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steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

May 6 @ 9:58 AM ET
Question I have is who do you get to replace Bryz? A 500k backup type and let Mason roll? If so, it may be a mess of Mason struggles.
- Hextall271


Are you kidding me? Did you see Mason in his extensive tryout with the Flyers? Maybe you missed how he handled the puck behind the net? This guy has franchise goalie written all over him. Screw the buyout period. Once the NHL sees how elite Mason is, they'll have to suspend all NHL activities to allow us to buy out Bryz....

But seriously, I agree. You let Bryz and Mason play it out this year and use the buyout next summer, if you reach the conclusion that Mason is the better investment.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 6 @ 9:59 AM ET
In watching the NHL playoffs, the Flyers have as much talent as anyone currently playing in the Eastern Conference.
- johndewar


On paper, sure. Gotta get it translated to the ice, though, because paper doesn't mean squat.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 6 @ 10:01 AM ET
They do, but I think the Caps and Sens would tune them up with the styles they're playing right now.
- jmatchett383


I agree 100%. Even the Isles (except Nabokov) would likely school them.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 6 @ 10:01 AM ET
I wouldn't touch Emery, and it's not because I don't like him. The hip injury robbed him of his former lateral movement and quick recovery ability that he used to have. He's had to re-learn the position and change his style to be more of a positional, let-the-puck-hit-me kind of goalie. That works very well in Chicago. It wouldn't work so well with the way the Flyers play, IMO.
- bmeltzer


Sort of like Bryz, huh?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 6 @ 10:02 AM ET
Maybe. Love the way Ottawa is playing right now.


- johndewar


How can you not? Especially with all they went through during the regular season. They are kicking ass and taking names this series.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 6 @ 10:05 AM ET
On paper, sure. Gotta get it translated to the ice, though, because paper doesn't mean squat.
- Scoob


Agreed. Skating on paper is a disaster.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 6 @ 10:05 AM ET
I'm not rooting for any team in the playoffs, I'm just enjoying the hockey.

That said, I will admit to throwing a hand up and shouting "score!" when Tavares tied the game yesterday. Somehow the playoffs seem a little better with the Isles in it again.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 6 @ 10:05 AM ET
How can you not? Especially with all they went through during the regular season. They are kicking ass and taking names this series.
- Scoob


If any team can use the injury excuse card, it's the Senators.

Spezza, a guy who was a top 5 scorer last year, Anderson, who was one of the top goalies in the NHL when he got hurt, Michalek who was their leading goal scorer when he got dinged and finally, the reigning Norris winner and most dynamic defenseman in the game being lost for the bulk of the year.

If MacLean isn't the Adams winner, it's a joke
sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 6 @ 10:18 AM ET
If any team can use the injury excuse card, it's the Senators.

Spezza, a guy who was a top 5 scorer last year, Anderson, who was one of the top goalies in the NHL when he got hurt, Michalek who was their leading goal scorer when he got dinged and finally, the reigning Norris winner and most dynamic defenseman in the game being lost for the bulk of the year.

If MacLean isn't the Adams winner, it's a joke

- Jsaquella


At the end of the day, the Flyers need a replacement to Timmonen.

Not sure who that guy is, but it needs to be a part of their plan.

Maybe Ghost will be that guy five years from now, or maybe the guy they draft this year will....but they need someone for the short term.

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 6 @ 10:25 AM ET
I'm not rooting for any team in the playoffs, I'm just enjoying the hockey.

That said, I will admit to throwing a hand up and shouting "score!" when Tavares tied the game yesterday. Somehow the playoffs seem a little better with the Isles in it again.

- Scoob


The Islanders are better than a lot of people give them credit for.

Conversely, I don't think Pittsburgh will be coming out of the East this year.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 6 @ 10:28 AM ET
Sort of like Bryz, huh?
- Jsaquella


As a matter of fact, yes. That's exactly how I think Emery would fare in a second tour of duty here.


FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 6 @ 10:30 AM ET
On a side note I'm glad that Ottawa and Montreal decided to amp things up last night since we have no Penguins / Flyers action this time around...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 6 @ 10:38 AM ET
Would it really be the worst thing in the world if just for once the Flyers showed some patience.
Don't trade any of the young forwards, take the best player available at 11 or trade down.
Only trade up, if you can do so without giving up more than a 3rd rounder and perhaps a good but not great prospect like Cousins. If that will get them to Edmonton's #7, I would do the deal.
Sign a stop gap defenseman like Mark Streit to a 2 year deal and go with a D of:
Streit or a similar player-Schenn
Timonen-Coburn
Grossman-Mez or Gus
Hold on to Mezaros for now, if he gets healthy and returns to the lineup next year, his value will go up.

