Timing is everything, it should not have been called in overtime. But it was a penalty. The ref should not have called it, there was no blood on the play. - bixll
A penalty in regulation is a penalty in overtime no matter how you slice it or dice it. That call has been made every time since 2005. Should they not have called the delay of games n overtime for the Caps v. Rags? No blood on the play? See how ridiculous your argument is?
Not sure what game you saw, but Tavares has been hit, and slashed every shift. He tied the game to send to OT........he did what your best should do. Call or no call in OT, theres no doubt crosby dove......but hey he got his team a pp. Cant win when you go 0-3 on the PP, when they go 3-5.
For anyone to argue that crosby didnt dive, i say watch it again...... - kindlyrick
The truth is, he doesn't even need to fall for there to be a call.
Strait was NOT making a play on the puck...and he did not check him in a way that was consistent with a legal hit.
How about kill the off the penalty? If they thought it was a dive, they should have been even more motivated to kill it off for Nabby. How about deliberately stabbing Cooke in a vicious and obvious manor in the face with your stick and Cooke going to the box? That's what we should be talking about, that will be looked at. I would give him 5 games for that, no place in hockey for that garbage.
I was at the game yesterday and even though we lost, it was a great experience. Anyone saying that there aren't Isles fans with passion should watch yesterday's game. It was electric.
As for the penalty. I'm actually one who wants penalties called on OT like in regulation. I hate when games go 3-4 OTs because usually nothing is happening. What I do have a problem with are many non calls during the game. I think the lens got what 6 pps to our 1? In our own barn?
Back to the last penalty, even the NBC commentators were saying Crosby dove, which I think he did. That is a wussy move and you wouldn't see Gretzky, Orr, Hull or even Mario pull that crap. Having said that, congrats to the pens. Fluery looks very shakey but so does Nabby. Game 4 is where the series will be won. - clebo99
I was there as well and I agree the atmosphere was insane. I didn't think it could get any louder after it was 2-0. Then JT tied it at 4 and the place was shaking!! Bottom line is the Islanders special teams is the reason they are down 2-1 not the refs. They gotta come out tomorrow night the same way and stay out of the box and they will be going back to Pitt 2-2. I didn't even read the blog I can only imagine what that facking hack wrote
Poor call, nope. That call is made 11 times out of 10. It was a penalty. Sid helped sell it. I have a rough time thinking the reaction of Islander fans if that were Tavaras with the puck in a similar situation. They would be crying bloody murder for a penalty. Tavaras gets that call as well. Anyone who says otherwise needs a reality check. - Oneonta Penguin
Tavares was held up coming down the wing.......complete interference, but he stayed on his feet......absolutely should have been called, but wasnt. Crosby is one of the strongest skaters on the puck....he fell to his butt.....if he was "pulled down from behind", his head woulda snapped back. Either way, game is over.....the series is not. Game 4 tues night......hopefully isles pp is better
Poor call, nope. That call is made 11 times out of 10. It was a penalty. Sid helped sell it. I have a rough time thinking the reaction of Islander fans if that were Tavaras with the puck in a similar situation. They would be crying bloody murder for a penalty. Tavaras gets that call as well. Anyone who says otherwise needs a reality check. - Oneonta Penguin
Tavares was held up coming down the wing.......complete interference, but he stayed on his feet......absolutely should have been called, but wasnt. Crosby is one of the strongest skaters on the puck....he fell to his butt.....if he was "pulled down from behind", his head woulda snapped back. Either way, game is over.....the series is not. Game 4 tues night......hopefully isles pp is better
I was there as well and I agree the atmosphere was insane. I didn't think it could get any louder after it was 2-0. Then JT tied it at 4 and the place was shaking!! Bottom line is the Islanders special teams is the reason they are down 2-1 not the refs. They gotta come out tomorrow night the same way and stay out of the box and they will be going back to Pitt 2-2. I didn't even read the blog I can only imagine what that facking hack wrote - Vukota
I have to say...I was envious of the crowd noise...
That's a great showing by a proud group of hockey fans.
I was there as well and I agree the atmosphere was insane. I didn't think it could get any louder after it was 2-0. Then JT tied it at 4 and the place was shaking!! Bottom line is the Islanders special teams is the reason they are down 2-1 not the refs. They gotta come out tomorrow night the same way and stay out of the box and they will be going back to Pitt 2-2. I didn't even read the blog I can only imagine what that facking hack wrote - Vukota
Yea. THe PK was brutal. I was sitting behind the goal in the 2nd and there were just some plays that looked very obvious to me that they were penalties on the Pens. But, it was a great game and if we win in Tuesday, it will be forgotten.
