moved back 4-5 spots i'd do it.
- GirouxForTheShow


The on team I'd trade with is Columbus. They own the 14th pick and the Rangers and Kings 1st rounders. I'd be willing to move the 11th and 41st picks for 14 and one of the two other firsts that Colunbus holds now.
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