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deadsector
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sherwood park, AB
Joined: 01.08.2013

May 5 @ 9:36 PM ET
as much contempt as I have for Crosby, that was a foul. Streit has to know who that is, and that he's absolutely going to get whistled for that.
- sfischer


If we're calling things just because it's crosby we've got problems.Still it's a trip in my mind also. Though if i'm watching it as a ref, not sure if i make that call so what if it's crosby he's crashing the net played at full speed the first time i watched it i thought he just whent over because streits trying to force him off the puck and i'd have let it go as a clean play. Watching it a second and third time it does seem that streit might have clipped the back skate a bit.
Boltdolt84
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 11.05.2012

May 5 @ 9:56 PM ET
I thought this game was a pretty sadly officiated mess. im not a fan of either team, but that Letang elbow into MacDonalds head was a pretty blatantly missed call. along with crosbys fall which lead to the GW
gravyboy33
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: parts unknown
Joined: 05.11.2008

May 5 @ 9:58 PM ET
I thought this game was a pretty sadly officiated mess. im not a fan of either team, but that Letang elbow into MacDonalds head was a pretty blatantly missed call. along with crosbys fall which lead to the GW
- Boltdolt84

really? mac was falling into letang during that play you have to keep your head up
Boltdolt84
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 11.05.2012

May 5 @ 10:12 PM ET
really? mac was falling into letang during that play you have to keep your head up
- gravyboy33


I agree somewhat, but he definitely drove through with the elbow. I rewinded and watched that hit so many times
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 5 @ 11:44 PM ET
I wonder what will happen when the Habs play the Pens? Tough decisions for the refs...
- Flyfreaky


doesn't seem to be any worry of that
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 6 @ 12:03 AM ET
If we're calling things just because it's crosby we've got problems.Still it's a trip in my mind also. Though if i'm watching it as a ref, not sure if i make that call so what if it's crosby he's crashing the net played at full speed the first time i watched it i thought he just whent over because streits trying to force him off the puck and i'd have let it go as a clean play. Watching it a second and third time it does seem that streit might have clipped the back skate a bit.
- deadsector


the Penalty isn't a trip, it's holding. He grabs him up high with both arms. And that's what the refs called too.

Only reason it's being debated at all is because it's Crosby.

That's a penalty.
Moshe52792
New York Rangers
Location: Manalapan, NJ
Joined: 06.30.2009

May 6 @ 12:17 AM ET
It's not like the Rangers would have scored on the powerplay anyway

And for those wondering, the reason McDonagh was on the ice for 3 mins was because Torts doesn't trust any defensemen other than him and Girardi against top guys.

And I don't blame him :/ Come back soon Staal.

Also, I love how someone as strong as Crosby can fall so easily.
gravyboy33
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: parts unknown
Joined: 05.11.2008

May 6 @ 12:50 AM ET
the Penalty isn't a trip, it's holding. He grabs him up high with both arms. And that's what the refs called too.

Only reason it's being debated at all is because it's Crosby.

That's a penalty.

- Big_Lightnin

agreed, if the same thing happens to JT and isnt called all the whiners would be whining even more than they are. haters gonna hate whiners gonna whine
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

May 6 @ 3:07 AM ET
Not sure who this video is supposed to incriminate, the guy for going down easy or the guy who loses position and is draped over the front of the guy with both hands and stick and the slough foot from behind.
- ruttager17



I'm not normally one to complain about the officiating, but this time, I'm going to make an exception. I'm still trying to figure out what the he11 Hamonic did to earn that second penalty in the first period . Also, as for the game winning goal, you DO NOT call THAT penalty in the overtime, period, especially when there was actual holding at the other end of the ice not a minute before that. Those are my two examples, but here's the larger point:

The NHL is a low rent piece of cr*p, and it always has been. The NFL referees f**k up, but that's because they're old men chasing young men around a football field. The NFL is a billionaires club that has more license to print money than the US government. It doesn't matter if the Bengals play the Cardinals in the Super Bowl, everyone watches it.

The NHL in the US, in contrast, needs to do everything it can to drum up ratings. It has an internal and an external pecking order, both of which are obvious to a person who has watched the sport for 40 years, as I have. The internal pecking order is the original six, and the external pecking order includes any team that has a guy who the TV networks consider to be a superstar, on what is clearly a good team. Two or three years from now, because we have Tavares, if we make the right free agent moves and most of our youngsters develop into very good NHL players, just as if by magic, we will start getting those lame-a$$ed calls in the overtime....and I will be equally as unhappy seeing that as I was seeing what I saw yesterday.

dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

May 6 @ 3:11 AM ET
agreed, if the same thing happens to JT and isnt called all the whiners would be whining even more than they are. haters gonna hate whiners gonna whine
- gravyboy33



Here's the problem- the same thing happened at the other end of the ice, not a minute before- and it was actual holding, not jockeying for position. The penalty on Hamonic was also cr*p. I don't usually complain about the officiating, but the incompetence of those two referees was at a different level. It's not so much the calls- it's what they didn't call that bothers me. Same exact thing happens at both ends of the ice- one is a penalty and one is not. I'd rather they just let the boys play like they used to, ESPECIALLY in the OT.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

May 6 @ 3:42 AM ET
I thought this game was a pretty sadly officiated mess. im not a fan of either team, but that Letang elbow into MacDonalds head was a pretty blatantly missed call. along with crosbys fall which lead to the GW
- Boltdolt84


Along with one of the Islanders being held up along the boards at the other end, the shift before the one where Crosby drew the penalty on Strait. All I'm saying is- call everything, or call nothing. It's amazing how these jacka**es can see a puck going over the glass with an eagle eye from 50 feet away, but they won't call an elbowing penalty when they're standing right in front of the infraction.