I have to say...I was envious of the crowd noise...
That's a great showing by a proud group of hockey fans.
You gotta love that if you are a fan of the game. - icedog97
I was in the parking lot by 8am and by 9:30 the lot was packed it was a great scene. Unfortunately on my way out after the game some drunk idiot Islander fan poured a beer over the head of a guy in the penguins jersey and was screaming at him. A couple of Islander fans got all over the idiot for pouring the beer. I was hoping somebody dropped the guy
Tavares was held up coming down the wing.......complete interference, but he stayed on his feet......absolutely should have been called, but wasnt. Crosby is one of the strongest skaters on the puck....he fell to his butt.....if he was "pulled down from behind", his head woulda snapped back. Either way, game is over.....the series is not. Game 4 tues night......hopefully isles pp is better - kindlyrick
I don't know...I would never argue he didn't fall on purpose because only he knows if he did...
But I do know that sometimes you only need to be a little bit off balance to have a certain force in the right spot knock you down.
All things considered...I still find it hard to believe Crosby would have bailed 10 feet from the net..but maybe he did...
I was in the parking lot by 8am and by 9:30 the lot was packed it was a great scene. Unfortunately on my way out after the game some drunk idiot Islander fan poured a beer over the head of a guy in the penguins jersey and was screaming at him. A couple of Islander fans got all over the idiot for pouring the beer. I was hoping somebody dropped the guy - Vukota
1st of all, Crosby is an elite player, wouldn't mind him on my team, but he's not..
So anybody playing my team, I wish no luck, and don't care .....
1 thing for sure is Ovie is a stand up guy who checks and gets checked without whining to refs, that's a fact.. We all know Cindy is the poster boy for the NHL, but let the players play and not let calls dictate overtime.
2 thing is the Isles have completely out-played Pens in games 2 & 3, but fail to convert on PP's which is the diff up being up instead of down.
3 Our D needs to literally knock every Pen off the puck, and some one needs to pull a Kasperitis hip-check to Cindy, so maybe he understands we mean business....This is the playoffs, and Cindy is no exception....
4 Do not care if any Pens get hurt, injured, or cry, because this is Islander country.......If they advance, wish them the best of luck, but not against my team!!!!!!!
i got there yesterday at 8:30 and the place was electric. i had a blast it was simply amazing. i think the frustrating thing about Crosby is for his size, pound for pound he is impossible to knock of the puck...impossible... i don't know if he dived but he did "sell" the call and it worked. but its up to the isles to kill the pk. its not the last time he is going to draw a call.. it sucks the final score but i can't knock the effort in which the boys are playing with. i love this team..i love the way they fight for each other. there are some talking points for after the season but not for right now
NBC's job...especially post game...is to TALK. They purposefully create controversy. We KNOW this. Look at the ProHockeyTalk site...always stirring the pot...run by NBC Sports.
Honestly...this is good for the sport...even if it's against your team...because it's publicity (that's the way the world works today).
Here's the banter form NBC post game and the video. The thing they fail to acknowledge, is that Strait's right knee comes into contact with Crosby from behind...and if you watch this, you will see that Crosby loses his balance when that happens. That simultaneous pull from the top and push from the bottom would be enough to knock him off balance. His right leg is pushing Crosby forward from below while his right arm is pulling Crosby back from the top.
Again...no idea if he went down easier than he could have...but the evidence is a little less convincing of a dive than I think NBC would like you to believe.
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May 6 @ 9:08 AM ET
The truth is, he doesn't even need to fall for there to be a call.
Strait was NOT making a play on the puck...and he did not check him in a way that was consistent with a legal hit.
He reached out and grabbed him.
Whether or not Crosby fell is irrelevant really. - icedog97
Which is exactly what happened to Streit at the other end just before...In addition Crosby got away with a blatant trip directly in front of the ref that led to the Pens fourth goal.
We can't necessarily blame the loss on the refs because the Isles PP has to cash in, but it is funny how the annomally of penalties seem to benefit Crosby more than any player before him.