I would still buyout Bryz and Briere, going into the season with ample cap space is not such a bad thing as it will allow the flexibility to deal during the season.

If Lavy commits to playing a toned down, more defensively responsible version of his system, there is no reason that they can't compete for a playoff spot next year. I don't see any way they are a cup contender next year, so why break up a good young nucleus of forwards?

Thoughts?

- BiggE

pretty much agree. clear out the bad contracts, get an acceptable replacement to compete w/ mason and focus on growing this core. i would target 2-3 players at the draft outside the top 3 and see if there is an opp to grab one of them.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
If any team can use the injury excuse card, it's the Senators.

Spezza, a guy who was a top 5 scorer last year, Anderson, who was one of the top goalies in the NHL when he got hurt, Michalek who was their leading goal scorer when he got dinged and finally, the reigning Norris winner and most dynamic defenseman in the game being lost for the bulk of the year.

If MacLean isn't the Adams winner, it's a joke

- Jsaquella


Agreed
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 6 @ 10:42 AM ET
The Islanders are better than a lot of people give them credit for.

- johndewar


Yep. I see them a lot and they are a good young team.

Conversely, I don't think Pittsburgh will be coming out of the East this year.


Agreed. I think Fleury will be their Achilles heel.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

May 6 @ 10:45 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Worlds, Hobey Finalist Signs w/ Phantoms
- Bill_Meltzer


Boosh should retire at this point. He has a family to think about. I'm sure the Flyers could give him a nice job as a scout. Or, he has the face for TV and could do the Flyers pre-game and post-game live shows.

Of course I'm just a fan, what the hell do I know about a players intentions to continue with his livelihood and life's dream.

He's a good guy though and I wish him the best.

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 6 @ 10:49 AM ET
I'm fine with either option on Bryzgalov. If he stays, I have faith he can work with Mason and provide good goaltending. If he's bought out, my hope is that they get a solid guy to be in tandem with Mason, sort of like they did in bringing in Hackett and then Burke to work with Esche.
- Jsaquella


I actually think that Mason is going to be our guy going forward (his technique looks so solid and his confidencce is back..look out) . Especially if Homer acquires a puck mover on D so that everyone else can be slotted in correctly back there. If Mason shows to be solid over the long season, buy Bryz out next summer and sign a UFA tender in the 2014 offseason.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 6 @ 10:50 AM ET
As a matter of fact, yes. That's exactly how I think Emery would fare in a second tour of duty here.
- bmeltzer


Well if that's the case at least Emery won't cost 5.7 million for another 7 years!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 6 @ 10:50 AM ET
Yep. I see them a lot and they are a good young team.



Agreed. I think Fleury will be their Achilles heel.

- Scoob


The goal he let in for the winner in game 2 was horrid. He's completely overrated I think.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 6 @ 10:51 AM ET
I agree, except I wouldn't buyout Bryzgalov.
- MJL


Only reason to buy out bryz this summer is to avoid worrying about him being injured during next years buyout period.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

May 6 @ 10:54 AM ET
I'm not rooting for any team in the playoffs, I'm just enjoying the hockey.

That said, I will admit to throwing a hand up and shouting "score!" when Tavares tied the game yesterday. Somehow the playoffs seem a little better with the Isles in it again.

- Scoob



Agreed, having the Isles back in the playoffs just fits. I'm making them my favorite team for the playoffs this year. I just like the way they play. Harmonic (sp?) I really like.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 6 @ 10:56 AM ET
The goal he let in for the winner in game 2 was horrid. He's completely overrated I think.
- Hextall271


Fleury is quick, but he does seem to be having problems.

I enjoy watching teams push back against the Penguins, who play with an arrogance that makes them utterly hateable.

Montreal plays with that same arrogance, too.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 10:57 AM ET
The goal he let in for the winner in game 2 was horrid. He's completely overrated I think.
- Hextall271


What are you talking about? That goal he scored in Game 2 was a la John LeClair, battling in front of pushing it over the goal line.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 6 @ 10:57 AM ET
Only reason to buy out bryz this summer is to avoid worrying about him being injured during next years buyout period.
- twotoekenn


Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I can vaguely remember reading that it would actually be cheaper if the team bought out Bryz this summer instead of next.

I'm fine with Bryz coming back and working with Mason.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 6 @ 10:58 AM ET
Fleury is quick, but he does seem to be having problems.

I enjoy watching teams push back against the Penguins, who play with an arrogance that makes them utterly hateable.

Montreal plays with that same arrogance, too.

- johndewar


agreed!
I wouldn't mind seeing a St Louis/Ottawa matchup in the finals. With Hitch and MacLean, the post game pressers would be a treat!
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