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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

May 6 @ 11:59 AM ET
They should be nailing Crosby every chance they get. Should be part of their game plan. Been saying it since bfr the series started. Get under his skin you get under the Pens skin.
- Cptmjl


yuppp which is exactly why i said if the isles win theyll need a big series from colin mcdonald...he needs to take out crosby/malkin...while his play has been solid and im definitely not complaining, his physical play has been underwhelming
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 6 @ 11:59 AM ET
There are 8 pages of people whining about a penalty. What else do you want me to say.
- cap1681

Nothing go on you blog
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

May 6 @ 12:00 PM ET
He deserves 5 games, it actually should be the same suspension as leaving the bench during a fight.
- nbartley9



Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 6 @ 12:01 PM ET
yuppp which is exactly why i said if the isles win theyll need a big series from colin mcdonald...he needs to take out crosby/malkin...while his play has been solid and im definitely not complaining, his physical play has been underwhelming
- LetsGoIsles

Martin needs to step it up too. Strait being out against Crosby in OT was yet another gaffe for Capuano. I get rolling all the lines but you have to match up a little better than that. Strait has been underwhelming to me except for in glimpses in game 2.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 6 @ 12:02 PM ET
Call was so bad Milbury and Roenick had no choice. The refs have to understand it's OT and the playoffs. This type of call cheapens a great game. The NHL does not need things like this happening.
- ses111


Milbury and Roenick bash the Penguins every chance they get. The Penguins beat Milbury twice in the ECF and beat Roenick in the SCF. They both would like nothing better than to see the Pens crash and burn.

As far as the refs, a penalty is a penalty. If you call it in the regular season or in regulation, then you should have the balls to call it in OT. There is nothing in the rulebook that says defensemen are not allowed to impede the puck carrier except in OT, when everything goes.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

May 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
They should be nailing Crosby every chance they get. Should be part of their game plan. Been saying it since bfr the series started. Get under his skin you get under the Pens skin.
- Cptmjl


This sounds dirty, because it is, but every time I were playing Crosby on a play, I'd get my glove up against his facemask and push as hard as I could. I'll take a roughing penalty early on to simply get the Pens to overreact. They should be targeting him like crazy. This is where we could actually use a Cooke/Haley/Webb type guy.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

May 6 @ 12:04 PM ET
He was pulled down, as he was going to the net. It was an obvious call. Please stop whining.
- jasonicus



i think you got lost....youre in the isles blog....
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

May 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
Milbury and Roenick bash the Penguins every chance they get. The Penguins beat Milbury twice in the ECF and beat Roenick in the SCF. They both would like nothing better than to see the Pens crash and burn.

As far as the refs, a penalty is a penalty. If you call it in the regular season or in regulation, then you should have the balls to call it in OT. There is nothing in the rulebook that says defensemen are not allowed to impede the puck carrier except in OT, when everything goes.

- Emperor Filonius


There's also nothing that says fighting is allowed in hockey yet the refs will step back and allow two players to go at it because it's simply understood in hockey that it's part of the game. Everyone here has watched enough hockey over the years to know that those type of calls aren't made in overtime typically and when they are it creates controversy. So if they were going to call it, they shouldn't have been watching infractions like Crosby's slash or his trip on McDonald or the hook in OT against Streit etc. That's where the problem starts. You'll never avoid the scrutiny of fans as an official, but it doesn't help if you make a mockery of yourself.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 6 @ 12:10 PM ET
So everybody in here wants to cry about penalties, but no one wants to bring up that the Isles, in a tie game, got a powerplay with a little under 9 minutes left in the 3rd period. The story of this series is the ability of the Pens to score at will on the PP, and the inability of the Isles to score against the 25th ranked pk unit in the league.
- cap1681



very true
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 6 @ 12:13 PM ET
So everybody in here wants to cry about penalties, but no one wants to bring up that the Isles, in a tie game, got a powerplay with a little under 9 minutes left in the 3rd period. The story of this series is the ability of the Pens to score at will on the PP, and the inability of the Isles to score against the 25th ranked pk unit in the league.
- cap1681



Its been said by many of us on here already about our failures on special teams.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
There's also nothing that says fighting is allowed in hockey yet the refs will step back and allow two players to go at it because it's simply understood in hockey that it's part of the game. Everyone here has watched enough hockey over the years to know that those type of calls aren't made in overtime typically and when they are it creates controversy. So if they were going to call it, they shouldn't have been watching infractions like Crosby's slash or his trip on McDonald or the hook in OT against Streit etc. That's where the problem starts. You'll never avoid the scrutiny of fans as an official, but it doesn't help if you make a mockery of yourself.
- keaner17


And then a 5 minute penalty is assessed to each of the fighters...so no, its not "allowed"
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

May 6 @ 12:16 PM ET
You're a (frank)ing sook!

The ref's made bullpoop calls against the Pens that gave you game two. When you lose to the Penguins it's not because of the ref's, it's because they're better than you. The Islander player was hanging off Crosby on a very typical play that draws a penalty on every player in the league, not just the one you want to hate on.

Crosby is the best player in the world and he beat you, suck it up and stop being a poopty, whiney, blogger.

- trolleytracks



Please go somewhere and add something useful to a conversation.....like the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, for example. Thank you.....buh-bye.....
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

May 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
very true
- kindlyrick


Thank you. I'm not in here to troll, just voicing my opinion. I understand Isles fans being upset about a penatly being called in OT, but think it's funny a questionable call with under 10 minutes in the 3rd in a tie game goes unmentioned. Also, the special teams is the difference in this series. You can't win a series against anybody if you're only converting 50% of your penalty kills. Just ask the Penguins about that last year.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
The lack of insight on here is astounding. The Islander defender does not grab Crosby in a meaningful way that should draw a penalty. The reality here is that Strait's right skate makes contact with Crosby's right skate. It is incidental contact. It causes Crosby, who is making a strong move to the net, to go down.