Streit definitely got his hands up and I think it's a call they make during the regular season, though fans would still feel it was ticky tac, but there's no way a call like that is typically made in overtime, especially considering the ref didn't even raise his hand until after the play was over. I'd go as far as to say that if any other Pen or Islander was carrying the puck, that call doesn't get made.
In addition, I have no question in my mind that Crosby gave up the play to take the penalty. The way he through his left arm up as he went down was laughable. It's Brian Strait, not the Big Show.
The blame doesn't fall on Crosby here, he did exactly what he had to do. The blame goes to the officials who pocketed their whistles for several should-have-been calls but then suddenly decided it was time to make a difference.
1st of all, Crosby is an elite player, wouldn't mind him on my team, but he's not..
So anybody playing my team, I wish no luck, and don't care .....
1 thing for sure is Ovie is a stand up guy who checks and gets checked without whining to refs, that's a fact.. We all know Cindy is the poster boy for the NHL, but let the players play and not let calls dictate overtime.
2 thing is the Isles have completely out-played Pens in games 2 & 3, but fail to convert on PP's which is the diff up being up instead of down.
3 Our D needs to literally knock every Pen off the puck, and some one needs to pull a Kasperitis hip-check to Cindy, so maybe he understands we mean business....This is the playoffs, and Cindy is no exception....
4 Do not care if any Pens get hurt, injured, or cry, because this is Islander country.......If they advance, wish them the best of luck, but not against my team!!!!!!! - Ur Not Me
When the Isles are shorthanded they are not attacking they sit back and let the pens set up so easily. I know they are stacked but sitting back is clearly not working so maybe they should try putting pressure on them. It can't get any worse
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May 6 @ 9:08 AM ET
You managed to get whining about the refs and complaining about moving to Brooklyn into the same blog. Kudos. Its going to be a long, painful day in here. - PeteM
Yeah, she just kind of put a *kick me* sign on your blog.
Want some cheese with that whine Dee???? I think everyone could understand the reaction of an average Islander fan in the moments after yesterday's game, but this is really wearing thin.
I'm going to sum this up: Suck it up, and shut your pie holes already.
Maybe if the Islanders would consider actually trying to kill a PP, they wouldn't have lost the game.
Some history: In game 2 in the Wales Conference finals in 91, the Boston Bruins were awarded a TWO MAN ADVANTAGE against the Penguins IN OVERTIME.
(Funny how I didn't see Mike Milbury, who was behind the bench for the Bruins complaining about *those* calls)
The Bruins Vladimir Ruzizcka (sp?) subsequently scored and led the series 2-0. Needless to say, as Pens fans, were were a bit annoyed.
But the Pens responded not by whining, but by putting it behind them and won the next four games in a row. There was a lesson in that which I took away as a fan....move on.
Want to prove you are worthy Islanders (and fans)? Take a look in the mirror and admit your special teams were not up to snuff and that your goaltending was lousy. That's why you lost.
Losers blame the officials and let it take away from the magnificent effort that the Islanders put forth yesterday. Winners don't put themselves in a position where the officals can make a call that impacts the outcome of the game.
Bad call imo...but not the first one in this series and both teams have come up on the short end of the reffing at times. Sucks that it came in OT, but you know what...kill the damn penalty and we're not talking about the call today. Every team in every series has to deal with the same NHL officiating issues and no team can control that, but they can control what happens immediately afterward...PK has to be as good as it was early in the season, and for God's sake, Nabby has to make a damn save with his glove once in a while...he cheats and shows shooters that side of the net, but when they shoot there it looks like it surprises the heck out of him. Think Pitt hit two crossbars on that side in addition to all the goals they scored there.
13 goals against in 3 games...the refs haven't allowed those goals; the Isles have. They look great through the neutral zone and on the forecheck, but they gotta tighten it up big time on D and especially right in front of their own net.
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May 6 @ 9:10 AM ET
I was in the parking lot by 8am and by 9:30 the lot was packed it was a great scene. Unfortunately on my way out after the game some drunk idiot Islander fan poured a beer over the head of a guy in the penguins jersey and was screaming at him. A couple of Islander fans got all over the idiot for pouring the beer. I was hoping somebody dropped the guy - Vukota
Judging by at least one article I saw, some Pens fans were so drunk they had to be escorted out. Idiots in every fan base. Great atmosphere in that building yesterday. Kudos.