PS- That's the REAL problem with the delay of game penalty. It's the only one that gets called EVERY TIME. What's so special about that one?
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

May 6 @ 7:33 AM ET
agreed, if the same thing happens to JT and isnt called all the whiners would be whining even more than they are. haters gonna hate whiners gonna whine
- gravyboy33

That's easy for a Pen's fan to say when you have the refs in your back pocket every game...
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

May 6 @ 9:18 AM ET
I wonder what will happen when the Habs play the Pens? Tough decisions for the refs...
- Flyfreaky


Lots and lots and lots of crying about and for penalties.
UBBob713
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Pegulaville, NY
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 6 @ 10:06 AM ET
not if they make it like icing.
- Big_Lightnin


On board with this... icing is essentially a delay of game as well... consider the "punishment for the crime"... 2min for charging, kneeing, elbowing, boarding... and flipping the puck out of play?

Only real reason I can think to keep it a penalty is that they are worried about fan safety and an excessive amount of pucks flying into the crowd.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 6 @ 10:08 AM ET
Good blog EK. Maybe the NFL shouldn't penalize teams for putting the ball out of bounds on kickoffs either...
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 6 @ 10:52 AM ET
I thought this game was a pretty sadly officiated mess. im not a fan of either team, but that Letang elbow into MacDonalds head was a pretty blatantly missed call. along with crosbys fall which lead to the GW
- Boltdolt84


Yup. It was a headshot, no bones about it, and was a penalty.
Leafsfan9329
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Largo, FL
Joined: 07.28.2010

May 6 @ 11:01 AM ET


Until it costs the Leafs a game leave it alone, I mean it only cost the Rangers a game so no one should really care in the first place.
AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

May 6 @ 11:13 AM ET
Gallagher, Huberdeau, and Saad named Calder Trophy Finalists.
pens_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.11.2009

May 6 @ 11:35 AM ET
Yup. It was a headshot, no bones about it, and was a penalty.
- wolfhounds


looked to me like mcdonald fell down to one knee just before the hit happened resulting in mcdonalds head being where his chest was a split second before. letang was already initiating the hit before he went down though so i feel its hardly letangs fault.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 6 @ 11:41 AM ET
looked to me like mcdonald fell down to one knee just before the hit happened resulting in mcdonalds head being where his chest was a split second before. letang was already initiating the hit before he went down though so i feel its hardly letangs fault.
- pens_66


Agreed. I'd never argue Letang did it on purpose. But it was a headshot. Most high-stick infractions are accidents, and they are penalties.

Ultimately, I see this as more of a consistency thing within the NHL.
pens_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.11.2009

May 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
Agreed. I'd never argue Letang did it on purpose. But it was a headshot. Most high-stick infractions are accidents, and they are penalties.

Ultimately, I see this as more of a consistency thing within the NHL.

- wolfhounds


i agree it did end up being a headshot but i dont really know where the ruling should be. its tough to discipline someone that delivered hit against an player who makes himself vulnerable at the last second before impact. it just seemed like a fluke play with mcdonald losing his balance right before the hit.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

May 6 @ 11:52 AM ET
Gallagher, Huberdeau, and Saad named Calder Trophy Finalists.
- AGalchenyuk27



He has played really well this year. Way above what I was expecting. Figured Galchenyuk would have been there instead.
AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

May 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
He has played really well this year. Way above what I was expecting. Figured Galchenyuk would have been there instead.
- glove_was_stuck

Yes me too - nice surprise.
pens_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.11.2009

May 6 @ 11:56 AM ET
Agreed. I'd never argue Letang did it on purpose. But it was a headshot. Most high-stick infractions are accidents, and they are penalties.

Ultimately, I see this as more of a consistency thing within the NHL.

- wolfhounds


in regards to the consistency, i would hope the nhl doesnt call this because its likely of no ones fault. im sure mcdonald didnt want to fall down to his knees and get hit in the head and likewise letang had no idea that would happen so there was no intention. there could be a gray area though where it's difficult to judge if the hitting player had enough time to see the player is in vulnerable position. with this hit i think its quite clear that letang had no time to realize mcdonald had become vulnerable and 90% of the time this hit is made in the corner with no problems.
Robinson Crusoe
Boston Bruins
Location: North Sydney, NS
Joined: 02.09.2009

May 6 @ 11:59 AM ET
Why not just have the over the glass equate to an icing call. Face-off in your end with no change.
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