If you called the actual "grab" as penalty, you would have 50 penalties a game.

The additional reality is that whether Crosby trips, dives, gets taken down, or whatever - it is automatically a 2 minute penalty.

Great job refs. Keep up the good work.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

May 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
I am so sick of hearing about the call. Really? Lets face whether Crosby dove or not Strait dragged him down. The Pens went on the power play and scored. We are in the playoffs playing the Pens as hard as we can?? I am extrememly happy with the last couple of games and like JT said they have been down this road before and will come back.

Listen Fleury is really not that great of a goalie we can score against him. We just need to stay out of the box and keep Andrew MAcdonald away from the ice at all cause. I think I was the only one jumping up and down when I thought he got injured the other night

- kasperrko



coming from someone who isnt his biggest fan (bc he isnt big enough) i think he played a VERY good game yesterday...
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

May 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
Penalties in OT should be one minute.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

May 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
And then a 5 minute penalty is assessed to each of the fighters...so no, its not "allowed"
- Emperor Filonius


but they allowed it to carry on when they were perfectly capable of stopping it. That's the point. It's illegal, but they didn't try to prevent it. I'm not making a direct comparision to say that both are the same but simply highlighting that some parts of the game are allowed to happen despite not being to the T on the rulebook.
I've been watching hockey for over 35 years and it's always been the same. When playoffs hit, the game becomes more wild and the refs allow the teams to play. When in playoff OT, you pretty much have to mug a guy to get called. There's a reason why guys like Milbury and JR complained about it and it's not because they hate the Pens, it's because both were players and recognized that a call like that typically goes uncalled.

special_k1074
New York Islanders
Location: Clifton, NJ
Joined: 01.22.2011

May 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
Milbury and Roenick bash the Penguins every chance they get. The Penguins beat Milbury twice in the ECF and beat Roenick in the SCF. They both would like nothing better than to see the Pens crash and burn.

As far as the refs, a penalty is a penalty. If you call it in the regular season or in regulation, then you should have the balls to call it in OT. There is nothing in the rulebook that says defensemen are not allowed to impede the puck carrier except in OT, when everything goes.

- Emperor Filonius



But Pierre's love affair more then makes up for it!!
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

May 6 @ 12:23 PM ET
But Pierre's love affair more then makes up for it!!
- special_k1074

My God he's been awful. I'm so sick of hearing him slobber over the Pens. It's a good thing he stands behind the boards so no one can see what's going on with his bottom half
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 6 @ 12:24 PM ET

- LetsGoIsles


Does it deserve to be addressed? Other than the 2 minutes he got?
special_k1074
New York Islanders
Location: Clifton, NJ
Joined: 01.22.2011

May 6 @ 12:26 PM ET
The lack of insight on here is astounding. The Islander defender does not grab Crosby in a meaningful way that should draw a penalty. The reality here is that Strait's right skate makes contact with Crosby's right skate. It is incidental contact. It causes Crosby, who is making a strong move to the net, to go down.

If you called the actual "grab" as penalty, you would have 50 penalties a game.

The additional reality is that whether Crosby trips, dives, gets taken down, or whatever - it is automatically a 2 minute penalty.

Great job refs. Keep up the good work.

- Daman


And the ref who raised his arm did not have direct line of sight. He was on the other side of the crease with bodies crashing towards the net. He saw crosby go down and assumed that he was dragged down instead of BOTH players battling for position.
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 6 @ 12:26 PM ET
My God he's been awful. I'm so sick of hearing him slobber over the Pens. It's a good thing he stands behind the boards so no one can see what's going on with his bottom half
- keaner17


Where do you fall on the bashing of Milbury and Roenick and the other tool that is there to feed them?
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

May 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
I think the lower end one's can be dealt, but guys like Strome, Nino, Nelson, Reinhart, Mayfield, Nilsson, Pedan and a few others are going to be the foundation of this franchise with JT, Bailey and Okposo (can't believe I said Okposo and Bailey ) for years to come. There's no need to deal them simply because we have a logjam. We've got a few players we'll be more than happy to part with (Aucoin, MacDonald, Boyes etc). So there will be room to keep the pipeline flowing.

I honestly have to say, with what we're seeing from this team and the young stars we have developing in the minors, Garth might have been right saying the rebuild was complete.

- keaner17





although i dont think he believes its complete....youre my boy garth!!!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 6 @ 12:28 PM ET
Milbury and Roenick bash the Penguins every chance they get. The Penguins beat Milbury twice in the ECF and beat Roenick in the SCF. They both would like nothing better than to see the Pens crash and burn.

As far as the refs, a penalty is a penalty. If you call it in the regular season or in regulation, then you should have the balls to call it in OT. There is nothing in the rulebook that says defensemen are not allowed to impede the puck carrier except in OT, when everything goes.

- Emperor Filonius

You are absolutely correct. They shouldve called the blatant spear on grabs moments bfr and the trip on Tavares. Consistency would make the game better overall. Unfortunately there's no consistency.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

May 6 @ 12:29 PM ET
There are 8 pages of people whining about a penalty, on top of your blogger. What else do you want me to say.
- cap1681



dont say anything...just go away...
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